Droopy leaves...but I did not think I overwatered...

Cez · #1 (**permalink**) 11-21-2007, 08:33 PM

These plants are WW and have been growing for about 25days or so, I have been very careful not to overwater...so I thought( I have used search and keep coming back to overwatering) Could have overwatered or is there something else to look at too?

droopy.jpg

droopy2.jpg

These pics were taken a few mins after the lights kicked on and normally will be back normal in a few hrs, but not sure if this is normal or not?

CEZ

Cez · #2 (**permalink**) 11-22-2007, 06:15 PM

Could I have Mag def? Anyone?

sirdoobalot · #3 (**permalink**) 11-22-2007, 07:08 PM

Plants look pretty good to me. I don't see any deficiency from the photos. How are the leaves looking an hour after the lights are on and just before the next water cycle. It's normal for the leaves to droop when the lights are off and once they're back on it takes awhile for them to perk up.

Cez · #4 (**permalink**) 11-22-2007, 08:19 PM

well these pics were taken about 3hrs after the lights came on and the one with the leaf I noticed little brown spots starting to form on some of the leafs.

Quick rundown:
Fox Farm Ocean forrest soil
Ph runoff is 6.6
lighting 600w mh
I have not fertilized yet? Could this be my problem?

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Any help is greatly apprishiated

SnowViper · #5 (**permalink**) 11-22-2007, 08:53 PM

Too hot maybe?

ChilliWilly · #6 (**permalink**) 11-22-2007, 10:52 PM

They look pretty healthy, apart from a touch of overwatering? Quite big pots for the size of plants, maybe they are staying a bit damp at the bottom of the pots?

sirdoobalot · #7 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 09:00 AM

Ya, they just look like they're a bit over watered and I would start them on 1/4 strength nutes they look like they're ready for them.

Good luck

brokencage · #8 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 09:31 AM

sorry guys look at the soil in the pics.under watering will cause droopy leaves to.They look UNDER waterd to me bro.They also look like they could use abit of feeding.starting to look abit light colored

ChilliWilly · #9 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brokencage

sorry guys look at the soil in the pics.under watering will cause droopy leaves to.They look UNDER waterd to me bro.They also look like they could use abit of feeding.starting to look abit light colored

that's the thing, especially in big pots the top of the soil can be dry while the bottom of the pot is still damp. If you give them a small amount of water every time the top of the soil is dry, the bottom never drys out, and the roots are starved of oxygen. If the problem was underwatering, they would recover quickly after watering

sirdoobalot · #10 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChilliWilly

that's the thing, especially in big pots the top of the soil can be dry while the bottom of the pot is still damp. If you give them a small amount of water every time the top of the soil is dry, the bottom never drys out, and the roots are starved of oxygen. If the problem was underwatering, they would recover quickly after watering

I agree totally.

Cez · #11 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 09:38 PM

thanks for all the help so far guys...well Im at a loss for how much to water? I felt like I was being stingy with the water but seems like I may have not been enough. So how much water does one plant require? should 1gal feed them all?

thanks again

sidious · #12 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 10:27 PM

Well here's my 2 cents worth, up to you whether to use this info or not...........but hey I'm bored and it's a sat night, and I'm getting drunk........

I can see both sides of this arguement, droppy leaves are caused by both, overwatering and underwatering, from what you see in the photos it could be either, what I'd do if I were you, would be to flush them all...........sounds like madness, but the plants can easily take it, they may slow growth by about 3-4 days but at least then you'll know where your at.

I'd also remove them the saucers underneath them, just so that no excess water sits there, which could lead to a bit of root rot, let the water run out, as the plants use the water, the leaves will start to perk up, when they do, feel the pot, feel the weight of it, and get used to what it feels like............sounds weird but I just water my plants, based on the weight of the pot, and what the leaves look like...........also the pinkey test, just pop ur pinkey in, and if it's damp, they're fine, if it dry, then water..............pots that size I add about 2 litres in a sitting...........and if it ran out the bottom, then I stopped................hope that helps mate...........Peace out.............Sid

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#1 (permalink) 11-21-2007, 08:33 PM
Cez Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 250	Droopy leaves...but I did not think I overwatered... These plants are WW and have been growing for about 25days or so, I have been very careful not to overwater...so I thought( I have used search and keep coming back to overwatering) Could have overwatered or is there something else to look at too? droopy.jpg droopy2.jpg These pics were taken a few mins after the lights kicked on and normally will be back normal in a few hrs, but not sure if this is normal or not? CEZ

#2 (permalink) 11-22-2007, 06:15 PM
Cez Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 250	Could I have Mag def? Anyone?

#3 (permalink) 11-22-2007, 07:08 PM
sirdoobalot Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 93	Plants look pretty good to me. I don't see any deficiency from the photos. How are the leaves looking an hour after the lights are on and just before the next water cycle. It's normal for the leaves to droop when the lights are off and once they're back on it takes awhile for them to perk up.

#4 (permalink) 11-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Cez Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 250	well these pics were taken about 3hrs after the lights came on and the one with the leaf I noticed little brown spots starting to form on some of the leafs. Quick rundown: Fox Farm Ocean forrest soil Ph runoff is 6.6 lighting 600w mh I have not fertilized yet? Could this be my problem? a.jpg b.jpg c.jpg d.jpg Any help is greatly apprishiated

#5 (permalink) 11-22-2007, 08:53 PM
SnowViper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SKrew the wheat lets grow weed Posts: 195	Too hot maybe?

#6 (permalink) 11-22-2007, 10:52 PM
ChilliWilly Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 104	They look pretty healthy, apart from a touch of overwatering? Quite big pots for the size of plants, maybe they are staying a bit damp at the bottom of the pots?

#7 (permalink) 11-23-2007, 09:00 AM
sirdoobalot Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 93	Ya, they just look like they're a bit over watered and I would start them on 1/4 strength nutes they look like they're ready for them. Good luck

#8 (permalink) 11-23-2007, 09:31 AM
brokencage Red Neck Weed wrangler. Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 546	sorry guys look at the soil in the pics.under watering will cause droopy leaves to.They look UNDER waterd to me bro.They also look like they could use abit of feeding.starting to look abit light colored

#11 (permalink) 11-23-2007, 09:38 PM
Cez Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 250	thanks for all the help so far guys...well Im at a loss for how much to water? I felt like I was being stingy with the water but seems like I may have not been enough. So how much water does one plant require? should 1gal feed them all? thanks again

#12 (permalink) 11-23-2007, 10:27 PM
sidious Old School Stoner Join Date: May 2002 Location: 1060 West Addison, Chicago IL Posts: 7,338	Well here's my 2 cents worth, up to you whether to use this info or not...........but hey I'm bored and it's a sat night, and I'm getting drunk........ I can see both sides of this arguement, droppy leaves are caused by both, overwatering and underwatering, from what you see in the photos it could be either, what I'd do if I were you, would be to flush them all...........sounds like madness, but the plants can easily take it, they may slow growth by about 3-4 days but at least then you'll know where your at. I'd also remove them the saucers underneath them, just so that no excess water sits there, which could lead to a bit of root rot, let the water run out, as the plants use the water, the leaves will start to perk up, when they do, feel the pot, feel the weight of it, and get used to what it feels like............sounds weird but I just water my plants, based on the weight of the pot, and what the leaves look like...........also the pinkey test, just pop ur pinkey in, and if it's damp, they're fine, if it dry, then water..............pots that size I add about 2 litres in a sitting...........and if it ran out the bottom, then I stopped................hope that helps mate...........Peace out.............Sid __________________ www.geocities.com/quickgrowguide/ "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

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