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Old 01-31-2008, 01:01 AM
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Please help my seedlings (3 weeks)

So everything was looking completely fine then the past few days only a couple of my babies have turned south. I've attached the picture, it seems so weird to me all of them are using the same amount of water, same soil, same everything yet only a couple are ill. Please any advice would be great, and no i have not given any nutes yet, and the soil is regular potting soil nute free.

the left one is a purple evolution and the right is a white wash if it matters.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:11 PM
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Try giving them 1/4 strength-1/2 strength nutrients, looks like a deficiency.. maybe K or Ca.
 
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what type of soil are you in, also it looks as if your light are too far away from the plants, what lighting are you using?
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Looks like poor soil and not enough water.
 
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:18 AM
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It might be the poor soil but I don't think its not enough water since this happened after they received a thorough watering. They're on a 250watt MH Conversion, and if anything they were too close so I moved them about 6 inches lower, they were about a little less than a foot away. I'll try giving them a very low dose of nutes. Thanks for the help!
 
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It might be the poor soil but I don't think its not enough water since this happened after they received a thorough watering. They're on a 250watt MH Conversion, and if anything they were too close so I moved them about 6 inches lower, they were about a little less than a foot away. I'll try giving them a very low dose of nutes. Thanks for the help!

normally seeds dont stretch like yours when the lights are too close, also your leaves dont look like the light is too close, but ill just take your word for it. either way its nothing serious, just a minor detail. whats the temp in your room. looks like they are all doin it, so im going to go with your soil... you say its nute free soil... does that mean its organic or it dosent have time release ferts? give us some more about your soil. even though i think that might be the problem, also after 3 weeks you should be feeding. so that could have something to do with it. whats your ph?
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Well for the first week of their lives they were under improper lighting which has since been fixed. The soil is actually nutrient free, no organics no time release and yes unfortunately it is kinda shitty. It was the only thing my local store had at the time but when they're transplanted to bigger pots it will be using quality soil. Like I said I gave them a watering using water with a half dose of all purpose nutrients and I'm hoping that will fix the problem. if you have any other pointers please feel free to share, I'd hate to have them die. And unfortunately I cannot test the ph I don't have any utility for that.
 
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Well for the first week of their lives they were under improper lighting which has since been fixed. The soil is actually nutrient free, no organics no time release and yes unfortunately it is kinda shitty. It was the only thing my local store had at the time but when they're transplanted to bigger pots it will be using quality soil. Like I said I gave them a watering using water with a half dose of all purpose nutrients and I'm hoping that will fix the problem. if you have any other pointers please feel free to share, I'd hate to have them die. And unfortunately I cannot test the ph I don't have any utility for that.

jfyi a cheapo ph kit is only like 5 bucks. also i see what your saying now, were they under some sort of halogen lamp, desk lamp or something of that sort? as for the soil being nute free thats not a bad thing, because it allows you to control what your plants get fed, give it a couple more 1/2 feedings inbetween your waterings and things should start to look up


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So I just bought 2.5 CF of miracle grow potting soil, I know around here MG is considered to be evil but it's all they have around here and there is nothing else I can use. And they were under the MH the entire time except I germ'd them too early and they were forced to endure 12/12 of my finishing ones for a week. I'm currently using MG all purpose ferts on them. I haven't used soil with fertilizers in them already before, does it mean I'm not supposed to suplement them with the nutes and just let them live? I'm going to water as you said, they seemed a little better today already. Thanks for your help thus far.
 
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So I just bought 2.5 CF of miracle grow potting soil, I know around here MG is considered to be evil but it's all they have around here and there is nothing else I can use. And they were under the MH the entire time except I germ'd them too early and they were forced to endure 12/12 of my finishing ones for a week. I'm currently using MG all purpose ferts on them. I haven't used soil with fertilizers in them already before, does it mean I'm not supposed to suplement them with the nutes and just let them live? I'm going to water as you said, they seemed a little better today already. Thanks for your help thus far.

i dont want to be the bearer of bad news, but that is exactly what you will be getting with that soil. even i use MG all purpose plant food, so thats not so much your problem, i can ALMOST promise you that if you use that soil this wont be your last big problem. it has time release ferts that are harsh, and bad for the plant, the general "hated" consensus is there for a reason. i have however used the organic miracle grow, and that wasnt too bad. as for soils you gotta have some other options, do you not have a walmart? lowes? local nursery? i dont know australia but they gotta have SOMETHING. like i said your soil dosent have to be super expensive but its gotta be something that will work, and for me MG is out of the question. if you proceed to use it, i wish you luck and look forward to seeing it (im not saying it wont grow) im just saying its hated for a reason! keep us updated
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I didn't read anyones replys, but its quite obvious that the problem is shitty soil, which is probably fucking with the roots ability to grow and take in nutes, and their way too light stretched. Transplant them into a better soil and bury them up to their Cotyledons in dirt... and lower those damn lights brother.
 
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