Are my plants stretching

[virginharvester]

I don't have pics but could get them if it matters. They look healthy overall just tall and lanky. They are getting around 6 hours direct hot summer sun per day. They are 30 days out of the ground. Two days ago they were 13 and 14 inches tall. Today they are 16 and 17 inches. There are four branch sites(nodes?) between the ground and top of stem. The strain is 75% sativa. They are in good organic soil with extra mychorrizae and I give them organic veg nutes every other watering.

So, if they are stretching what can I do and what are the problems this will cause the plants or my harvest?


Also, it's kind of strange looking but all the sides branches are showing 3 point leaves. That's not a sign of it being male is it? I know back in the day we used to say 3 point leaves mean it's more likely to be male.

And, they are in 5 gallon pots but the soil seems to have contracted a little since I planted them so that it looks like there's more like 4 gallons of soil. These plants are not supposed to be ready til end of October. That's a long time in 4 gallon pots huh? I sure don't want to transplant them and adding more soil to the pot now won't help the roots in October. Will 4 gallons be enough?

[Ganja Guerrilla]

comeon on dude pics always matter


sativas tend to be lanky plants & your only getting 6 hrs direct sun, that could play into the situation.

3 leaves is not an indicator of sex.....as the plant matures it will increase the leaf blades 3-5 then to 7-9-11

if your soil has compacted down (did you add perilite) and you have only 3 gallons of soil ....let the pots dry out completely.... the root ball will pop out easily in one piece, add a gallon of soil to the bottom of the pot, replace the rootball and water well

[virginharvester]

Ganja, I used Happy Frog soil and there's plenty of perlite in it. I think it was just so fluffy to start with that when I watered it it compacted. I remember 5 gallon pots feeling pretty light. Next time I will press the soil down when I make new pots.

Just to clarify, right now I have about 4 gallons of soil in 5 gallon pots so it's not that bad. If this were an indica likely to be ready end of September I wouldn't worry about it. But Dutch Passion says first of November and I would think that gives lots of time for plant to way outgrow a 4 gallon pot.

But I know nothing about transplanting and don't want to hurt the plants or set them back. If there is much risk maybe I should just leave them. A healthy plant in 4 gallon would be better than a sick or dying plant in 5- I don't exactly have a green thumb. If they look like they are outgrowing this soil level in a couple months I could cut the bottom out and set these pots into another pot with a couple gallons of soil.

Thanks again.

[virginharvester]

One other thing Ganja, there are a lot of plants around my site and they help conceal my pots- When the plants are taller I will put the pots in the ground. But last night I noticed most of the plants around have lots of holes in the leaves and seem to be a favorite food of some kind of insects. My plants show a few leaves that have been munched on but nothing serious yet and nothing like the other plants. Should I consider spaying with neem oil anyway? I cannot find any info that says oil harms a plant, changes the taste, nothing. Maybe I should use it?

[Ganja Guerrilla]

If there is much risk maybe I should just leave them. A healthy plant in 4 gallon would be better than a sick or dying plant in 5- I don't exactly have a green thumb. If they look like they are outgrowing this soil level in a couple months I could cut the bottom out and set these pots into another pot with a couple gallons of soil

I do have a green thumb & why Im here helping, I wouldnt have told you to transplant in the above post if it were detrimental.....if you follow the instructions to completely dry out the pot, the plant wont even know you pulled it out.Now is the time to get this shit situated, not after flowering begins
stop trying to get me to convince you , Im not going to explain or defend my advice to you, or talk you into something your skidish about.....all that information is availble on the board already do a search....
read books or watch grow videos


as to neem oil preventative measures yes

dont worry about the other plants & thier holes,where I live there are blackberries every 20ft... I plant within inches of blackberries in the swamp & blackberries are the favorite of sider mites....this may sound crazy but its not....the mites prefere the blackberry so I make it easy for them to choose

I neem oil for preventative measures & have no outdoor mite issues with 1000's on the plants within inches

[virginharvester]

Originally Posted by Ganja Guerrilla

I do have a green thumb & why Im here helping....
stop trying to get me to convince you , Im not going to explain or defend my advice to you, or talk you into something your skidish about.....all that information is availble on the board already do a search....
read books or watch grow videos

That's ridiculous and I'm sure I'm misunderstanding what you meant. I didn't question your knowledge or ask you to convince me of anything. The only thing I inferred is that I'm new, inexperienced, and don't want to try anything that requires much talent or risk, especially since there's really not a problem, yet. That's not a knock against you. But I have a lot of time, energy and money devoted to these two plants already and I'm going to make sure I'm clear on something.

[Ganja Guerrilla]

That's ridiculous and I'm sure I'm misunderstanding what you meant. I didn't question your knowledge or ask you to convince me of anything

Do not tell me my post is ridiculous & Stop embarrassing yourself!
Your not misunderstanding anything THIS time


You questioned my statement that ocean forest had ferts pre-added
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...ml#post1666799

In this post I answered your questions and recommended that you pop them out and add soil now instead of having issues later, you then questioned my response with

If there is much risk maybe I should just leave them. A healthy plant in 4 gallon would be better than a sick or dying plant in 5- I don't exactly have a green thumb. If they look like they are outgrowing this soil level in a couple months I could cut the bottom out and set these pots into another pot with a couple gallons of soil

then you went back to this neem shit AGAIN!


