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Old 05-28-2008, 04:04 PM
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Wilting Plants 3 Weeks Into Flowering!!!!!

Hi guys, into week 8, plants have been flowering now for 3 weeks, in the last few days ive noticed that the plants are wilting when the lights are on, there getting watered 4 times a day for 1min each time, There in coco mix. Ive added some pics to show you guys, hopfully somone will be able to troubleshoot my problem if there is one.

How many? - 6 Plants
Type of Plant? - Unknown
Age of plant? - 10 Weeks
How much and what type light? - 8x 600watt HPS
How Long Are Lights On? - 12/12
What temps? - 25-29 Degrees Celcius
What humidity? - 30/35% when lights on, 65% when lights are off
Does it dry out at the end of the day? by the time the lights turn off the humidty is down to 30/35%
What size pots? - pot diamiter is 45cmx45cm width x 35cm high

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Old 05-28-2008, 06:42 PM
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looks like overwatering to me
 
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:46 PM
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Okay, Thanks for the suggestion, If that is the case, how long should i be watering them for each day? i have automatic timers set which water for 1 minute 4 times daily, is this too much? what should it be?

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Old 05-28-2008, 06:53 PM
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not sure exactly, i'm more of a hydro guy but i do know that you should be watering as little as possible. stick your finger an inch down into your medium if possible and see if it's wet or dry or damp. if it is on the dry side water and figure out how many times you do this per day and set your timers accordingly.
 
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:12 PM
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One minute 4 times a day is too much. Cut back to a minute every other day and see how they respond.
 
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:53 AM
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Ok thanks, ill do that, will these guys recover? will this effect the flowering? will i get less yield?

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Old 05-29-2008, 09:28 PM
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yeh its overwatering mate.
Soil moisture that is not absorbed rapidly turns stagnant; the plant quickly uses up any oxygen within the water, then is unable to respire further
I would'nt water them for at least another 5-7 days,especially the size of pots your using. they are soaking your roots,basically suffocating them, they cant breath,not enough aireation in the soil as its compressed with the weight of the water,In short, overwatering will slowly suffocate your roots, preventing sufficient oxygen uptake by the roots, and ultimately causing root rot.
if you can get something like a knitting needle(or similar)& gently poke holes right down to around 2/3,s down, then fork over the holes gently, this will put air into your soil helping dry it out so you can sort out your over watering+ help air your roots, which WILL effect your overall yield.

dry out the soil & re-apply water & feed. then i would water every 3-4 days YOURSELF,if possible, as you want to water them just enough that the water drips out the drainage holes & when thats done get rid of the excess water left in the tray.
job done then repeat. i leave my babies for 4 days between waterings.

is there a reason why you have a timer on for watering mate or is it possible for you to water they babies up close & personal


ps;yeh they will recover mate, apart from your little set back you've gotta good looking grow on
 
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:10 AM
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Thanks alot Motoheed, your advise is really helpfull, about the auto feeding timer.... i really didnt want to have to go in there to much, i heard its best to just leave them alone and do there thing, i guess after what you said ill just water them myself every so often, ill do what you suggested with the knitting needle and folk hopfully this will save them, The tops of the soil is really hard and seems that it is covered in roots, by me poking at it with a needle and folk will this harm the roots at all?

ps: Thanks alot for the compliment aswell, appreciate it
 
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Thanks alot Motoheed, your advise is really helpfull, about the auto feeding timer.... i really didnt want to have to go in there to much, i heard its best to just leave them alone and do there thing, i guess after what you said ill just water them myself every so often, ill do what you suggested with the knitting needle and folk hopfully this will save them, The tops of the soil is really hard and seems that it is covered in roots, by me poking at it with a needle and folk will this harm the roots at all?

ps: Thanks alot for the compliment aswell, appreciate it
sorry not got back till now bud been away for long weekend

oh you should go in there bud ,get personal with your ladies,just make sure your not bringing anything from outside into your grow area
wash hands,make sure shoes or whatever clean etc...

As for poking holes in it ,dont worry if crusty on top needles will penetrate it & no it wont harm your roots because your not going to rip,tear,or break them.

gently & slowly push needles in ,not at the sides or near main stem but between these points, if you feel an obstruction then stop & lean the needle at another angle until it starts going down again. ( down 2/3,s only..) do this evenly over the pot about 8-10 holes, then get a fork & gently fork the soil ,covering the holes you've just made. this will aireate the soil letting your roots breathe a little better& your soil will not stagnate plus the root system is not going to suffocate, making for a healthier ,bigger yielding ,potent plant.

(once you DO IT you'll see how easy it is too find your way down & then be saying ,whats the fuss about)

after that get some new soil & put a new top soil layer over the roots which you can see at the top & gently pack down,covering the roots which are showing.

job done

ps; you should fork your soil once a week mate as this gets air into your soil.(same idea as the needles but your only doing the top soil)
you notice how compact it is after watering, be the same underneath the top soil, so gives you an idea whats going on down below...going back to suffocating your roots thing

all the best
 
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i have a problem with my plant...
its a month into growing and in a nice sized pot but i started with not enough soil, it has about 6 in from the surface of soil, and i want to keep it in the same pot but add more soil so should i flip it upside down and take the plant out then add soil? or just pour soil into it? thanks
 
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i have a problem with my plant...
its a month into growing and in a nice sized pot but i started with not enough soil, it has about 6 in from the surface of soil, and i want to keep it in the same pot but add more soil so should i flip it upside down and take the plant out then add soil? or just pour soil into it? thanks
you could just put soil on top but best too take it out the pot put soil in as the roots will be turning back on themselves, so putting fresh soil below the rootball & then give a good watering & the roots will fill up the base nicely.

if its your only pot of that size have everything ready before you transplant(if you have another pot of same size use that), as you dont want the roots getting too much light or air for too long ,so do it properly but quite quickly(never hurry as thats when mistakes can happen, just make sure its not out of its pot for too long)

put a layer of soil on the top and done

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