brown spots after white ones

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For the last week or so, there has been a buildup of white material on the leaves, and at first I thought this was a sure sign of spidermites or a salt buildup. Now I check today and there are brown spots like decay happening around the middle of the leaf (only one so far, the others still have white spots and streaks though). Is this for sure spidermites or some kind of nutrient problem because I've checked for mites and never saw any.

[Ganja Guerrilla]

what kind of lites
are you misting the plants

can you post pics

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ill try to get a pic up later if i can, but the lights in use is a 30w daylight cfl with ballast and the plant seemed to like it after adding the ballast. It was under a cheaper 23w soft white cfl (before i knew the difference) for it's first couple weeks, then added the daylight cfl for a another two weeks and this week I added the ballast. The white specs began to appear around the 2nd and 3rd week, and though it appears to have reduced, the brown spots began to form.

I gave the plant a bath (dipping it upside down in a bucket of water) and the brown spots ceased on the leaf i discovered it on, but today, a few new spots appeared on another leaf.

Also I have been misting very often now since I realized the white spots were getting worse, especially after a day of no misting. I didn't realize though that the fert I was using said to not spray on the foliage, but it seems like that didn't matter since the brown spots began to appear after i removed the fert from the misting.

I'm going to spray my plants with a mix of onion and garlic boiled in water, as I heard this made a good natural pesticide, will it work or will i just be adding more problems cause it's breaking my heart seeing this happen to my first grow. And she was just starting to get big with 5 leaves and leaves growing at the nodes,

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here are some pics, the quality isn't that good since it's a camphone but i've marked the images to show where the damage is.





please someone help me save my baby, i swear, i'm going to use every pesticide i can but im gonna go natural cuz i don't want any chems ruinin it for the buds.

[chimera]

stop misting them, the white build up is salts and the brown spots are burns from misting/folair feeding.

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oooooohhh, well looks like my over reaction problem made the problem worse. i did the onion and garlic thing earlier, i hope i didn't just put the nail in the coffin. on a side note, i should've taken note of this before that the other plant which is near it seems to not have the white spots at all, in the case of mites, i figured it should've been infected as well.

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btw, in the third pic, the leaf came out very narrow and is folded in, is this any indication of a problem, i figured it just grew too fast and long since it's already longer then the leaves below it.

one last thing, is this plant an indica or sativa, it came from some real killer bud and sprouted from seed in only 8 hours or less of germination. i'm not good at identifying buds by highs plus it was so long ago i forgot, but because the leaf is so narrow, i figured it might just be an indica, or a hybrid.

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it looks like a hybrid

[Ganja Guerrilla]

your killing this plant with kindness & jumping to conclusions

overwatering(drooping & curling under) , misting, the garlic & onion, foliar feeding

btw, in the third pic, the leaf came out very narrow and is folded in

overwatering may have locked out some nutes, what you see and I do aswell in the 3rd pic is possible magnesium def.(serraded edges leaf margins curled upwards & possible lightening between the veins) I cant tell in the pics it maybe a reflection thing but it looks as if you may have some lighting between the viens of the leaf? or is that relection

if it is a lightening between the veins mix @ 1 teaspoon of epsomsalts per gallon of water & give it a small drink

edit: looks like a indaca dominant mix

[SuNLaNDSMoKe]

so instead of foliar feeding u simply pour the nutes into the ground or what?

[chimera]

Listen to GG, and yes, you disolve/mix your nutes in water and pour in the ground.

[SuNLaNDSMoKe]

alright thanks for clearing that up chimera

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Originally Posted by Ganja Guerrilla

your killing this plant with kindness & jumping to conclusions

overwatering(drooping & curling under) , misting, the garlic & onion, foliar feeding


overwatering may have locked out some nutes, what you see and I do aswell in the 3rd pic is possible magnesium def.(serraded edges leaf margins curled upwards & possible lightening between the veins) I cant tell in the pics it maybe a reflection thing but it looks as if you may have some lighting between the viens of the leaf? or is that relection

if it is a lightening between the veins mix @ 1 teaspoon of epsomsalts per gallon of water & give it a small drink

edit: looks like a indaca dominant mix

yea, it is lighter in the middle between each vein on the leaves (though the not as bad as the pic, there's too much light, but it is in a lighter shade). so thats a magnesium deficiency then, thanks for the help

i kinda freaked out when i first noticed the white spots and streaks on the leaves thinking it was mites and knowing they hate water, i sprayed more and more. As you can tell, i kept thinking i wasn't doing enough as the prob grew and only sprayed it more. I stopped though since yesterday and though the leaves have damaged a little more since with a few new spots, it wasn't as bad as yesterday when the majority of the spots came out overnight. i'm going to wait till tonightish or tomorrow to water with the epsom salt since its still a little too moist for another watering. I hope this helps, especially the moment I realized it was an indica, or indica dominant, i was so happy .

Btw, will damage done to these new and lower leaves this early in the plants life effect the quality of the buds in the end since I heard these leaves will eventually be shaded, and die off or can be used for clones.

Also if this plant does come out bad due to the conditions I've had it in, if i were to clone a cutting and start it from fresh (in good soil, ph maintained, the works), will the clone come out better then the mother cause that's what I'm planning on doing. I'm hoping that since this was my first grow and i kinda had no idea what i've been doing even after reading almost every article and tutorial there is. The worst part is my funding limitations which forced me to improvise everything, from 4 year old soil that was used for incense to a house lamp with a soft white cfl, this grow was shit from the start.

I was going to toss em out, especially after this plant in particular stretched too tall and collapsed on it's side. When I saw that, I was like, this is finished and didn't check it for a few days, leaving the light on for the other plant. Then a couple days later I check and this plant went from falling on it's side to the top growing a little more bending back up and the leaves facing the light again. When I saw that, I immediately held off my next sack of bud and bought supplies for the little soldier.

I'd eventually transfer it to a larger pot and this will probably be the worst way you'll ever hear someone transfer a plant. I smoked a spliff, then didn't even water the pot enough since the dirt would turn into mud. In a rush, I just grabbed into the pot, clamping my fingers around the soil and pulling the whole plant out, lol. I was out of patience after having to cut the other plants pot all the way through the sides since it was in a corn oil bottle with grooves. anyways, when i pulled it out, i felt a few roots rip and the dirt brokedown right in my hands exposing more roots. I panic and just threw it into the pot asap not caring if some of the roots bent and piled on soil and prayed.

I thought it was fucked, but the shocking part came a week later when this one began to grow big and fast compared to the other one that so far had much gentler treatment. Now this plant after all it's been through is still growing faster and larger then the other that came from the same bagseed. Even with the spots, new growth keeps on coming, which at the same time worries me. I've read somewhere that males usually grow bigger, faster, and mature earlier then females so if this is the bigger plant, is there a good chance i'm just tending for a useless male?