spidermites and clones

hey guys i got 4 plants that have been infected with spidermites i just ordered some neem oil but it wont be here for another 2 days so ive been using an ivory soap water mix in the mean time... i wanted to take some cuttings and toss the plants... or at least put them outside... but my question is can i take a cutting, add my rooting gel/powder and then a day later (when i get my neem oil) submerge the entire cutting before it has rooted into a neem oil solution? or will this simply harm or cause stress to my plants? my main goal is to get rid of these stupid spider mites and start my babies over... the reason i want to start over is because the clones i recieved which are my 4 plants now were neglected and werent in the best of shape.

Use dr broners magic soap with the neem oil. Get some Monterey garden spray with spinosad and some aloe juice(health food store) Alternate these 2 combos every 3 days heavily. In the mean time take your cuttings but don't neem them. If your kitchen sink has a sprayer on it then lean a cutting board at an angle in the sink. Then trim cut and dip like usual. after they root spray em down again then plant em in to their pots and begin the spinosad/aloe and neem/magic soap regimen after transplant recovery. best of luck man just keep everything clean and stay on top of your management/prevention.

Use dr broners magic soap with the neem oil. Get some Monterey garden spray with spinosad and some aloe juice(health food store) Alternate these 2 combos every 3 days heavily. In the mean time take your cuttings but don't neem them. If your kitchen sink has a sprayer on it then lean a cutting board at an angle in the sink. Then trim cut and dip like usual. after they root spray em down again then plant em in to their pots and begin the spinosad/aloe and neem/magic soap regimen after transplant recovery. best of luck man just keep everything clean and stay on top of your management/prevention.

Thanks man wheres the best place to get the dr broners and the monterey garden spray, at any garden store? Also does this method permanantly get rid of the mites?

no method permanatly gets rid of them..
Your best bet is preventative action.. They drown very easy so make sure you always spray young plants down regularly..neem is wonderful stuff...

no method permanatly gets rid of them..
Your best bet is preventative action.. They drown very easy so make sure you always spray young plants down regularly..neem is wonderful stuff...

Unfortunately this is true. You're only weapon is persistent prevention and population control. Mix up your products and keep everything clean. Quarantine cuttings in another room and keep your veggers well sprayed. They're like herpes: once you got em you got em and it ain't going away you can only control the flare ups and hopefully not give em to someone else ha ha

Thanks man wheres the best place to get the dr broners and the monterey garden spray, at any garden store? Also does this method permanantly get rid of the mites?

Dr bronners soap you can find at Fred Meyers and th garden spray you'll have to either hit up the web or go to th hydro store. 16$ for the concentrate. Always get rhe concentrate not pre mix spray

no method permanatly gets rid of them..
Your best bet is preventative action.. They drown very easy so make sure you always spray young plants down regularly..neem is wonderful stuff...

I strongly disagree.


I have personally rid my ornamental English ivy (in the house) from SMs by applying 3 applications of spinosad over a 10 day period, top dressing the soil with neem cake, and spraying a diluted neem ferment that I made from the neem seed meal. You have to be thorough with spraying & always spray at dusk or before the lights turn off.

3 punch knockout....wam, bam, thank you mam




-OSUB

Stop spraying em and watch em blow up again. You have mites still believe me they just aren't triving due to your regimen of prevention. A couple of hot dry days and you're back to square one with em. Neem oil is t killing them it's deterring them and preventing them from eating and reproducing due to the hormones in it. The spinosad will kill but not the eggs. Plus the responsible thing to do is never get cocky and think they are gone but always assume you have em and treat as such.

i have stopped spraying them....and they have been SM free for a few months. that is what the neem seed meal in the soil is for - a deterrent after the eradication.





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I'm glad (and impressed) you have that much success with neem seed in your soil with your ivy but he's (a noob) tryin to grow weed and if he has mites on his clones chances are theyre a much more tenacious breed of mite that has already gained a level of resistance to treatments over generations, so trusting that so much can be pretty dangerous. I use neem seed in my soil too and if I decide that the mites are just fine and relax on it then I'll be bustin out the vacuum in desperation. I say spray em down every 3 days with something good and plain water in between along with the neem cake and Karanji teas. Safe to do so up to week 4-5 of flowering and your sure to have a clean harvest at 8-9wk

Edit-typos, errors, and arrogant douche baggary happy grows

Edited by heretikhashhead, 24 May 2012 - 07:34 AM.

Having a bit of troubles with my recent cloning attempts (first try )

I have a couple of clippings in a root riot tray, the oldest reaching 1 week today, and the others at day 4. I took a closer look this morning in an attempt to check for any progress on the rooting, and i noticed those little mite bastards coming up the stem from underneath. My question is, is it safe to use a neem oil [einstein oil] foliar spray at this stage, or are they too young to take the barrage of insecticide. I know preventive measures are the only real way of combating this issue (using my closet as the cloning/veg area, so they must have cought a ride from another plant) but i needed to know if these clones could be saved.

FYI: They are blue dream, using clonex for rooting.

Edited by Snapman, 28 May 2012 - 01:20 AM.

let them go......wait until they root before you start spraying anything.


with neem products make sure you spray right before dusk (or right before the lights turn off). after dark will work as well. if you dont do this, some molecular compounds in the neem break down by light degradation and it makes the spray useless....not to mention the harm it could cause to your plants..........



hope this helps











-OSUB

it does, thx

ill just keep them in check with my fingers until then.

So I ended up spraying some azamax 2 days before taking cuttings and also dunked my mother plants in a Neem oil solution using a 5 gal bucket the day before taking cuttings... the clones are 5 days old now and seem to be doing perfectly fine... no mites!

I strongly disagree.


I have personally rid my ornamental English ivy (in the house) from SMs by applying 3 applications of spinosad over a 10 day period, top dressing the soil with neem cake, and spraying a diluted neem ferment that I made from the neem seed meal. You have to be thorough with spraying & always spray at dusk or before the lights turn off.

3 punch knockout....wam, bam, thank you mam




-OSUB

well allthough you may have them now, it isnt permanant...so you can be as strong as you wanna be..
fact is they love mj, and a preventative measure must be used, but hey maybe youve been growing longer then me...

Having a bit of troubles with my recent cloning attempts (first try )

I have a couple of clippings in a root riot tray, the oldest reaching 1 week today, and the others at day 4. I took a closer look this morning in an attempt to check for any progress on the rooting, and i noticed those little mite bastards coming up the stem from underneath. My question is, is it safe to use a neem oil [einstein oil] foliar spray at this stage, or are they too young to take the barrage of insecticide. I know preventive measures are the only real way of combating this issue (using my closet as the cloning/veg area, so they must have cought a ride from another plant) but i needed to know if these clones could be saved.

FYI: They are blue dream, using clonex for rooting.

Those clones are still good to go. Neem is ok but what you should do that has become a vital step in my pest control. Take them to the kitchen and lay a cutting board at an angle in the sink. Set the water temp about Luke warm to room temp. Then dangle your cuts upside down and spray them thoroughly with the kitchen sprayer or just run them under running water. Shake em off then put em back in a clean tray This literally washes eggs and living mites right off the plant. I do this everytime I clone before I dip them. I grow blue dream too and this works wonders