PLants drooping and one may be burnt

[Thunder Haze]

ok so i started a grow in my aerogarden deluxe about 1.5 weeks ago so far i have three plants up one is in great condition an the two others im worried about an need helo.

1. the first one i think may be burnt from the nutes. it has some yellow on the top of the leaves
2. the second is drooping but looks healthy elsewhere.
3. the third one is doing great which is what i dont understand how all of them are doing something different when there in the same kit


so if anyone has any ideas, thought, or answers they would be appreciated greatly, this is my first grow and just getting used to it.

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by Thunder Haze

ok so i started a grow in my aerogarden deluxe about 1.5 weeks ago so far i have three plants up one is in great condition an the two others im worried about an need helo.

1. the first one i think may be burnt from the nutes. it has some yellow on the top of the leaves
2. the second is drooping but looks healthy elsewhere.
3. the third one is doing great which is what i dont understand how all of them are doing something different when there in the same kit


so if anyone has any ideas, thought, or answers they would be appreciated greatly, this is my first grow and just getting used to it.

Can you show us some pix?

Are the roots all looking the same and are they all getting water?

What's your pH?

What water do you use?

What and how much nutes?

What light and how high?

Nute burn will show on leaf tips and yellowing is either a pH issue of lack of"N".

[Thunder Haze]

Originally Posted by ocitown

Can you show us some pix?

Are the roots all looking the same and are they all getting water?

What's your pH?

What water do you use?

What and how much nutes?

What light and how high?

Nute burn will show on leaf tips and yellowing is either a pH issue of lack of"N".

ok i can have pics up by tomorrow cause im gettin a new camera, but not sure of the ph, and how can i figure the ph? water is straight from the faucet. well the nutes came with the kit, and i was told they would burn the plants cause of their strength but im only using half of what is called for so this hopefully wont happen..the lights are three bulbs not sure what they put off, it's on www.aerogarden.com check out the deluxe this is what i have

Well it looks as though the middle of the leaf is getting the damage, and the system is a drip irrigation so the roots get the water

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by Thunder Haze

ok i can have pics up by tomorrow cause im gettin a new camera, but not sure of the ph, and how can i figure the ph? water is straight from the faucet. well the nutes came with the kit, and i was told they would burn the plants cause of their strength but im only using half of what is called for so this hopefully wont happen..the lights are three bulbs not sure what they put off, it's on www.aerogarden.com check out the deluxe this is what i have

Well it looks as though the middle of the leaf is getting the damage, and the system is a drip irrigation so the roots get the water

No nutes are needed for MJ till week 2-4 and pH is VERY important too.

Id suggest getting several gal. of distilled water and dumping the lot and going 1/4 nutes at this point.

Your tap has chlorine and needs to sit out for 24 hrs first if used and prolly is over 7.0pH and with 1/2 nutes may be 6.5 but your AG needs 5.0-6.0pH.

Distilled is ~7.0 and with 1/4 nutes IT will prolly get to 6.0 which is the max pH you use in hydroponics.

Order a lil digital pH meter online for $30 ASAP and get an aquarium tester for now and pH down at the pet store and adj. the pH to 5.5 if you want your plants to live through the new year.

[Thunder Haze]

Originally Posted by ocitown

No nutes are needed for MJ till week 2-4 and pH is VERY important too.

Id suggest getting several gal. of distilled water and dumping the lot and going 1/4 nutes at this point.

Your tap has chlorine and needs to sit out for 24 hrs first if used and prolly is over 7.0pH and with 1/2 nutes may be 6.5 but your AG needs 5.0-6.0pH.

Distilled is ~7.0 and with 1/4 nutes IT will prolly get to 6.0 which is the max pH you use in hydroponics.

Order a lil digital pH meter online for $30 ASAP and get an aquarium tester for now and pH down at the pet store and adj. the pH to 5.5 if you want your plants to live through the new year.

ok awesome, i didnt even think of this or take it into thought that the ph would be it, but im a newbie with plenty of learnin. thanks for the help it is greatly appreciated, i willpost pics up soon an will keepposted on how everything goes, im on the way to walmart to get everything thanks man!

