Female Ice four weeks into flowering

eatyourwordshul · #1 (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 02:03 PM

Hey,

I have got an Ice female four weeks into flowering who seems to be yellowing quite a lot, now i know yellowing is normal but aint it a bit early. Your responses and advice are very much appreciated.

Soil Ph is ok and im feeding with full strength Canna Terra Flores.

Cheers

its_420 · #2 (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 02:22 PM

WOW that bud looks amazing man. sorry no tech. help but +rep on the nice buds. how much u think ur gonna yeild from that?

eatyourwordshul · #3 (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 05:03 PM

Cheers its_420, first time grower so i dont have a clue what yield im guna get, 150g it says on the packet but i think that sounds a bit over the top.

Im getting some PK 13,14 this week so that should fatten up the buds even more, just hope i can get an answer on this yellowing..

trikky · #4 (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 06:47 PM

Looks to me like a nitrogen deficiency due to the buds swelling up and using all the nitrogen in the leaves. Try supplementing it with a little nitrogen for a little while longer before you flush, cause it seems a tad early for them to be yellowing that much.

chimera · #5 (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 10:10 PM

Get a little blood meal, mix it in water and wait 1 hour and feed also, you migh want to throw in a little epsom salt, by the way before you do all that, did you check the pH?

On a lighter note thaat is some dank ass looking buds, I got to get me some of that. What kind of light are you using?

eatyourwordshul · #6 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 09:38 AM

Cheers for your advice, i got her under a 600w hps. Yeah im happy with how the bud is coming on because i have still got the PK 13,14 to give her which is meant to really fatten up those buds.

Just hope i can sort this yellowing out.

Yeah Chimera the Ph is fine according to my soil Ph meter which i trust less an less each day!!! Where can i get blood meal from? hydro shop??

Trikky, If i supplement with the nitrogen wont it decrease bud development??? I get what your saying though.

chimera · #7 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eatyourwordshul

Cheers for your advice, i got her under a 600w hps. Yeah im happy with how the bud is coming on because i have still got the PK 13,14 to give her which is meant to really fatten up those buds.

Just hope i can sort this yellowing out.

Yeah Chimera the Ph is fine according to my soil Ph meter which i trust less an less each day!!! Where can i get blood meal from? hydro shop??

Trikky, If i supplement with the nitrogen wont it decrease bud development??? I get what your saying though.

Hydro store works and most hardware stores, I got mine at ACE, so your pH is 6.5 and have you calibrated it or is it one of those rapitest peices of garbage? Then yes definitely give her a bit of epsom salts, a good rule on epsom salt(magnesium provider) is every 2-3 weeks, cause most ferts don't have enough for MJ.

To answer for trikky, if your plant is def in N this early then that will decrease bud development. A lot of MJ growers supliment with a little nitro mid way through flower to keep the yellowing to a minimum.

eatyourwordshul · #8 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 04:42 PM

yeah Chimera my soil Ph meter is a piece of garbage, i also got a hanna Ph meter to measure my solution with too but it needs calibrating, so i been using liquid Ph checkers to check my solution but im stuck on checking my soil because thats the best soil Ph meter my hydro shop gets in ab it was only £6. I need to get a quality one.

Can i just measure the run-off for now. An flush if my Ph is out???

trikky · #9 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 08:39 PM

What Chimera said.

Good luck dude, great looking grow though.

cammac · #10 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 11:33 AM

Hey dude

Im a first time grower with a few BUbblegum that im growing under a 600w hps.

Im having the same problems as you are but even earlier -

check this thread (wrong forum I know :/)

http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ower-pics.html

eatyourwordshul · #11 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 12:42 PM

Cammac, just checked your grow an if im reading it right you say your water is 6.2 before nutes, im thinkin you might need to raise the Ph of your solution. Whats Your run-off Ph level??? You might need to flush, Im no expert though fella.

I think im going to have to flush too as im worried my Ph meter is reading higher than what it really is!

