smoke reports for indoor sativas compared to columbian gold

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  1. #1 hazey grapes, Sep 15, 2011
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    if you crave strains that get you high and are frustrated with just how hard it is to find out EXACTLY how they smoke, copy and SAVE this info RIGHT NOW! i'm about to give you the lowdown on pretty much every named strain i've smoked that gets you high unlike the greed weed that pollutes the streets that you so want to get away from. i know this is the EXACT kind of info i begged and pleaded for in another forum and never got any acceptable answers for, especially in regards to couchlock levels

    columbian gold it's the very first strain i ever smoked and to this day, still the best! compared to today's hybrids, it's pine cone scented buds look scrawny & fluffy without much resin, but don't let that fool you because the shit is POTENT! 4 one hitters will make the room start spinning and give you serious make it stop!" nausea. when you're in the zone though. it makes EVERYTHING funner with laugh your ass off euphoria. the really fun part though is the total heightening of all of your senses. movies & music look & and sound more real, junk food tastes orgasmic, you get that light giddy feeling in your gut that turns into a light floating feeling like you're always walking downhill. after a month of wake & bake, you need to take a week or 2 vacation to detox & get your tolerance back down and it starts to get stoney when you do it alot and in large doses, but it's definitely more motivational than tiring. it's too bad it's extinct in the market place.

    haze skunk (high quality seeds) looks more indica than sativa seed's (nirvana) discontinued H19 x skunk version, but the smoke kicks butt! it has less psychoactivity, particularly in the visuals department) than gold (THE queen of visuals in anything i've ever smoked), but has higher potency and euphoria and is much stickier. there's not too much expansion. i REALLY want to try their thai skunk & compare it with the haze & their kerala skunk too. i'd hedge a bet that the thai is the trippiest one, but that's it's also the fussiest brat too as pure highland thai (full moon) is a slow light starved hermie bitch to grow, but it's tutti fruity odor when you pan fry leaf & early bud is extra sexy. i wasn't too keen on HS's mild but disgusting cigar under the nose flavor, but the buzz is great and eventually it starts building in your system so you wake up with a mild buzz and eventually get a constant low grade nausea from it that's easy to ignore as it's motivation level keeps you busy. it has just a hint of couchlock, but it never overpowers the motivation level. it takes longer than many strains to grow, but has a really cool "one little bud ever 2-3 inches" stretchy budding pattern that makes harvesting easy and if you SCROG it, you'd get a really nice yield with a lot of buds.

    8 miles high (mandala) was the first regular REAL high i had in 25 years when i tried some last year. i love it's refined manners. it does nothing wrong & hits so many euphoric buttons like a lover that knows EXACTLY how to touch you. it's perfectly neutral in the energy... there's no couchlock, but no raciness either and it works for chilling, even sleeping or vigorous activities. (the funner, the better). it has haze level euphoria at least with milder psychoactivity that still isn't shabby. it made me get into tunes & do the robot with a body effect that felt like super precise muscle control. as far as 1st love reunions go, 8 miles is a sweety that sits ABOVE vintage even kali mist because it hints at trippiness like the light rush you get when columbian gold starts to kick in. definitey requires further testing... for science sake... yeah. out of anything here but C99 maybe, it's also the most indoor friendly for DIY. it's supposed to have strawberry phenos (bred from strawberry cough?) but i don't recall anything notable about the flavor, maybe because i was too busy having fun. i consider it the best 24/7 strain because it doesn't mess with your energy and doesn't beat you down like purer IBLs. sometimes milder is better.

    super cali haze i only got a cold stunted but DELICIOUS sweet grape "daisy" to test unlike growers complaining she stretches too much, but the buzz i got was pure haze! i'd need to test them side by side to name any significant differences, but i imagine some potency is lost, but without afghanicrapping on the THC. this is a top contender for breeding for THC & flavor with more compact strains. any date with this gal is gonna be hot! the REAL treat besides the highly euphoric buzz though is how the delicious haze flavor that's way more authentic than the barely detectable artificial blueberry sugar flavor of blueberry (both get their flavor from tutti fruity highland thai) without the annoying couchlock either. the buzz is similar to 8 miles high, but a little more potent and the grape flavor makes it extra special.

    C99 (joey weed... discontinued, but mosca has picked it back up and bred it for the "potent pineapple" pheno and is claimed to be trippy where JW's version is more clear headed & motivational) is a very special plant with a very specialized buzz... it's great, as long as you have something to do and don't try to go to sleep on it! the buzz can be very euphoric & racy early on, but later on, probably due to THC degredation, it mellows into an alert & clearheaded high that still wants you to find something to do without nagging. as far as nags go though, joey's cindy's sweet side is a treat... sticky hazey grape low odor buds and she puts out quick. JW's gals clock in at 45 days with mosca's taking 50, but that version is supposed to be much more psychoactive if it's descriptions are accurate. JW's version smokes just like original kali mist, but doesn't have it's delicious burn your lips crushed red pepper flavor, but it's way more indoor and yield friendly. nowadays, kali mist has 12.5% more indica in it, so i can't report on it, but the buzz SHOULD be in the ballpark at least if maybe a little stonier. it's not a good strain for chilling out as it likes to keep you moving, but is perfect for work, running a marathon, or getting a date to fling her panties at the ceiling fan in record time. it's best as an activities only bud, not so much watching movies and listening to tunes like the more balanced to couchlocking strains.

