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Old 04-01-2009, 04:50 AM
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Bright green leaf margins and older leaves dying, what gives?

Heres my first grow

Bagseed ~58 days into veg
day 1 -- started in cup of MG
about day 18 -- moved to 0.7 gal of soil from garden
--tried using MG nutes (the ones designed to be attached to garden hose) and burnt her a bit
about day 39 -- moved to 5 gal of MG Organic Choice (for outdoors)
--no added nutrients since

Sloppy watering throughout history of plant ~ overwatering and underwatering at times

I don't have a ph meter or rel. humid meter so I can't provide this info. The water has either been straight from the tap, from a refrigerator water filter or tap water that has sat out to let the chlorine dissipate.

started under 158 watts CFL (8800 lumens)
--went from 18/6 to 24/0
moved to 216 watts CFL (12800 lumens) after transplant into 5 gal
--so far, constant 24/0

Can anyone help me identify whats going on here?

These are all pics of the same plant.




Twisted leaf




Leaves have been yellowing from the tip and dying off for the entire life of this plant. This is the problem that concerns me the most.




Closeup of brown spots. Calcium def maybe?
 
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Old 04-01-2009, 07:26 AM
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Re: Bright green leaf margins and older leaves dying, what gives?

Looks like nute burn. Flush them out with clean Ph adjusted water and let them dry out for a few days. Then you can start adding nutes back at 1/3 strength. SHould see a change in the plant within 7-10 days.
 
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Re: Bright green leaf margins and older leaves dying, what gives?

its magnesium defienciency.

i'd guess that the little nute burn in your last pic is not a recent occurance? ie its when you burned them when trying MG nutes, yeh?

because that is a typical MG defienciency.
i'd just get some good flowering nutes, which youll need anyway. make sure the nutes have a ratio of 1-10-10 or so, and have lots of trace elements. thatll probably clear it up. otherwise, look up something for MG def. it cant be hard to find.

you only needed to click on the first link in this sick plants forum, to find your answer.
"plant abuse chart"
and click on first link.

and it shows a load of different leaves with difference deficiencies and one is identical to yours.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...8&page=1&pp=15
mg def
 
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Re: Bright green leaf margins and older leaves dying, what gives?

yea slanesh is right defo signs of nutes burn on the leaves dont use MG nutes it will hurt your plant plants babybio or tomatoerite or if you can afford them canna nutes flush with ph balanced water and wait they will recover a long time ago i made the mistake of using MG nutes bad idea
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Re: Bright green leaf margins and older leaves dying, what gives?

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its magnesium defienciency.

i'd guess that the little nute burn in your last pic is not a recent occurance? ie its when you burned them when trying MG nutes, yeh?
That actually started to appear quite a bit after I had flushed the Miracle Grow nutes out.
Could it be that the soil I pulled from my garden was poor quality and was deficient in nutrients such as magnesium?

I have flushed the plant twice already since I posted and there is no sign of it letting up.

Would it be better to treat it with something like Epsom Salts (maybe foliar feed) or should I let the plant try to get the magnesium out of the fresh 5 gallons of soil?
 
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That actually started to appear quite a bit after I had flushed the Miracle Grow nutes out.
Could it be that the soil I pulled from my garden was poor quality and was deficient in nutrients such as magnesium?

I have flushed the plant twice already since I posted and there is no sign of it letting up.

Would it be better to treat it with something like Epsom Salts (maybe foliar feed) or should I let the plant try to get the magnesium out of the fresh 5 gallons of soil?
yeh well if you keep flushing your soil then that'd be why it is deficient of nutrients. i dont know about epsom salts. it just needs a fert which is packed with micro nutes.
 
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