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Old 04-18-2007, 08:11 PM
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almost 3 weeks into flower...plant problems help please..(pics)

wats up everyone...

my plants looked like shit yester day cuz the dirt was sooo hard that the waster wasnt going anymore then an inch in the soil...they were droopy as hells some leaves died.they are looking way better then they did yesterday but now they twising...

i watered them with tiger bloom for the first time yesterday...they seemed to like it...

are the leaves fucked up because i didnt add PH up???? tiger bloom brings the ph down so is this from the ph or the nutes???

please help me....

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Old 04-18-2007, 08:37 PM
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posted some better pics now...
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did you check the PH of the run off? could be a tad nute burned, what strength did you give it?
 
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PH twisting...some of the leaf margins are curling under and the tips under aswell, this may also be the beginning of nitrogen toxicity, either way the answer is to flush

flush with PH corrected water 6.5-6.8PH range with 3 times the volume of your containers EG 2 gal pot = 6 gal flush

also read the soil runoff PH at both the beginning of the flush and the end of the flush to be certain your in range and to confirm the PH twisting

post pics again in a few days

and yes PH adjust your ferts solution, ferts are almost always acidic
 
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PH twisting...some of the leaf margins are curling under and the tips under aswell, this may also be the beginning of nitrogen toxicity, either way the answer is to flush

flush with PH corrected water 6.5-6.8PH range with 3 times the volume of your containers EG 2 gal pot = 6 gal flush

also read the soil runoff PH at both the beginning of the flush and the end of the flush to be certain your in range and to confirm the PH twisting

post pics again in a few days

and yes PH adjust your ferts solution, ferts are almost always acidic
Correct with one caveat, in hydro pH of nutes is seldom acidic enough, either way you should always check and adjust your pH of your water/nutes.
 
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A reason the soil may have been so hard might have been lack of water, like when an old pond dries up, makes it difficult to water, seems to run straight through without getting the soil wet........takes ages to get it to normal soil again..........also I noticed in pic one you mentioned Kush and WW...... are both these plants in the one pot? and if so, how large is the pot? as the pot maybe not big enough for 2 plants root systems, may also explain why they'd use a lot more water.............Peace out............Sid
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did you check the PH of the run off? could be a tad nute burned, what strength did you give it?
i dont have a PH meter....the p.k got 2 teaspoons per gallon and the w.w got 1.5 teaspoons per gallon.the 1st time i watered, that time it jus ran off the edge and went out the bottom...then i watered better with 1 teaspoon per gallon.and the soil soaked up most of that
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P...H twisting...some of the leaf margins are curling under and the tips under aswell, this may also be the beginning of nitrogen toxicity, either way the answer is to flush

flush with PH corrected water 6.5-6.8PH range with 3 times the volume of your containers EG 2 gal pot = 6 gal flush

also read the soil runoff PH at both the beginning of the flush and the end of the flush to be certain your in range and to confirm the PH twisting

post pics again in a few days

and yes PH adjust your ferts solution, ferts are almost always acidic
i have 10 gallon pots.....i cant flush with that much water...i will make the roof leak lol...i will flush them tho...wat kind of water has a good PH level???
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A reason the soil may have been so hard might have been lack of water, like when an old pond dries up, makes it difficult to water, seems to run straight through without getting the soil wet........takes ages to get it to normal soil again..........also I noticed in pic one you mentioned Kush and WW...... are both these plants in the one pot? and if so, how large is the pot? as the pot maybe not big enough for 2 plants root systems, may also explain why they'd use a lot more water.............Peace out............Sid
they are in different pots...they have about 10 gallons of soil in each pot...
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white widow yield-38.4 grams
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I'd say thy're prob short of water, especially if they're in such big pots, you say that if you flush them the roof will leak........you may need to get them into a bathtub inside if possible to flush, it'll do them the world of good..........get the feeling the lower root structure won't be getting enough water.......may droop slightly after flushing, but it'll bounce back............Peace out........Sid
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I'd say thy're prob short of water, especially if they're in such big pots, you say that if you flush them the roof will leak........you may need to get them into a bathtub inside if possible to flush, it'll do them the world of good..........get the feeling the lower root structure won't be getting enough water.......may droop slightly after flushing, but it'll bounce back............Peace out........Sid
man thats alota work to get them into a bathtub lol...but i will do it... where am i gna get 30 gallons of PH adjusted water wen i dnt have a ph meter??????
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white widow yield-38.4 grams
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man thats alota work to get them into a bathtub lol...but i will do it... where am i gna get 30 gallons of PH adjusted water wen i dnt have a ph meter??????
get a $5 PH kit from anywhere that sells aquarium or pond supplies

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i have 10 gallon pots.....i cant flush with that much water...i will make the roof leak lol
edit: if you do a soil runoff test when you start you will find it takes that much water & alot more in severe PH issues to actually correct the ph

gluck & dont cave the roof in

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wat??they are only 5 bucks???will walmart have them that cheap??
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man thats alota work to get them into a bathtub lol...but i will do it... where am i gna get 30 gallons of PH adjusted water wen i dnt have a ph meter??????
Don't know about stateside, but over here our tap waters ok to use after being left for 24 hours, or bottled water.....even phone the helpline number on the bottles to find off them the ph! ......I know that's costly for the bottled water, but waters cheaper to buy there than here..........and comes in fucking massive containers, like 2 gallon+ .............Peace out...........Sid
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Don't know about stateside, but over here our tap waters ok to use after being left for 24 hours, or bottled water.....even phone the helpline number on the bottles to find off them the ph! ......I know that's costly for the bottled water, but waters cheaper to buy there than here..........and comes in fucking massive containers, like 2 gallon+ .............Peace out...........Sid
wen i water i leave my water out for 24 hours.....i did the the 1st time i watered yesterday...but since none of that water got to roots i had to water again with tap watere that wasnt left out 4 24 hours....fuck! is that y my plants are doin this???yea water is cheap...ill use tap if i can tho
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$5 bucks will get you a chem test kit
but the pens are as cheap as $10

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but the pens are as cheap as $10

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will a chemical test kit be coo???how hard is it?
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