[Thunder Haze]

one more q's? i just replaced the water, do i need a nute now or will it be bad for it? cause i put one in last sat.?

[ocitown]

Originally Posted by Thunder Haze

one more q's? i just replaced the water, do i need a nute now or will it be bad for it? cause i put one in last sat.?

You really dont need nutes but since you did last time go 1/8th then pH and allow the pH to move through the 5-6 area not always the same(this will let micro nutes in at dif. pH BTWN the 5-6).

[ocitown]

For clearification,after you finish the distilled,nutes,superthrive and pH wait till the next day and check the pH again.

If you did a 5.5 and its now at 5.7 let it be(its still within the 5-6 and doing fine).

If it goes to 5.2 again let it be.

If and when it drops to 5.0 you know it will prolly always "drop" at this point of the grow and needs to be readjusted (reset) to 6.0pH so it can naturally drift again to 5.0 which should take a few days(it can happen faster under some conditions,a small res is one of those).

OR

If and when it raises to 6.0pH you know at this phase of your grow it will prolly always "raise" and will need not go over the max. of 6.0 and will need your pH adj. to a 5.0 so it can again naturally drift to 6.0.

This pH movement will allow all nutes to be used by your plants because some are used at lower pH and others at higher while others in the middle.

A common mistake is to keep the pH stable at one pH which is good only for the nutes which are used at that pH but others would always be "locked out" and plants would enevidiblely have a deficientcy,then adding more nutes which would be the obvious solution would only cause more problems as the deficientcy is only d/t the pH lock out (its there but it is just locked out).

I would recommend both ppm and pH meters and get the highest quality you can afford because you get what you pay for and the probe quality will pay you back in the long run while a very cheap one may be way off and mimic other problems which dont exsist or cause a lockout situation in which plants may never recover from killing them.

I use a Blue lab meter with three built in meters which the pH probe can be replaced if needed and it also has a 5 year full swap replacement warrantee.This way i know for five years "MINIMUM" i need not worry about my meters,buy once and be happy (expensive) OR,go cheap and get lucky OR go cheap and loose $1000s in time and plants(one crops grow can be worth over$10,000.00 and this is a no brainer but if your grows crop is one bag seed plant you can take more of a chance.)

[Thunder Haze]

Originally Posted by ocitown

For clearification,after you finish the distilled,nutes,superthrive and pH wait till the next day and check the pH again.

If you did a 5.5 and its now at 5.7 let it be(its still within the 5-6 and doing fine).

If it goes to 5.2 again let it be.

If and when it drops to 5.0 you know it will prolly always "drop" at this point of the grow and needs to be readjusted (reset) to 6.0pH so it can naturally drift again to 5.0 which should take a few days(it can happen faster under some conditions,a small res is one of those).

OR

If and when it raises to 6.0pH you know at this phase of your grow it will prolly always "raise" and will need not go over the max. of 6.0 and will need your pH adj. to a 5.0 so it can again naturally drift to 6.0.

This pH movement will allow all nutes to be used by your plants because some are used at lower pH and others at higher while others in the middle.

A common mistake is to keep the pH stable at one pH which is good only for the nutes which are used at that pH but others would always be "locked out" and plants would enevidiblely have a deficientcy,then adding more nutes which would be the obvious solution would only cause more problems as the deficientcy is only d/t the pH lock out (its there but it is just locked out).

I would recommend both ppm and pH meters and get the highest quality you can afford because you get what you pay for and the probe quality will pay you back in the long run while a very cheap one may be way off and mimic other problems which dont exsist or cause a lockout situation in which plants may never recover from killing them.

I use a Blue lab meter with three built in meters which the pH probe can be replaced if needed and it also has a 5 year full swap replacement warrantee.This way i know for five years "MINIMUM" i need not worry about my meters,buy once and be happy (expensive) OR,go cheap and get lucky OR go cheap and loose $1000s in time and plants(one crops grow can be worth over$10,000.00 and this is a no brainer but if your grows crop is one bag seed plant you can take more of a chance.)

Thanks man for all you insight, hopefully some place will be open today because of the holidays. but i need help posting pics up, i have a few to show you of the grow