Although I think i got a magnesium lockout as loads of leaf edges are curling upwards, could this be due to the tap water where i live as i have heard it gets locked out by calcium.

Im getting Ph buffers to calibrate my hanna Ph meter today.

Oh yeah cammac whats that bubblegum been like to grow, thats what im thinkin of gettin for my next grow.

cammac · #12 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 01:11 PM

Yeah really easy bro -

They have loved that 600 mate

Vegged for 3 weeks . Today will be day 25 of flower. Mine have grown quite branchy (theres prob around 15 - 20 and the main cola -

Hasnt stunk as much as I thought it would but I am starting to notice it now :/

The have the most beautiful smell when you touch th eplant though mate - its like heaven even the Mrs who isnt a big smoker said that if that was a fruit she would never stop eating them haha .

Im expecting anouther 4 weeks at least - I'll try borrow a cam and get some decent pics

Hope you get your nutes sorted brother.

I am going to go with some Dolomite lime (sort the ph put a bit) and some shit called Urea to bring up the nitrogen.

I have also got some shcultz bloom plus which has ratios of 11.35.11.

Might give them with half a ml of potash - Fuck it see what happens

Your babies look nice dude keep us posted

eatyourwordshul · #13 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 01:36 PM

Oh yeah. well mine have been really stinky since the first two weeks in veg!!!! They smell absolutely amazing though.

Yeah get some good pics because i want to see how yours turn out.

Can anyone tell me if im right about my magnesium lockout an whats causing it..

Cheers guys.

Red Eye · #14 (**permalink**) 01-29-2007, 01:14 AM

I have heard that Canna nutrients lead to Nitrogen deficiencies. I have found no other reference to this other than your posting here.

I worried about it too, cuz im going to be using Canna Aquas for my first indoor grow.

eatyourwordshul · #15 (**permalink**) 01-29-2007, 01:36 PM

Well i have had leaf yellowing on the bottom sets all the way through the grow, so that could be the reason, but it could also be that my Ph meter was out of calibration.

My hydro guy says it sounds like im over-watering the plant too, just because it only needs watering every four days, he says i should water it a litre every day, but i wouldnt get a run-off then and i thought that u always have to water so that all the soil right to the bottom is watered. Otherwise roots will up-turn.

Im confused.

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#2 (permalink) 01-24-2007, 02:22 PM
its_420 smokes for kids who cant! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: california Posts: 977	WOW that bud looks amazing man. sorry no tech. help but +rep on the nice buds. how much u think ur gonna yeild from that?

#3 (permalink) 01-24-2007, 05:03 PM
eatyourwordshul Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16	Cheers its_420, first time grower so i dont have a clue what yield im guna get, 150g it says on the packet but i think that sounds a bit over the top. Im getting some PK 13,14 this week so that should fatten up the buds even more, just hope i can get an answer on this yellowing..

#4 (permalink) 01-24-2007, 06:47 PM
trikky Glassblower Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In the Redwoods, torchin' it. Posts: 6,165	Looks to me like a nitrogen deficiency due to the buds swelling up and using all the nitrogen in the leaves. Try supplementing it with a little nitrogen for a little while longer before you flush, cause it seems a tad early for them to be yellowing that much. __________________

#5 (permalink) 01-24-2007, 10:10 PM
chimera Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,347	Get a little blood meal, mix it in water and wait 1 hour and feed also, you migh want to throw in a little epsom salt, by the way before you do all that, did you check the pH? On a lighter note thaat is some dank ass looking buds, I got to get me some of that. What kind of light are you using?

#6 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 09:38 AM
eatyourwordshul Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16	Cheers for your advice, i got her under a 600w hps. Yeah im happy with how the bud is coming on because i have still got the PK 13,14 to give her which is meant to really fatten up those buds. Just hope i can sort this yellowing out. Yeah Chimera the Ph is fine according to my soil Ph meter which i trust less an less each day!!! Where can i get blood meal from? hydro shop?? Trikky, If i supplement with the nitrogen wont it decrease bud development??? I get what your saying though.