    durban poison i was gifted a gram of this by the same person that tosed me a kali mist bud in the late 90s and loved it's buzz. it didn't seem quite as trippy as gold, but i only had a gram and tried to make it last. it has a great euphoria level and no couchlock. the most distinctive thing about it is the flavor. it tastes exactly like you're smoking a stick of black licorice. EXACTLY. it's one of the most disgusting flavors in the world to me though, so i wasn't a fan of that and it's extremely expansive leading to lung busting woofing that is accompanied by dry heaves. that's probably where it gets it's poison nickname. compared to the stoney crap you can't get away from on the east coast though, it's totally worth enduring the flavor some might find delicious and even the dry heaves because when you get that light giddy feeling that tells you you're about to get high & not stoned, all is forgiven. it's a very exotic strain and is one of the most compact sativa IBLs, but it sure looks like it has some indica in it.

    LSD (barney's farm) - yet another hazey & grapey strain with a very distinct personality. it is pretty compact and looks gorgeous when it starts flowering. when it does, expect those grapes to smell like they were sprayed by a male cat (not that strong though) with a side order of flowers. it's not an overpowering odor. but when you put your nose right in that beaver, it has a sickengly sweet odor that mellows to softer grapes later. the buzz is the weird thing. if 8 miles high has no idea what messing with your energy level with anything other than enthusiasm with a nice dose of euphoria & psychoactivity, then LSD goes to the other extreme by getting you high & stoned at the same time! it has mild psychoactivity and euphoria with a twist of motivation, but at the same time, it makes your eyelids instantly heavy. you can function a couple hours on it, but eventually it's stone will creep up on you and knock your butt out! i despise couchlock, but this strain doesn't beat you over the head with it right away and takes it's time getting to you (if anything should creep, it's couchlock!) this would be awesome for breeding with energetic C99 so each cancels the others' weaknesses... cindy wakes the acid up while the acid sparks her imagination. the already midrange LSD psychoactivity level would probably drop a notch though. someone's larger strain called mataro blue has a very similar buzz, but is larger and less grapey and not as sexy. LSD is very compact with dark olive green leaves with cool fishbone ribs on the leaves contrasted by thick & sticky snow white resin glands. the buds are very dense & moist too before curing.

    onyx is a diesel strain with, to me, a really DISGUSTING, but not as much as cat piss, flavor from it's diesel genetics that so many swear by that i'll never understand. it tastes like licking the thick oil stains on the tarmac at a truck stop! i threw plants i grew near train tracks out for having that same disgusting taste, but much stronger. if i could get past the taste, it has a REALLY special high though. it's thought provoking and euphoric, but seemed extremely touchy feely & sensual. i ended up playing footsie with myself on it. i don't recall that exact effect from anything else i've smoked. if you could get that buzz in a better tasting strain, it would be the best strain for a date i could imagine.

    as an old school toker who only likes to get high and knows how hard it can be to get decent smoke reports even when you beg & plead with someone trying to get you to try apollo 11 or super silver haze which you don't want to because they can couchlock, i hope that these reports will give any of you looking to try some high in your garden a good start on a strain that's best for your tastes. my top three favorites for growing are:

    haze skunk - for the wicked potency and highest psychoactivity, but it's a bit too much for 24/7 use
    super cali haze - not as psychoactive, but way more delicious and refined. i imagine it's the lowest yielder, but i only had a 4 inch plant with about a gram of bud on my freebie
    8 miles high - it simply does no wrongs and so many awesomes. it's the least potent of the three but NOT schawg! that gives it better 24/7 & noob friendly ability though and it's the best & fastest yielding by a longshot. it's TOTALLY practical and as close as you're likely to get to a cash cropping haze as MOST other "indoor sativas" like LA confidential, apollo 11. super silver haze, jack herer, red dragon, LSD, blue mataro, romulan, skunk #1 & medicine man (aka white rhino) are all compromised by couchlock which belongs to the indica family and makes one's high "lower".

    a couple strains to keep your eyes open for in the laugh your ass off euphoria category i've seen a lot of love from others for are laughing buddha & jillybean

    there... that should give you the lowdown on SOMETHING that suits your tastes. give some love and +REP if this lowdown helps ya, would ya?
     
  2. LSD isnt a sativa. I didnt think LA Con was either? Maybe it is.
     
  3. Try some African land race sativas like Malawi Gold, Mulaje Gold, Swazi Highland or Zambezi Gold. if you like sativas they're killer.
     
