help please

Smoka~Cola · #1 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 05:22 PM

GG

I need you again man sorry. I was blazin last nite and grabbed the wrong ferts for my budin babes, I give the girls a good shot of veg ferts by mistake, im in bud man

what to do, did i wreck the babes

peace out

Num · #2 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 05:30 PM

lol is np m8 - u could raise the ph over 6.5 so not as much N is available to the plant, or just give them a good flush.
i use veg feed into mid flower cos i find it stops the deficiencies u usually see after stretching with high P K feed.

plants also like N in the final stage of flowering but mine get fk all lol only water

u'll find if the leaves are very dark green, ie too much N, the buds developement will be slower & not as frosty.
too much N in finished plants makes the bud rough as fk to toke & the fker keeps going out

if in doubt, flush it out

Ganja Guerrilla · #3 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 05:31 PM

if your still using the high nitrogen content MG ferts, it could inhibit flowering or cause the plant to revert to the veg cycle

Nitrogen is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 6.0-8.0. you would need to go so high with this PH raising to slow down nitrogen it would cause you additional problems ...lockout for certain

flush......you know the drill

Smoka~Cola · #4 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 06:07 PM

thanks guys I will flush

GG I read the harsh posts around here lately from the lamers
no one fixes plants like you do , i cruz the place every day you have an undeniable track record dude they are all noobies man, shame there are soooo many rude people comin here now

late

Grower27 · #5 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoka~Cola

GG I read the harsh posts around here lately from the lamers
no one fixes plants like you do , i cruz the place every day you have an undeniable track record dude they are all noobies man, shame there are soooo many rude people comin here now

late

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Give GG some slack, he's deserved it by helping people time and time again here... I don't think I'd even visit this section of GC if it wasn't for seeking HIS advice.
IMO he has every right to get upset when someone challenges him, especially when the person challenging has no back up to his statements.
If they ban GG for things like this it would be a HUGE detriment to this forum.

Gamarglephunk · #6 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grower27

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Give GG some slack, he's deserved it by helping people time and time again here... I don't think I'd even visit this section of GC if it wasn't for seeking HIS advice.
IMO he has every right to get upset when someone challenges him, especially when the person challenging has no back up to his statements.
If they ban GG for things like this it would be a HUGE detriment to this forum.

damn straight.

420freedme · #7 (**permalink**) 08-16-2007, 07:26 PM

Mirical Grow contains UREA. No good to weed. Seeings I'm so () you can google it or keep feeding them urea.

The plants talk and tell you what to do.
You must learn their language.

Smoka~Cola · #8 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 12:57 AM

So I googled as you smugly suggested, BAD ADVICE DUDE

so organic ferts are bad? comeon man!

Urea is the only form of the 4 sources of nitrogen that is considered "organic"
Urea is the form of nitrogen that doesnt burn the plants

There is no difference between the ammonium (NH4+) or nitrate (NO3-) that enters the plant from commercial fertilizer and that produced from natural products such as manure, crop residues or organic fertilizers.

dont argue with me dude like you do everyone else, I brought you the link argue with colorado state university
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/Crops/00550.html

Some plants prefer the ammonium form of N, and others like to take up nitrate first. The majority appear to show no real preference, or research has not been completed that shows a preference exists.
Auburn EDU.
http://www.ag.auburn.edu/aaes/commun...98/tomato.html

then I pm'd GG this is copy & paste:

Quote:

mg ferts contains more urea than amonium nitrate the other source of nitrogen in mg
9.2 urea nitrogen & Urea doesnt burn
MG ferts contains 5.8% ammonia nitrogen which burns plants & is only good for warm weather
so basically MIRACLE GROW puts in more nitrogen on the organic side than the chemical side for less burning....

and you dude got it backwards duh! & you tell GG hes inexperienced, man thats totally lame
YO dude Ill stick with my dog GG

420freedme · #9 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 01:14 AM

Argue? Your funny.

In your post it states," SOME PLANTS PEFER THE AMMONIUM FORM OF N," GUESS WHICH ONE DON't.

GG you said they would try ferts before bio w/gnats. They did, but we figured it out zears ago.

Smoka~Cola · #10 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 01:31 AM

man your being selective, it also says research has not been completed that shows a preference exists.

show me your research facts not your opinion dude, that says MJ doesnt like urea "organic nitrogen" please thats ridiculous our organic brothers know thats nuts
show us your facts to prove your right dude & that would mean that organic ferts are bad by your logic since urea is the only organic form of nitrogen

you 2 seem more interested in having the last word , than backing up these lame statements and even worse you dont seem to care about the plants just double talk to make you sound correct

start posting FACT that can be decided by us stop thinking were going to take your word
no wonder GG got pissed are you 2 cops trying to wreck grows I mean REALLY

Smoka~Cola · #11 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 01:48 AM

I thought this thru

if this board and the moderators find ganja guerrilla at fault and not these 2 idiots trolling for trouble, looking to flame GG, this board aint worth being at man, the 2 new self proclaimed DOCS are trying to fuckup your grows and GG deliberately

this jerkoff urgreatestfear has been in every thread that was shut down by a mod that GG got tangled in

you mods need to step up and control this room, its getting nasty around here

now fuck you 2 lamers Im outta here....

420freedme · #12 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 01:51 AM

Thread reported.

