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morganz0r · #1 (**permalink**) 05-18-2008, 11:32 PM

Hey everyone
This is a strawberry cough plant the ph is about 6.2 in hydro with sensi grow and some humic acids. I purchased a clone and it was pretty. I transplanted into hydro. The tops are growing in very healthy I believe. I had a problem with a bug but I sprayed with neem oil and I think the problem went away. Right now I have these dry rust brown curled spots in the middle of some leaves. Im not sure why I don't think they're burnt because the tops had been coming in slightly yellowing so i added nutes until the colors came in correctly.

doindia · #2 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 08:22 AM

i see magnesium, the outter serated edges seem to be yellowing, also on a few leaves coming in on the leaf margin, yet still green veins.

wait for someone else to chime in, but if they were my plants id probably throw some epson salt in there

motorheed · #3 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 03:46 PM

yeh agree ^^ need a little epsom salts applied.

level teaspoon of epsoms per 2 litres of water,put into a small glass of hot/warm water ,stir till gin clear & apply to your plant with your next feed.

morganz0r · #4 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 05:06 PM

i noticed that on one or two leafs but it never got too bad. I was planning on getting epsom salts yesterday, but the people at wal-mart were useless. I guess I should go to a pharmacy? The target by my house has one. Anyway what about the browning crusty part? It seems to happen on 3 different leaf sets all about the same height.

Help_Needed · #5 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 06:11 PM

To be honest, you haven't given enough information to get an accurate diagnosis. The one thing you've mentioned that *does* stick out is your pH. 6.2 is a bit too high for a hydro setup. You want to aim for 5.5-5.8.

Otherwise...

What type of hydro system?
What nutes are you using?
What's your TDS/EC reading?
Res temps?
Ambient temps?
What type of lighting?

Personally, I'd hold off on the epsom salts until you've gotten your pH down and ruled out any other problems.

morganz0r · #6 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 08:56 PM

its a bubbleponics system. the roots are in water that is well aerated. I'll lower the ph. I'm using 80 watts of floros at 6500k and 5000k the ppm is 1100 the plant is probably at least 6 weeks old. Its about 26 degrees in the grow room and there is a fan i'll probably pick up a bigger one.

morganz0r · #7 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 01:46 AM

so i just got my meter in today and it says my water is about 1900ppm and the ph is now 5.8. That seems like a high number for ferts, but they haven't been coming in terribly dark and Strawberry Cough is a sativa so it should want that many ferts? Whats the word experts.

Help_Needed · #8 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by morganz0r

so i just got my meter in today and it says my water is about 1900ppm and the ph is now 5.8. That seems like a high number for ferts, but they haven't been coming in terribly dark and Strawberry Cough is a sativa so it should want that many ferts? Whats the word experts.

Yeah, that concentration is really high. I would expect you'd be burning the hell out of your plants with the nutes that strong, but your pics look really look more like deficiencies. Is it possible you're not mixing your nutes in the right proportion? Also, if you haven't done so, be sure to calibrate your pH meter. I had one go bad on me once, and it created all sorts of problems for my grow.

morganz0r · #9 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 06:00 PM

I added 85 ml of sensi grow a and b which makes it about 3.7 ml per litre. I didn't think that was too much since anything less than that the plants were a very pale green. Also my water comes out about 250-300ppm and when I ph adjusted it, the ppm went from 280 to 550??? What does that mean. Also the ph of it as it comes out is 8.2 I know highly alkaline so I always adjust the ph, as soon as I move I'll be using RO so there won't be any worries.

Help_Needed · #10 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 06:30 PM

This could be your problem. Hard water is usually very heavy in calcium and too much calcium can cause Mg lockout. I'd suggest buying some distilled water from your local grocier or Walmar and refilling your reservoir.

morganz0r · #11 (**permalink**) 05-22-2008, 02:50 AM

OK Ill check into that. What ppm should I shoot for for a clone that's about a foot tall in hydro? I also have a plant thats in perlte/spagnum peat moss what ppm should i water it at? I used organic fertilizers, guanos and meta-k and the ppm was about 800 when i watered it. I guess well see what happens.

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#3 (permalink) 05-19-2008, 03:46 PM
motorheed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: uk Posts: 915	yeh agree ^^ need a little epsom salts applied. level teaspoon of epsoms per 2 litres of water,put into a small glass of hot/warm water ,stir till gin clear & apply to your plant with your next feed.

#4 (permalink) 05-19-2008, 05:06 PM
morganz0r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 234	i noticed that on one or two leafs but it never got too bad. I was planning on getting epsom salts yesterday, but the people at wal-mart were useless. I guess I should go to a pharmacy? The target by my house has one. Anyway what about the browning crusty part? It seems to happen on 3 different leaf sets all about the same height. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tommorrow.

#5 (permalink) 05-19-2008, 06:11 PM
Help_Needed Gardener without a garden Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 975	To be honest, you haven't given enough information to get an accurate diagnosis. The one thing you've mentioned that does stick out is your pH. 6.2 is a bit too high for a hydro setup. You want to aim for 5.5-5.8. Otherwise... What type of hydro system? What nutes are you using? What's your TDS/EC reading? Res temps? Ambient temps? What type of lighting? Personally, I'd hold off on the epsom salts until you've gotten your pH down and ruled out any other problems. __________________ My journey as a gardener.... Round One - Blueberry x Haze Beginner's (un)luck and the learning process Round Two - White Widow High temps = hermies ...and how I fixed them Round Three - Blueberry x Haze (again) Third time is just right (mostly)

#6 (permalink) 05-19-2008, 08:56 PM
morganz0r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 234	its a bubbleponics system. the roots are in water that is well aerated. I'll lower the ph. I'm using 80 watts of floros at 6500k and 5000k the ppm is 1100 the plant is probably at least 6 weeks old. Its about 26 degrees in the grow room and there is a fan i'll probably pick up a bigger one. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tommorrow.

#7 (permalink) 05-20-2008, 01:46 AM
morganz0r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 234	so i just got my meter in today and it says my water is about 1900ppm and the ph is now 5.8. That seems like a high number for ferts, but they haven't been coming in terribly dark and Strawberry Cough is a sativa so it should want that many ferts? Whats the word experts. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tommorrow.

#9 (permalink) 05-21-2008, 06:00 PM
morganz0r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 234	I added 85 ml of sensi grow a and b which makes it about 3.7 ml per litre. I didn't think that was too much since anything less than that the plants were a very pale green. Also my water comes out about 250-300ppm and when I ph adjusted it, the ppm went from 280 to 550??? What does that mean. Also the ph of it as it comes out is 8.2 I know highly alkaline so I always adjust the ph, as soon as I move I'll be using RO so there won't be any worries. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tommorrow.

#10 (permalink) 05-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Help_Needed Gardener without a garden Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 975	This could be your problem. Hard water is usually very heavy in calcium and too much calcium can cause Mg lockout. I'd suggest buying some distilled water from your local grocier or Walmar and refilling your reservoir. __________________ My journey as a gardener.... Round One - Blueberry x Haze Beginner's (un)luck and the learning process Round Two - White Widow High temps = hermies ...and how I fixed them Round Three - Blueberry x Haze (again) Third time is just right (mostly)

#11 (permalink) 05-22-2008, 02:50 AM
morganz0r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 234	OK Ill check into that. What ppm should I shoot for for a clone that's about a foot tall in hydro? I also have a plant thats in perlte/spagnum peat moss what ppm should i water it at? I used organic fertilizers, guanos and meta-k and the ppm was about 800 when i watered it. I guess well see what happens. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tommorrow.

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