#8 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 04:42 PM
eatyourwordshul Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16	yeah Chimera my soil Ph meter is a piece of garbage, i also got a hanna Ph meter to measure my solution with too but it needs calibrating, so i been using liquid Ph checkers to check my solution but im stuck on checking my soil because thats the best soil Ph meter my hydro shop gets in ab it was only £6. I need to get a quality one. Can i just measure the run-off for now. An flush if my Ph is out???

#9 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 08:39 PM
trikky Glassblower Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In the Redwoods, torchin' it. Posts: 6,165	What Chimera said. Good luck dude, great looking grow though. __________________

#10 (permalink) 01-26-2007, 11:33 AM
cammac Connisuermer :) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 53	Hey dude Im a first time grower with a few BUbblegum that im growing under a 600w hps. Im having the same problems as you are but even earlier - check this thread (wrong forum I know :/) http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ower-pics.html

#11 (permalink) 01-26-2007, 12:42 PM
eatyourwordshul Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16	Cammac, just checked your grow an if im reading it right you say your water is 6.2 before nutes, im thinkin you might need to raise the Ph of your solution. Whats Your run-off Ph level??? You might need to flush, Im no expert though fella. I think im going to have to flush too as im worried my Ph meter is reading higher than what it really is! Although I think i got a magnesium lockout as loads of leaf edges are curling upwards, could this be due to the tap water where i live as i have heard it gets locked out by calcium. Im getting Ph buffers to calibrate my hanna Ph meter today. Oh yeah cammac whats that bubblegum been like to grow, thats what im thinkin of gettin for my next grow.

#12 (permalink) 01-26-2007, 01:11 PM
cammac Connisuermer :) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 53	Yeah really easy bro - They have loved that 600 mate Vegged for 3 weeks . Today will be day 25 of flower. Mine have grown quite branchy (theres prob around 15 - 20 and the main cola - Hasnt stunk as much as I thought it would but I am starting to notice it now :/ The have the most beautiful smell when you touch th eplant though mate - its like heaven even the Mrs who isnt a big smoker said that if that was a fruit she would never stop eating them haha . Im expecting anouther 4 weeks at least - I'll try borrow a cam and get some decent pics Hope you get your nutes sorted brother. I am going to go with some Dolomite lime (sort the ph put a bit) and some shit called Urea to bring up the nitrogen. I have also got some shcultz bloom plus which has ratios of 11.35.11. Might give them with half a ml of potash - Fuck it see what happens Your babies look nice dude keep us posted

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#13 (permalink) 01-26-2007, 01:36 PM
eatyourwordshul Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16	Oh yeah. well mine have been really stinky since the first two weeks in veg!!!! They smell absolutely amazing though. Yeah get some good pics because i want to see how yours turn out. Can anyone tell me if im right about my magnesium lockout an whats causing it.. Cheers guys.

#14 (permalink) 01-29-2007, 01:14 AM
Red Eye Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 178	I have heard that Canna nutrients lead to Nitrogen deficiencies. I have found no other reference to this other than your posting here. I worried about it too, cuz im going to be using Canna Aquas for my first indoor grow. __________________ Disclaimer: Any posts derived herin by Red_Eye should be accepted as pure fiction. Any statements, suggestions, advice, or help posted by Red_Eye should not be taken seriously. I do not condone illegal activities, nor do I participate in illegal acts. All pictures posted by Red_Eye are found easily on the world wide web. All commentary by Red_Eye should be accepted as hypothetical discussions and have no basis in fact.

#15 (permalink) 01-29-2007, 01:36 PM
eatyourwordshul Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16	Well i have had leaf yellowing on the bottom sets all the way through the grow, so that could be the reason, but it could also be that my Ph meter was out of calibration. My hydro guy says it sounds like im over-watering the plant too, just because it only needs watering every four days, he says i should water it a litre every day, but i wouldnt get a run-off then and i thought that u always have to water so that all the soil right to the bottom is watered. Otherwise roots will up-turn. Im confused.