Transplant, or not to transplant?

Cover&Duck · #1 (**permalink**) 07-20-2009, 06:21 AM

My girls are on day 7 of flowering as of right now, and I transplanted them from 1gal to 3gal a week and a half ago. Now when I lifted the pots up just a minute ago, you can see roots from the bottom drainage holes of the pots. Im unaware if its safe to transplant during flowering?

If so, its no problem I can put them in 5gal but obviously transplanting them would stunt growth for atleast a day or maybe two. However, leaving them in and letting them get rootbound, (was close last time) seems a lot worse. Any input on this matter would be appreciated.

P.S. The plants look very happy as of right now, which is why I am asking if I should transplant...

Setup: 400w HPS, Light on: 75deg/50%RH Light off: 68-70deg/55-60%RH
FF Tiger Bloom, FF Bloom Boost, FF Grow Big (obv)
Plants are in 3gal pots

Cover&Duck · #2 (**permalink**) 07-20-2009, 04:02 PM

Any input?

ironlung253 · #3 (**permalink**) 07-20-2009, 04:35 PM

What size pots? How long did the plants veg for? If you want to do something like that after flowering has started it is probably a better idea to double pot it. Cut the bottom out of the pot. fill another the same size with dirt and stack the original pot on top. It would be a good idea to seal any light that may get through between the two. That will also keep them together. You don't want to run into any problems at this stage.

Cover&Duck · #4 (**permalink**) 07-20-2009, 04:50 PM

They are currently in 3 gal pots, and if I cut only the bottom out, wouldnt the roots try to grow through the sides and basically through the plastic of the pot?

ironlung253 · #5 (**permalink**) 07-20-2009, 04:56 PM

How big are the plants? You know the strain? A three gallon container should be fine for a decent sized plant. Cutting the bottom of the container out and setting it on top of new soil will encourage the roots to grow deeper. The bigger your root system, the bigger and faster your plant will grow.

Cover&Duck · #6 (**permalink**) 07-20-2009, 09:28 PM

The plants are around 2 and 1/4ft tall..sorry I can't be more specific the lights are off currently. Im currently growing Cheese (from GHSCo), Nigerian x Afghan (from Afropips), and California Hash Plant (from Attitude?). The plants were vegged for 31 days and were around 17.5" going into flowering.

ironlung253 · #7 (**permalink**) 07-20-2009, 10:29 PM

If they look healthy they should be fine. A little bit of roots growing out the bottom isnt a big deal. Also, if you can, two transplants through the plants life is ideal. The first pot you put the seedling/clone in, and the final pot the plant will finish in.

Cover&Duck · #8 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 04:19 PM

Sorry about the delay my fucking power company allowed my power to go out for a good 2-3 hours, so the lights went off 4 or so hours early. This shouldn't cause my plants to hermie should it? And also, it's 10:16am EST right now, lights are supposed to go off at 12:00pm EST. Would it be beter to just leave them in the dark, or turn the light back on for 1hr45min and then turn it off again at noon? Im assuming it would be better just to leave the light off until midnight when it comes back on..

P.S. The plants started off in 1gal containers(seed-veg), which is what slightly threw the whole transplanting process off.

ironlung253 · #9 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 04:22 PM

They should be fine with the little extra time of darkness. Yeah the first transplant you want to be big enough for the roots to spread and the plant to grow, but small enough that you will get a decent rootball, making the transplant a whole lot easier.

"You got to be dumb as hell to get fired on yo day off!"

Cover&Duck · #10 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 05:02 PM

Haha aight, well thats a relief, I chose not to turn the light back on obviously, as it will come back on at midnight

. I really appreciate your help throughout this transplanting issue, thank you. +Rep and + Rep for the friday quote

ironlung253 · #11 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 05:13 PM

Hey no prob man, friend request? I can't say I know EVERYTHING about the holy herb, but I should be able to help with most soil problems. I don't do hydro, too much shit to worry bout. I have a journal, check it out sometime

Cover&Duck · #12 (**permalink**) 07-21-2009, 05:15 PM

Aight will do man, yeah hit me up w/ a friend request or sumthin....Im high as fuck right now so...you should probably handle it lol...

P.S. Ill post pics of the girls when I turn the lights on tonight.

Cover&Duck · #13 (**permalink**) 07-22-2009, 06:34 AM

Turned the light back on, the girls are looking good, although they are getting very big fast, and Im going cut out the bottom and add another 3 inches or so of soil on the bottom of each one by putting them in identical 3 gal containers, (like mentioned above). The cheese is 26", nigerian x afghan 23", cali hash plant 21". Day 9 of flowering.

Cover&Duck · #14 (**permalink**) 07-22-2009, 09:18 PM

After cutting the bottoms of the current pots out, I placed them in identical 3gal pots with an additional 3 1/2"-4" of FFHF soil and watered. I sealed the pots together with a sturdy reflective tape, so the roots should be in a completely dark environment. I don't have pics with the updated transplant but I will tomorrow. Day 9 of 12/12
Enjoy

Nigerian x Afghan:

Cheese:

CHP:

Girls:

ironlung253 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-22-2009, 10:52 PM

Hey how big is your grow space? You should see a lot of new growth soon here. Also when do you plan to flower? That plant will double it's size by the time it's done flowering. Just be aware of your space, if you run out you would have options.

