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handy · #1 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 12:17 AM

system-bubbler
lighting-400w mh 20/4
ph-5.7
temp-79-87 F
ppm-1200
humidity-25%-40%
age of plant-25 days
seed-bag

problems and concerns dry and drooping leaves. purple in the stems. the yellow/black spots forming on the leaves.

also some of the bottom leaves got a bad case of nute burn but the plant recovered from that but the new leaves have only 5 points and before the plant was producing 7 point leafs?(pic #2 you can see this)

any help or suggestions? trying to learn

BobMarley.... · #2 (**permalink**) 10-29-2006, 03:35 AM

your plants are starving.... purple stems= nutrient deprivation. feed those poor things

Ganja Guerrilla · #3 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 06:39 AM

I agree, they show signs of lacking everything

max11max · #4 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by handy

system-bubbler
lighting-400w mh 20/4
ph-5.7
temp-79-87 F
ppm-1200
humidity-25%-40%
age of plant-25 days
seed-bag

I'm not one to give advice in this section (the pro's do that) and perhaps should not be posting BUT.

PPM=1200 ? of what nutrients - That's an EC of what ? 2.0 / 2.2 WOW

PH=5.7 When did you calibrate the PH meter?

What's the nutrient temperature?

Someone might be able to help if you gave a little more info.

handy · #5 (**permalink**) 10-31-2006, 10:51 PM

What does everybody think? Looking a lot better now huh?

They are getting general hydroponics 3 part nutes with a dose of liquid karma...

ppm are down to around 600 now...I originally used full dose of nutes.

Nute temps are around 73-78 F and the ph meter is right.

Also couldnt the purple stems be heriditary?

Thanks for the replies.

max11max · #6 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 08:30 AM

YES, they do look a lot happier. So it was high nutrients eh! , I think you knew that tho. Some of the bottom leaves will still die off a bit but you totally turned it round, good job.

I bet you're sleeping better now.

As for the purple stems, I have seen so many posts on this subject on here and other sites with no definitive answer. There seems to be so many reasons why this happens. I'd put it down to the abuse you gave them. But then I'd be keeping an eye on it.

Ganja Guerrilla · #7 (**permalink**) 11-01-2006, 05:49 PM

good call max11max I dont do hydro, so it was high nutes locking everything out.
glad to see they are happier.

handy · #8 (**permalink**) 11-02-2006, 10:49 PM

Thanks guys...she seems to be doing a lot better now.

One thing though...does anybody know why she started making 5 point leaves after 7 point leaves had already appeared.

They are back to 7 points now and the newest growth looks like it has 9 points.

max11max · #9 (**permalink**) 11-03-2006, 09:55 AM

Yeah, if you can't get food you don't grow. It's just the plant conserving what little energy it can.

Keep us updated with the progress tho, any pics. Best not put them here as it's no longer a problem

handy · #10 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 04:49 PM

Not looking good. It seems all the fan leaves are turning purple but the rest of the plant is growing good and has good color.

Does anyone know if a certain problem would cause the purple fan leaves or should I just write this off as the strain?

I said it was bag seed but it is not from schwag. It was the only seed I ever found in the strain (very good homegrown).

The last growth is the newest fan leaves. They are green but have started to change to purple.

max11max · #11 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 05:03 PM

Not looking GOOD? I think you should go back and look at the 1st picture you posted. There looking well on the road to recovery. In that picture the whole plant had purple stems.

So relax, it will get sorted whatever the problem is (If there is one) i'm sure

handy · #12 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by max11max

Not looking GOOD? I think you should go back and look at the 1st picture you posted. There looking well on the road to recovery. In that picture the whole plant had purple stems.

So relax, it will get sorted whatever the problem is (If there is one) i'm sure

lol thanks man I needed that. I just like to do things right but after looking at the pics from 1 week ago I am very happy.

GrowBot · #13 (**permalink**) 11-04-2006, 06:52 PM

you don't mention what your rez temps. are. the purpling can be caused by a magnesium deficiency or too cold temps. at night.

