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Old 01-11-2008, 01:51 AM
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Help with funny leaves

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So i have been asked to post this regarding my buddies plant he is growing. He is also technologically handicapped so that is why i am doing this.

I am not sure what is wrong with this plant or if anything is wrong with it at all. The leaves seem to be curling inward but only the new growth ones and they also seem to be a lighter color. I think the leaves, before the ones you can see, also did the same thing but i cannot remember. The plant is about 1.5 months old and has been LST'd so that is why it is short but is under a 1000w bulb and the temps are rough between 68-78 degrees depending upon the time of day. The humidity is at about 30% - 45% but only as of recently as he jusst bought a humidifier to help the problem of only able to reach a humidity of %20 percent before if he was lucky. I think he s using pretty generic nutes (schultz vegetative stuff 10-8-10) and is being watered a little to often but that will stop immediately.

Could this just be from overwatering and by allowing it to dry out and to be put on a lengthier watering schedule help? It is currently on a 24/0 light cycle for vegging.
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Hey guys,

So i have been asked to post this regarding my buddies plant he is growing. He is also technologically handicapped so that is why i am doing this.

I am not sure what is wrong with this plant or if anything is wrong with it at all. The leaves seem to be curling inward but only the new growth ones and they also seem to be a lighter color. I think the leaves, before the ones you can see, also did the same thing but i cannot remember. The plant is about 1.5 months old and has been LST'd so that is why it is short but is under a 1000w bulb and the temps are rough between 68-78 degrees depending upon the time of day. The humidity is at about 30% - 45% but only as of recently as he jusst bought a humidifier to help the problem of only able to reach a humidity of %20 percent before if he was lucky. I think he s using pretty generic nutes (schultz vegetative stuff 10-8-10) and is being watered a little to often but that will stop immediately.

Could this just be from overwatering and by allowing it to dry out and to be put on a lengthier watering schedule help? It is currently on a 24/0 light cycle for vegging.


def looks to have been overwatered, but i guess you got that under control. as for any def. go to the link in my sig, and over on the right are different def. search through those to the best that suits your case picture wise, at least until someone chimes in with what is wrong. sorry i couldnt be of more help, hopefully the link will help out some.

ps, whats the deal with the purple under all the leaves?
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i had some leafs do this and was told it was due to an un-balanced ph.
do you happen to know the ph of the water he uses?
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i had some leafs do this and was told it was due to an un-balanced ph.
do you happen to know the ph of the water he uses?
just called and asked he said it is PH 7.0 and is only using bottled water now, but in the past has let the tap water sit for 2 days or so before watering.

When checking the run-off is it a much better Ph check than using a soil meter (one that sticks into the ground and gives a reading) i know he has one of those and that is what is giving the PH 7.0 reading while the water has been seen to be at 6.4 or so when checked with this same meter.

I ma not sure if this has anything to do with the purple but the strain is called blue-god (mix of blueberry and BC god)

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just called and asked he said it is PH 7.0 and is only using bottled water now, but in the past has let the tap water sit for 2 days or so before watering.

When checking the run-off is it a much better Ph check than using a soil meter (one that sticks into the ground and gives a reading) i know he has one of those and that is what is giving the PH 7.0 reading while the water has been seen to be at 6.4 or so when checked with this same meter.

I ma not sure if this has anything to do with the purple but the strain is called blue-god (mix of blueberry and BC god)

a run off test is better imo, and 7 is a little high. chances are you might have a ph problem, might have to flush with ph corrected water.

do a soil run off test and let us know what it comes up to
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most certainly a ph issue here the wild leaf twisting is always the give away & defeciencies are beginning to lockout, phosphorus & nitrogen are already locked out

the probe ph meters are useless, IMO, you really should pick up a chemy PH test kit from the pet shop for $8 this runoff test is important, I/we already know there is a ph issue so he needs to learn how to confirm the PH issue


complete a soil runoff PH test.......
with PH corrected water (6.5-6.8PH for soil ) pour enough water in the pots so the water runs out the bottom of the pot ...collect & test the PH of this runoff water....post both the watering going in the pots and the runoff ph
If the PH reading is out of optimum range 6.5-6.8 PH, you need to flush your plant.
Flush with PH corrected water, till in optimum PH range, 3 times the volume of the pots is the rule of thumb but may require much more flushing if the rootball is thick & sour
EG: 1 gal pot = 3 gal. flush
add 1/2 strength PH balanced nutes to the last gallon of the flush.

if any of this sounds confusing there is a streaming PH/flushing video on my site that you find helpful
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most certainly a ph issue here the wild leaf twisting is always the give away & defeciencies are beginning to lockout, phosphorus & nitrogen are already locked out

the probe ph meters are useless, IMO, you really should pick up a chemy PH test kit from the pet shop for $8 this runoff test is important, I/we already know there is a ph issue so he needs to learn how to confirm the PH issue


complete a soil runoff PH test.......
with PH corrected water (6.5-6.8PH for soil ) pour enough water in the pots so the water runs out the bottom of the pot ...collect & test the PH of this runoff water....post both the watering going in the pots and the runoff ph
If the PH reading is out of optimum range 6.5-6.8 PH, you need to flush your plant.
Flush with PH corrected water, till in optimum PH range, 3 times the volume of the pots is the rule of thumb but may require much more flushing if the rootball is thick & sour
EG: 1 gal pot = 3 gal. flush
add 1/2 strength PH balanced nutes to the last gallon of the flush.

if any of this sounds confusing there is a streaming PH/flushing video on my site that you find helpful
unfortunately all of it sounds confusing me to so to the website i go. Can my buddy use PH down, will that help?
 
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Can my buddy use PH down, will that help
you cant do anything to fix this until you know the soil runoff PH reading, at this time, you dont know wether your ph is up or down? so arbitrarilly adding anything will make this worse

generally speaking flushing the plant with ph balanced tap water will fix most ph issues
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ok gotchya. Unfortunately, It was just watered yesterday so i dont think it can be flushed now or can it be? AM i at risk for overwatering or is this an acceptable time to do it
 
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im pretty sure it can be flushed whenever. the sooner the better.
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Aight guys, so today the plant was flushed and the PH of the soil was checked with an PH test kit from the Pet store. The Ph of the soil was quite high (7.?) it was lowered to 6.6 and also a additional few gallons of PH adjusted water was made so it doesn't need to be done in the future.


How long will it take for the plant to be rejuvenated to full health, or atleats how long is normal? The plant was not flushed out with any hydrogen peroxide as it wasnt readily available at the time and nutes were not added just to ensure nute burn wasnt a factor. WOuld it of been smart to apply a half serving of nutes and Peroxide? And do you think this will make a big difference in recovery time?

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Aight guys, so today the plant was flushed and the PH of the soil was checked with an PH test kit from the Pet store. The Ph of the soil was quite high (7.?) it was lowered to 6.6 and also a additional few gallons of PH adjusted water was made so it doesn't need to be done in the future.


How long will it take for the plant to be rejuvenated to full health, or atleats how long is normal? The plant was not flushed out with any hydrogen peroxide as it wasnt readily available at the time and nutes were not added just to ensure nute burn wasnt a factor. WOuld it of been smart to apply a half serving of nutes and Peroxide? And do you think this will make a big difference in recovery time?

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as long as you mix your nutes right it dosent matter how many gallons you water with, i would have watered the last gallon with 1/2 strength nutes
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the peroxide helps give oxygen to the roots after being flooded with that much water. so it wouldn't hurt to give it a little peroxide.
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