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#1 (permalink) 07-20-2009, 06:21 AM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Transplant, or not to transplant? My girls are on day 7 of flowering as of right now, and I transplanted them from 1gal to 3gal a week and a half ago. Now when I lifted the pots up just a minute ago, you can see roots from the bottom drainage holes of the pots. Im unaware if its safe to transplant during flowering?If so, its no problem I can put them in 5gal but obviously transplanting them would stunt growth for atleast a day or maybe two. However, leaving them in and letting them get rootbound, (was close last time) seems a lot worse. Any input on this matter would be appreciated. P.S. The plants look very happy as of right now, which is why I am asking if I should transplant... Setup: 400w HPS, Light on: 75deg/50%RH Light off: 68-70deg/55-60%RH FF Tiger Bloom, FF Bloom Boost, FF Grow Big (obv) Plants are in 3gal pots __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant Last edited by Cover&Duck; 07-20-2009 at 06:24 AM.

#2 (permalink) 07-20-2009, 04:02 PM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? Any input? __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant

#3 (permalink) 07-20-2009, 04:35 PM
ironlung253 "Heavy as Lead" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: who wants to know? Posts: 1,073	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? What size pots? How long did the plants veg for? If you want to do something like that after flowering has started it is probably a better idea to double pot it. Cut the bottom out of the pot. fill another the same size with dirt and stack the original pot on top. It would be a good idea to seal any light that may get through between the two. That will also keep them together. You don't want to run into any problems at this stage.

#4 (permalink) 07-20-2009, 04:50 PM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? They are currently in 3 gal pots, and if I cut only the bottom out, wouldnt the roots try to grow through the sides and basically through the plastic of the pot? __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant

#5 (permalink) 07-20-2009, 04:56 PM
ironlung253 "Heavy as Lead" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: who wants to know? Posts: 1,073	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? How big are the plants? You know the strain? A three gallon container should be fine for a decent sized plant. Cutting the bottom of the container out and setting it on top of new soil will encourage the roots to grow deeper. The bigger your root system, the bigger and faster your plant will grow.

#6 (permalink) 07-20-2009, 09:28 PM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? The plants are around 2 and 1/4ft tall..sorry I can't be more specific the lights are off currently. Im currently growing Cheese (from GHSCo), Nigerian x Afghan (from Afropips), and California Hash Plant (from Attitude?). The plants were vegged for 31 days and were around 17.5" going into flowering. __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant

#7 (permalink) 07-20-2009, 10:29 PM
ironlung253 "Heavy as Lead" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: who wants to know? Posts: 1,073	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? If they look healthy they should be fine. A little bit of roots growing out the bottom isnt a big deal. Also, if you can, two transplants through the plants life is ideal. The first pot you put the seedling/clone in, and the final pot the plant will finish in.

#8 (permalink) 07-21-2009, 04:19 PM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? Sorry about the delay my fucking power company allowed my power to go out for a good 2-3 hours, so the lights went off 4 or so hours early. This shouldn't cause my plants to hermie should it? And also, it's 10:16am EST right now, lights are supposed to go off at 12:00pm EST. Would it be beter to just leave them in the dark, or turn the light back on for 1hr45min and then turn it off again at noon? Im assuming it would be better just to leave the light off until midnight when it comes back on.. P.S. The plants started off in 1gal containers(seed-veg), which is what slightly threw the whole transplanting process off. __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant

#9 (permalink) 07-21-2009, 04:22 PM
ironlung253 "Heavy as Lead" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: who wants to know? Posts: 1,073	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? They should be fine with the little extra time of darkness. Yeah the first transplant you want to be big enough for the roots to spread and the plant to grow, but small enough that you will get a decent rootball, making the transplant a whole lot easier. "You got to be dumb as hell to get fired on yo day off!"

#10 (permalink) 07-21-2009, 05:02 PM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? Haha aight, well thats a relief, I chose not to turn the light back on obviously, as it will come back on at midnight. I really appreciate your help throughout this transplanting issue, thank you. +Rep and + Rep for the friday quote __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant

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#11 (permalink) 07-21-2009, 05:13 PM
ironlung253 "Heavy as Lead" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: who wants to know? Posts: 1,073	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? Hey no prob man, friend request? I can't say I know EVERYTHING about the holy herb, but I should be able to help with most soil problems. I don't do hydro, too much shit to worry bout. I have a journal, check it out sometime

#12 (permalink) 07-21-2009, 05:15 PM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? Aight will do man, yeah hit me up w/ a friend request or sumthin....Im high as fuck right now so...you should probably handle it lol... P.S. Ill post pics of the girls when I turn the lights on tonight. __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant Last edited by Cover&Duck; 07-21-2009 at 05:18 PM.

#13 (permalink) 07-22-2009, 06:34 AM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? Turned the light back on, the girls are looking good, although they are getting very big fast, and Im going cut out the bottom and add another 3 inches or so of soil on the bottom of each one by putting them in identical 3 gal containers, (like mentioned above). The cheese is 26", nigerian x afghan 23", cali hash plant 21". Day 9 of flowering. __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant

#14 (permalink) 07-22-2009, 09:18 PM
Cover&Duck Blazed and Confused... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: A green place somewhere in the O state. Posts: 466	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? After cutting the bottoms of the current pots out, I placed them in identical 3gal pots with an additional 3 1/2"-4" of FFHF soil and watered. I sealed the pots together with a sturdy reflective tape, so the roots should be in a completely dark environment. I don't have pics with the updated transplant but I will tomorrow. Day 9 of 12/12 Enjoy Nigerian x Afghan: Cheese: CHP: Girls: __________________ 2nd Grow 09': 600w MH/HPS Burmese Kush / Kushberry / Moby Dick / Cheese First Grow 09' 400w HPS 100% Organic: Nigerian x Afghan / Cheese / California Hash Plant

#15 (permalink) 07-22-2009, 10:52 PM
ironlung253 "Heavy as Lead" Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: who wants to know? Posts: 1,073	Re: Transplant, or not to transplant? Hey how big is your grow space? You should see a lot of new growth soon here. Also when do you plan to flower? That plant will double it's size by the time it's done flowering. Just be aware of your space, if you run out you would have options.