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Old 09-18-2008, 10:12 PM
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Princess Leigh, Our last Hope(PICS)

So this is my first grow and it has not gone too well as of late.

I planted 4 pre-germinated bag seeds in "ocean forest" soil on April 8 this year

under 150W 10,000k Metal Halide for about 30 days of 24/7 light. after a critical emergency(it was discovered and threatened to be reported), the grow box (17X17X30 minifridge) was converted to support 4 24W cfls.

they were moved to a completely new location under different lighting on May 12
one week later I went 12/12

Up until this point I had been watering with "Grow Big" and Thrive alive B1 once a week, thrive alive and water ever 3 days or so in between.
I topped and began using Tiger Bloom in place of Grow Big on the same schedule, at day 40 (5/19)

that was a hundred and twenty something days ago.

they have been growing very slowly, taking "breaks" with little to no new growth for a straight week at a time.

On day 99 of the grow 3, which had been the smallest fell apart completely, hadnt matured, no triches or anything just died.

It seemed like nute burn, Ph was ok around 6.8, wasn't using full doses of either nutrient. Made mental note to switch up feeding for the rest of the plants.

everything else looked good, temps were spiking in the low 80's so I set up a small Co2 unit. I spaced out tiger bloom dosage to every two weeks at about 3/4 dosage things looked ok. harvest 4 when its trichs were about 25% amber hairs were almost all orange. (8/11) Ended looking like weed should look, smelt nice and progressivly smelt more and more like hay. i'm almost certain it was curing technique gone wrong

the other two were starting to yellow like crazy,

triches were deffinetly present and clouding so I watered full dose tiger bloom that night and one week later began using just water.


It's been two weeks since they were recieving water.
6 had almost all of its hairs orange and while it was still low on amber trichs it was harvested because it just looked terrible.

It was this big bushy mass of calyx strings. unlike all three plants(pictures of juv' show 6 was dramatically different to begin with)

So here I am, Princess Liegh is my only hope to have a successful outcome.


almost a week ago all triches were clouded within the past 3 days amber trichs have been popping up on most bud.
This morning I was seeing consistant numbers, every place I looked with my digital microscpe had at least 2 or 3 towards the top but middle to bottom was typically a decent ratio, maybe 10-15%

I want a heady High not a Couch lock high so Ive been aiming for 25% amber trichs at harvest,

a wrap up of all stats
4 24w CFLs
Tigerbloom and Thrive alive
co2
69-82*
34%-51%
pots are about 2 liters in volume.
ph started around 5.8 on the first day of the grow, today its typicall more like 6.8 been adjusting water to bring it down for literally months and it doesnt do anything.
on 7/22 I tried flushing all plants with Ph adjusted 6.0 water and saw no chang in Ph over the next couple of days. (I've tried liquid drops and paper strips nothing)

I've read almsot everything on the web I can find, What am I doing wrong? they're taking forever and I'm doing everything I see neccisary.

can someone with esperience analyze this mass of data and tell me where I went wrong?
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:43 PM
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Re: Princess Leigh, Our last Hope(PICS)

stop using tiger bloom. well don't stop, but don't use it as your primary bloom nute. your plants aren't getting enough nitrogen and probably not enough potassium. Tiger bloom is a high Phosphorous bloom supplement, not designed to be used alone. i use it, but always as a supplement to some basic bloom nute, usually BioBizz BioBloom with good effect. you need to get a more complete bloom fertilizer. i know it's called tiger "bloom" but it is not complete. fox farms words the description to make it sound as though it could be a primary bloom nute, so don't feel bad. very vague. but check out the nute ratio, 2-8-4. Way too out of wack to be used alone. Try asking at the store for a basic bloom complex, and then check the ratio. Look for 1-2.5-2 or something more balanced like that. then your plants will have enough N to finish their stretch and keep the leaves nice, enough P to throw the nasty frosty trichs all up and down, and enough K to prevent disease, keep the fluids moving efficiently, and keep the plant stress free.

also, tiger bloom is pretty acidic. maybe hold off on it for a bit, and keep that dose low.

for your specific situation, i'd say a good flush and then water with a good dose of the new bloom nute, no tiger bloom for a bit. it'll probably take a few weeks to notice a big improvement but that should speed up flowering and help them perk up a bit.

word up and good luck!!

[EDIT]: Just thought of this useful simile. Using only Thrive Alive and Tiger Bloom is like only eating dessert and a vitamin, no main course.

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Re: Princess Leigh, Our last Hope(PICS)

word well grow two is in the works so I don't know if im gonna try and save this one. I will look for a basic bloom food tho good call. Something told me it was the nutes but i didnt know.
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Re: Princess Leigh, Our last Hope(PICS)

what happened w/ the close call
 
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Re: Princess Leigh, Our last Hope(PICS)

neighbors were moving and there is a small gap that I guess someone saw reflected light or something, and was like WTF fridge lights are off when the door is closed and normally dont have locks on them, nor fans in the back get it out of here. so we did.

Wasn't too big of a deal they just didnt want that much heat on the building being fellow smokers.

we moved it. But the electricity at the new location was shotty. The 3.5 amps of the light was popping almost every circuit available to plug it in. I decided to try a CFL fixture if it failed at least I could use them on my reptile tanks. but luckily it worked. Im certain its enough light however, this nute problem killed the grow. the appartment is vacant again. Im faced with running another CFL grow, or go back to the mh either way its gonna be Hydroponic and its gonna be one plant. more risk, more chance of wasted time, but im in no hurry.

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