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I answered this here:
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...ml#post1675565

and you talked about neem preventative use here:
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...eveloping.html

and just like an obnoxious c**t again here:
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...-o-d-help.html


so your either trying to jerk my chain, or your a jagoff running aound posting everywhere and not reading the responses to the questions you have asked,.......regardless I take offense...so my last statment to you... Imagine this in the voice of WC Fields................."Go away little boy ya bother me"

[virginharvester]

Originally Posted by Ganja Guerrilla

Do not tell me my post is ridiculous & Stop embarrassing yourself!
Your not misunderstanding anything THIS time


You questioned my statement that ocean forest had ferts pre-added
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...ml#post1666799

You mean where I said "I am under the impression from reading ingredients that Ocean Forest is organic with no fert additives, organic or otherwise. So how could he have nute burn unless he added it himself?"

Wow, can you imagine someone asking a question like this? Did you really take offense to something so simple? It's nothing but a request for information but your massive ego cannot handle that. Do you realize that many people with a lot of experience tell me organic nutes won't burn so that even if I realized the fish components of Ocean Forest are technically fertilizer why would I believe they are burning. But the fact is it HAD NOT occurred to me those additives are ferts although after your post I mentioned that that was interesting as if to imply, I LEARNED SOMETHING! Instead of saying something like "yeah, you have to think of the fish and crab they add as a fertilizer that even though it's organic it can still burn a young plant.", you get your feelings hurt.

In this post I answered your questions and recommended that you pop them out and add soil now instead of having issues later, you then questioned my response with

And you implied that you offered instructions how to do it. Sorry chief, "popping them out" is hardly directions I'm going to follow without some kind of explanation. And, please, accept my sincerest apology if the idea that it might be better for me to leave them as they are for now comes across as sedition to you.

then you went back to this neem shit AGAIN!


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I answered this here:
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...ml#post1675565

and you talked about neem preventative use here:
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...eveloping.html

and just like an obnoxious c**t again here:
http://forum.grasscity.com/sick-plan...-o-d-help.html

This is going to shock you but I honestly had not seen your answer on two of those threads or I would not have asked again. And one of them, where you berate another poster, you didn't field any question so I don't know why you include that link. I would say I appreciate your help but clearly that's not as meaningful as how much you appreciate giving it.

so your either trying to jerk my chain, or your a jagoff running aound posting everywhere and not reading the responses to the questions you have asked,.......regardless I take offense...so my last statment to you... Imagine this in the voice of WC Fields................."Go away little boy ya bother me"

I ask questions to learn. And if you or anyone here actually views my posts it's clear that normally I do check threads and say thanks. It seems to me that you take offense pretty often, especially when someone doesn't take your word as the only and highest authority, immediately.

You have actually PM'd me and told me I shouldn't be listening to someone's advice because they only have X number of posts. I mean, c'mon man, get over yourself.

And you can say whatever you choose to in response here. I'm finished "communicating" with you.

[Smoka~Cola]

I ask questions to learn. And if you or anyone here actually views my posts it's clear that normally I do check threads and say thanks

ya got probs dude .what are ya a girl

Ill give you a thumbs up too bro on the neem oil .it will be fun to see how many more times you ask
GG's rite man your obnoxious, you still wont listen and lets see you have finished communications with him after he said go away.

seems like you need the last word too

[Ganja Guerrilla]

leave the kid alone, I just wanted to stop the bull

[virginharvester]

Originally Posted by Smoka~Cola

ya got probs dude .what are ya a girl

Ill give you a thumbs up too bro on the neem oil .it will be fun to see how many more times you ask
GG's rite man your obnoxious, you still wont listen and lets see you have finished communications with him after he said go away.

seems like you need the last word too

I'm sure it's no coincidence ALL your posts are in this forum and 14 of 15 are in threads you're agreeing with GG's impeccable advice.

[Smoka~Cola]

in threads you're agreeing with GG's impeccable advice.

why wouldnt i ? dude saved my babies twice
im a groupie i read everthuing GG smoknVTEC direwolf posts these dudes are the bomb and your not besides bro I like a good argument im a troll

[Ganja Guerrilla]

I know several of the members here in real life
a few friends, my son & 2 nephews are on this board

leave the kid alone,

ryan ignore that statment...

[Mr.President]

my 2-cents:
dude you definatley are one some i need to get the last word in thing,
let it go, if you don't know what you are doing then just kick back and read the information its there for a reason, people are nice and like to help, if you are not going to listen then don't waste the time typing lame responses, just smoke that shitty dirt weed you are trying to grow, or go buy some mexican brick weed from the local con artist to lazy to work.

[NJtoker187]

HaHa.