Smoka~Cola · #13 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 01:52 AM

fuckyou ...rat

Like I Said Your Trying To Get People In Trouble

420freedme · #14 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smoka~Cola

fuckyou ...rat

Like I Said Your Trying To Get People In Trouble

mmmmk. I just read where you wanted a mod to straighten this out?

ricslat · #15 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 02:26 PM

GET THESE 2 FUCKS OFF THE BOARD ...I GOT Q'S FOR GG ...isn't there a way to block certain people from posting on one's thread??? both these guys need to be culled from our gene pool now before they taint our strains!!!

eg of 420's advice

Pet stores are good place to get ph down cheap. Here grow shoppes are high as hell w/there prices

pet stores price...1.25 oz for 4.99$

link GG sent me... 32 oz 12 bucks

which is cheaper 420???

Being disrespectful doesn't float here. Consider this your warning - TokinBlue

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#1 (permalink) 08-16-2007, 05:22 PM
Smoka~Cola Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 31	help please GG I need you again man sorry. I was blazin last nite and grabbed the wrong ferts for my budin babes, I give the girls a good shot of veg ferts by mistake, im in bud man what to do, did i wreck the babes peace out

#2 (permalink) 08-16-2007, 05:30 PM
Num Vorsprung durch teknik Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: nwuk Posts: 657	lol is np m8 - u could raise the ph over 6.5 so not as much N is available to the plant, or just give them a good flush. i use veg feed into mid flower cos i find it stops the deficiencies u usually see after stretching with high P K feed. plants also like N in the final stage of flowering but mine get fk all lol only water u'll find if the leaves are very dark green, ie too much N, the buds developement will be slower & not as frosty. too much N in finished plants makes the bud rough as fk to toke & the fker keeps going out if in doubt, flush it out __________________ < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWXiesK7Hw > *http://www.DIYcanna.biz*

#3 (permalink) 08-16-2007, 05:31 PM
Ganja Guerrilla www.ganjaguerrilla.net Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,822	if your still using the high nitrogen content MG ferts, it could inhibit flowering or cause the plant to revert to the veg cycle Nitrogen is absorbed best in soil at a ph level of 6.0-8.0. you would need to go so high with this PH raising to slow down nitrogen it would cause you additional problems ...lockout for certain flush......you know the drill __________________ Diagnose your own plants...Visit my site www.ganjaguerrilla.net Last edited by Ganja Guerrilla; 08-16-2007 at 05:35 PM.

#4 (permalink) 08-16-2007, 06:07 PM
Smoka~Cola Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 31	thanks guys I will flush GG I read the harsh posts around here lately from the lamers no one fixes plants like you do , i cruz the place every day you have an undeniable track record dude they are all noobies man, shame there are soooo many rude people comin here now late

#7 (permalink) 08-16-2007, 07:26 PM
420freedme Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kirara's Posts: 674	Mirical Grow contains UREA. No good to weed. Seeings I'm so () you can google it or keep feeding them urea. The plants talk and tell you what to do. You must learn their language.

#9 (permalink) 08-17-2007, 01:14 AM
420freedme Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kirara's Posts: 674	Argue? Your funny. In your post it states," SOME PLANTS PEFER THE AMMONIUM FORM OF N," GUESS WHICH ONE DON't. GG you said they would try ferts before bio w/gnats. They did, but we figured it out zears ago.

#10 (permalink) 08-17-2007, 01:31 AM
Smoka~Cola Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 31	man your being selective, it also says research has not been completed that shows a preference exists. show me your research facts not your opinion dude, that says MJ doesnt like urea "organic nitrogen" please thats ridiculous our organic brothers know thats nuts show us your facts to prove your right dude & that would mean that organic ferts are bad by your logic since urea is the only organic form of nitrogen you 2 seem more interested in having the last word , than backing up these lame statements and even worse you dont seem to care about the plants just double talk to make you sound correct start posting FACT that can be decided by us stop thinking were going to take your word no wonder GG got pissed are you 2 cops trying to wreck grows I mean REALLY

#11 (permalink) 08-17-2007, 01:48 AM
Smoka~Cola Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 31	I thought this thru if this board and the moderators find ganja guerrilla at fault and not these 2 idiots trolling for trouble, looking to flame GG, this board aint worth being at man, the 2 new self proclaimed DOCS are trying to fuckup your grows and GG deliberately this jerkoff urgreatestfear has been in every thread that was shut down by a mod that GG got tangled in you mods need to step up and control this room, its getting nasty around here now fuck you 2 lamers Im outta here....

#12 (permalink) 08-17-2007, 01:51 AM
420freedme Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kirara's Posts: 674	Thread reported.

#13 (permalink) 08-17-2007, 01:52 AM
Smoka~Cola Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 31	fuckyou ...rat Like I Said Your Trying To Get People In Trouble

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#15 (permalink) 08-17-2007, 02:26 PM
ricslat Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 283	GET THESE 2 FUCKS OFF THE BOARD ...I GOT Q'S FOR GG ...isn't there a way to block certain people from posting on one's thread??? both these guys need to be culled from our gene pool now before they taint our strains!!! eg of 420's advice Pet stores are good place to get ph down cheap. Here grow shoppes are high as hell w/there prices pet stores price...1.25 oz for 4.99$ link GG sent me... 32 oz 12 bucks which is cheaper 420??? Being disrespectful doesn't float here. Consider this your warning - TokinBlue Last edited by TokinBlue; 08-17-2007 at 10:15 PM.