Help with sick Plant; droopy yellow leaves!!

ganjaganja · #1 (**permalink**) 04-17-2008, 10:10 PM

The green color on the larger leaves is fading to a light yellow greenish color. Leaves are starting to droop and curl under. Here are a bunch of pics so hopefully someone can see what im talking about and tell me what's wrong. They are in a hydro hut, I had heard about the HH units having a problem with killing some plants. Do these look nutrient deficient? or is the HH killing them?

details:
pH: 6.7
soil: fox farm organic ocean forest
light: 12 and 12

They have been in that soil forever, but I recently transplanted them into a much larger pot with the same soil in it. I know this fox farm has nute's already in it, do you think maybe transplanting it into the new soil with nutes over fed the plants and its too much nutes?

ganjaganja · #2 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 02:26 AM

come on guys. HELP ME. i know how smart all of you are...where is wise Ganja Guerrilla??

ganjaganja · #3 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 04:17 AM

please guys...help me!!!! i know someone up here must know something

AugustWest · #4 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 04:27 AM

hey dude..

how long have they been in the HH?
How many weeks are they in flower?
what are your temps?
what have you fed them? I highly doubt the new soil "over fed" them especially this late in the game.
they look deficient if anything.. but depending on how late into flower you are it's pretty normal to get some yellowing.

ganjaganja · #5 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 05:12 AM

okay...so these plants were actually just given to me by a neighbor. I guess he just had them growing in his window for the past 3 months. they started budding about 3 weeks ago. 7 days ago he gave them to me....his pot was too small so I transplanted them into a bigger pot. thing is, when i transplanted them, they were very green and lush looking...transplant went fine, i put them in the hydro hut 7 days ago, fed them pH'ed water by itself, that is all the plants have ever had besides the soil they were in which has about a 60 ish day supply of nutes. the temperature is good, between 68-78. The sides of the leaves are turning brown and the tips are also turning brown and crunchy. is that lack of nutes?

AugustWest · #6 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 05:30 AM

damn dude..
when i transplant into fresh fox farm soil they don't get fed for a long time and thrive usually.
I had a bad hydro hut in the past and it did effect everything i put in there.
can you take one out of the HH and see how it does in comparison after a few days?
I can't imagine that green lush plants transplanted into that soil 7 days ago would give such a deficiency. Nor would it over feed plants at this stage.
I mean you'd really have to load up with nutes to kill a full blown weed plant.

is it the actual hydrohut brand? which one is it? I think the "mini" 3 x 3 was the one with the issues.
sorry if i'm not a help.. i'm not very good at diagnosing shit like this.

The Coma · #7 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 07:28 AM

AUGUST WEST BRINGS UP THE MAIN POINTS....

But similiar incidents that occured to me in the past were as simple as "OVER" or "UNDER" watering....Even if the soil ect appeared otherwise?

ganjaganja · #8 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 08:20 AM

thanks, but its definetly not over or underwatering. i got that down pat. any other advice?

SmknVTEC · #9 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 09:01 AM

Do you know the soil pH?
Some of those leaves look like they need magnesium. You can try epsom salt at 1/2 tsp per gallon of water which can't hurt and is worth a try.

eL Tauro · #10 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 09:21 AM

how much water did you feed them ?? you might have over watered.

ganjaganja · #11 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 06:06 PM

no its not over or underwatering. its gotta be not enough nutrient because they are loosing more green color everyday

Help_Needed · #12 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 08:32 PM

Those colas look awefully well developed for a plant that's only three weeks into flowering. You sure they're not a little further along than that.

Otherwise, it's either your hydrohut or they're hungry. FFOF is mostly organic, so it might take a while for the nutes to activate and start feeding your plant. Maybe give them a light foliar feeding and see if that helps.

SmknVTEC · #13 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 08:35 PM

I don't know all those leaf tips are brown and some of the leaves are cupping downward. Since the hps is on we can't see the exact color of the leaves but the cupping and brown tips looks like over fed. When it dries out completely you can flush the pot. If after a few days the trouble does not improve or at least subside, then you can give it more nutes.

SmknVTEC · #14 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 08:38 PM

Ha ha 27 different suggestions LOL. August does your hydro hut that was troublesome look like his HH?

Help_Needed · #15 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

Ha ha 27 different suggestions LOL.

Maybe that's the Hive Mind's way of saying, "Hell if I know"?

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#2 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 02:26 AM
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#3 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 04:17 AM
ganjaganja Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,027 Blog Entries: 1	please guys...help me!!!! i know someone up here must know something __________________ "Welcome, ganjaganja. You last visited: Today at 04:20 AM" USE THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING ABOUT SICK PLANTS: http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-...e-posting.html Indoor Ebb&Gro Lucas Formula Grow!::http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-jour...ml#post3795114 everything I write online is a lie to make me appear cool to other uncool people.