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#1 (permalink) 10-29-2006, 12:17 AM
handy take me home Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: east of the mississippi Posts: 98	sick plant...want to save w/pics system-bubbler lighting-400w mh 20/4 ph-5.7 temp-79-87 F ppm-1200 humidity-25%-40% age of plant-25 days seed-bag problems and concerns dry and drooping leaves. purple in the stems. the yellow/black spots forming on the leaves. also some of the bottom leaves got a bad case of nute burn but the plant recovered from that but the new leaves have only 5 points and before the plant was producing 7 point leafs?(pic #2 you can see this) any help or suggestions? trying to learn __________________ Signed[SIGPIC]

#2 (permalink) 10-29-2006, 03:35 AM
BobMarley.... Over Grower-> Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Posts: 297	your plants are starving.... purple stems= nutrient deprivation. feed those poor things

#3 (permalink) 10-31-2006, 06:39 AM
Ganja Guerrilla www.ganjaguerrilla.net Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,680	I agree, they show signs of lacking everything

#5 (permalink) 10-31-2006, 10:51 PM
handy take me home Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: east of the mississippi Posts: 98	What does everybody think? Looking a lot better now huh? They are getting general hydroponics 3 part nutes with a dose of liquid karma... ppm are down to around 600 now...I originally used full dose of nutes. Nute temps are around 73-78 F and the ph meter is right. Also couldnt the purple stems be heriditary? Thanks for the replies. __________________ Signed[SIGPIC] Last edited by handy; 11-04-2006 at 04:53 PM.

#6 (permalink) 11-01-2006, 08:30 AM
max11max T.H.C User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On A UK Island Posts: 206	YES, they do look a lot happier. So it was high nutrients eh! , I think you knew that tho. Some of the bottom leaves will still die off a bit but you totally turned it round, good job. I bet you're sleeping better now. As for the purple stems, I have seen so many posts on this subject on here and other sites with no definitive answer. There seems to be so many reasons why this happens. I'd put it down to the abuse you gave them. But then I'd be keeping an eye on it. __________________ Growfucius say, while feeding his plants "Don't give em too much, you got to learn to spank the bitches, not shoot them in the ass" Last edited by max11max; 11-01-2006 at 08:33 AM.

#7 (permalink) 11-01-2006, 05:49 PM
Ganja Guerrilla www.ganjaguerrilla.net Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,680	good call max11max I dont do hydro, so it was high nutes locking everything out. glad to see they are happier.

#8 (permalink) 11-02-2006, 10:49 PM
handy take me home Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: east of the mississippi Posts: 98	Thanks guys...she seems to be doing a lot better now. One thing though...does anybody know why she started making 5 point leaves after 7 point leaves had already appeared. They are back to 7 points now and the newest growth looks like it has 9 points. __________________ Signed[SIGPIC]

#9 (permalink) 11-03-2006, 09:55 AM
max11max T.H.C User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On A UK Island Posts: 206	Yeah, if you can't get food you don't grow. It's just the plant conserving what little energy it can. Keep us updated with the progress tho, any pics. Best not put them here as it's no longer a problem __________________ Growfucius say, while feeding his plants "Don't give em too much, you got to learn to spank the bitches, not shoot them in the ass" Last edited by max11max; 11-04-2006 at 04:51 PM.

#11 (permalink) 11-04-2006, 05:03 PM
max11max T.H.C User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On A UK Island Posts: 206	Not looking GOOD? I think you should go back and look at the 1st picture you posted. There looking well on the road to recovery. In that picture the whole plant had purple stems. So relax, it will get sorted whatever the problem is (If there is one) i'm sure __________________ Growfucius say, while feeding his plants "Don't give em too much, you got to learn to spank the bitches, not shoot them in the ass"

#13 (permalink) 11-04-2006, 06:52 PM
GrowBot Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,236	you don't mention what your rez temps. are. the purpling can be caused by a magnesium deficiency or too cold temps. at night.

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