#4 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 04:27 AM
AugustWest Global Citizen Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: where the wind don't blow so strange Posts: 14,412	hey dude.. how long have they been in the HH? How many weeks are they in flower? what are your temps? what have you fed them? I highly doubt the new soil "over fed" them especially this late in the game. they look deficient if anything.. but depending on how late into flower you are it's pretty normal to get some yellowing. __________________ Fertilizing Wisely QWISO Tutorial Current Grow: Arcata Trainwreck x Chemdog DD Rez's Sour Diesel x Chemdog DD Super Silver Haze x WW Power Plant Pollen Chuck

#5 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 05:12 AM
ganjaganja Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,027 Blog Entries: 1	okay...so these plants were actually just given to me by a neighbor. I guess he just had them growing in his window for the past 3 months. they started budding about 3 weeks ago. 7 days ago he gave them to me....his pot was too small so I transplanted them into a bigger pot. thing is, when i transplanted them, they were very green and lush looking...transplant went fine, i put them in the hydro hut 7 days ago, fed them pH'ed water by itself, that is all the plants have ever had besides the soil they were in which has about a 60 ish day supply of nutes. the temperature is good, between 68-78. The sides of the leaves are turning brown and the tips are also turning brown and crunchy. is that lack of nutes? __________________ "Welcome, ganjaganja. You last visited: Today at 04:20 AM" USE THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING ABOUT SICK PLANTS: http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-...e-posting.html Indoor Ebb&Gro Lucas Formula Grow!::http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-jour...ml#post3795114 everything I write online is a lie to make me appear cool to other uncool people.

#6 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 05:30 AM
AugustWest Global Citizen Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: where the wind don't blow so strange Posts: 14,412	damn dude.. when i transplant into fresh fox farm soil they don't get fed for a long time and thrive usually. I had a bad hydro hut in the past and it did effect everything i put in there. can you take one out of the HH and see how it does in comparison after a few days? I can't imagine that green lush plants transplanted into that soil 7 days ago would give such a deficiency. Nor would it over feed plants at this stage. I mean you'd really have to load up with nutes to kill a full blown weed plant. is it the actual hydrohut brand? which one is it? I think the "mini" 3 x 3 was the one with the issues. sorry if i'm not a help.. i'm not very good at diagnosing shit like this. __________________ Fertilizing Wisely QWISO Tutorial Current Grow: Arcata Trainwreck x Chemdog DD Rez's Sour Diesel x Chemdog DD Super Silver Haze x WW Power Plant Pollen Chuck

#7 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 07:28 AM
The Coma Civilized Growrooms Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Left Coast Cali Posts: 138	AUGUST WEST BRINGS UP THE MAIN POINTS.... But similiar incidents that occured to me in the past were as simple as "OVER" or "UNDER" watering....Even if the soil ect appeared otherwise? __________________ "We don't create the Strains you smoke!, We just make the strains you smoke BETTER"

#8 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 08:20 AM
ganjaganja Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,027 Blog Entries: 1	thanks, but its definetly not over or underwatering. i got that down pat. any other advice? __________________ "Welcome, ganjaganja. You last visited: Today at 04:20 AM" USE THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING ABOUT SICK PLANTS: http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-...e-posting.html Indoor Ebb&Gro Lucas Formula Grow!::http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-jour...ml#post3795114 everything I write online is a lie to make me appear cool to other uncool people.

#9 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 09:01 AM
SmknVTEC Moderator Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 8,084	Do you know the soil pH? Some of those leaves look like they need magnesium. You can try epsom salt at 1/2 tsp per gallon of water which can't hurt and is worth a try. __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread PGAMG Thread MG vs. Generic Soil Current and Legit Seedbanks GC Forum Rules

#10 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 09:21 AM
eL Tauro Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 173	how much water did you feed them ?? you might have over watered.

#11 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 06:06 PM
ganjaganja Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,027 Blog Entries: 1	no its not over or underwatering. its gotta be not enough nutrient because they are loosing more green color everyday __________________ "Welcome, ganjaganja. You last visited: Today at 04:20 AM" USE THIS LINK BEFORE POSTING ABOUT SICK PLANTS: http://forum.grasscity.com/absolute-...e-posting.html Indoor Ebb&Gro Lucas Formula Grow!::http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-jour...ml#post3795114 everything I write online is a lie to make me appear cool to other uncool people.

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#12 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 08:32 PM
Help_Needed Brushing out the cobwebs Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 980	Those colas look awefully well developed for a plant that's only three weeks into flowering. You sure they're not a little further along than that. Otherwise, it's either your hydrohut or they're hungry. FFOF is mostly organic, so it might take a while for the nutes to activate and start feeding your plant. Maybe give them a light foliar feeding and see if that helps. __________________ My journey as a gardener.... Round One - Blueberry x Haze Beginner's (un)luck and the learning process Round Two - White Widow High temps = hermies ...and how I fixed them Round Three - Blueberry x Haze (again) Third time is just right (mostly)

#13 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 08:35 PM
SmknVTEC Moderator Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 8,084	I don't know all those leaf tips are brown and some of the leaves are cupping downward. Since the hps is on we can't see the exact color of the leaves but the cupping and brown tips looks like over fed. When it dries out completely you can flush the pot. If after a few days the trouble does not improve or at least subside, then you can give it more nutes. __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread PGAMG Thread MG vs. Generic Soil Current and Legit Seedbanks GC Forum Rules

#14 (permalink) 04-18-2008, 08:38 PM
SmknVTEC Moderator Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 8,084	Ha ha 27 different suggestions LOL. August does your hydro hut that was troublesome look like his HH? __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread PGAMG Thread MG vs. Generic Soil Current and Legit Seedbanks GC Forum Rules