  4. i WANTED to try and miniaturize malawi gold, but sadly afropips is no more and i've heard that seedsman's version is pure schwag. IBLs are out of the question indoors really. they take too long, and require too much light & space. i was sadly disappointed with what i got from the fussy highland thais i tried to grow even if the tutti fruity smell you get when panfrying your tiny prebuds when they hermie is downright sexy.

    while the strains i listed aren't going to be as trippy as the best IBLs (2x cambodian mekong haze is supposed to be EXTRA trippy) they're at least doable indoors without the couchlock of red dragon, romulan, super silver haze & medicine man etc. and haze skunk's potency is SICK! it might be more visual than i think, but that's one i never tried to test the limits on after getting a mild case of the dizzies the first time i tried it. you can get too much of a good thing.

    i love 8 miles high. it's really indoor friendly and just has a fun no fuss buzz. anything's better than the quaalude effect of stoner bud to me. my biochemistry just can't stand that effect, but starting out smoking columbian (always sold as thai) spoiled me for getting high.

    i like getting high because it encourages activity instead of sleep. everything's funner when you're high
     

  5. La con definatly is indica dominate, recon has a good tiva side to her.

    Its a wonder to me, youve never grown or smoked ISS or grapefruit? Island sweet skunk is grapefruit x skunk #1. Grapefruit is c99 x unknown sativa. Both are relativly calm and relaxing upbeat sativas, grapefruit has some phenos that lean c99 though. Have only smoked ISS, cant speak to her phenos.
     
  6. i've always wanted to try grapefruit. it used to be REALLY popular about 5 years ago.

    LSD is more of a mid, like skunk #1 with a little more psychoactivity, but nothing remarkable, but eventually, yeah, it's stony as they get and puts you to sleep. it's buds are really dense & stickey too, but it has hints of haze cat piss and grapes in it's phenos.

    i just included it because it might be more someone else's speed (or slow down if have you)

    all of the strains i listed with La confidential should be considered hybrids as the reoprts i've seen on all of them indicate they're "trippy", but yeah, they all couchlock and are of little interest to me
     

  7. Actually LA Con is 100% indica. LSD is indica dominant.
     
  8. Highgrade Seeds (Highgrade Seeds - Highest Quality Marijuana Seeds Online) carries all 3 African strains. $50 for 15 seeds.
     

  9. Holy Smoke seeds carries them as well. They both have the exact same pictures and exact same description. Wonder who ripped off who.....

    Considering Holy Smoke breeders are from South Africa I have my suspicions.
     
  10. So does BCBudDepot.com. Perhaps you ought to see a therapist about your suspicions. :wave:
     
  11. #11 hazey grapes, Sep 16, 2011
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    suspicions NOTHING. show me who carries burmese smart alec! for that matter, just a few years ago EVERY grower, and i mean pretty much every single one of them used to carry haze. now, maybe 1 in 5 does if even that.

    highgrade seeds & ace seeds too carry landraces, but it's taken a few years of wondering about them until i started hearing some thumbs ups for their gear.

    the bottom line though is in parts of NY, you can't get anything but same old same old stony beasters. i've TRIED to get high there and never could for 25 effing years and from just as many dealers having wasted literally thousands of dollars on those greedy bastids so don't try and change the subject with lies. i'll just mute you and be done with it.

    even here, in a much better market, i've yet to see anything truly cerebral & motivational i didn't DIY myself. i'd call the best i've been able to buy here "not completely terrible mids, but still unimpressive" i have gotten nice a couple times off stuff i couldn't buy though just like i couldn't score any weight for the kali mist i was gifted in the late 90s even offering a completely INSANE $120 for an EIGTH.

    as i get sick and tired of saying, my ignant cousin has NEVER gotten high once, and info i've shared like this helped one disgruntled high lover that quit smoking after he too no longer could find anything that got him high get back to it because he thought his biochemistry changed.

    there are many people out there that want to get high that can't. the market is a ripoff. and gear that does get you high never makes it far on the streets except cali maybe.

    there are still SOME growers growing gear that gets you high, but they're pretty much headstash growers who aren't in it for the greedy grubs money, just the love. if i had headstash... i'd give it away.
     

  12. Totally trying this...Holy Smoke, not the other.
     
  13. i tried to find smoke reports for holy smoke seeds and got nothing at a few sites i tried that would have the info, but no search engine
     
  14. I found ONE recently. The guy had several different phenos, mostly different buzz types. All sounded great sativa, the most potent actually sounded scary. The most potent was described as racey, paranoia, heart palputations, trippy, very intense, paralyzing.
     

  15. that doesnt sound enjoyable at all.
     

  16. No that doesn't.
     
  17. The funny thing was there were comments from quite a few people in that thread that LOVE that kind of smoke. The other phenos were normal sativa types, uplifting energetic, some trippiness, etc. They sounded much closer to my tastes.
     
  18. Different strokes for different folks.

    But Im with you Im more for the normal sativa characteristics.

    TGA has a strain that is spouse to be a bit like that racy, paranoia, trippy, anxiousness.
     
  19. i tend to think paranoia is the result of the trippier aspects of sativas. they heighten your senses as well as the way you experience things. fun stuff is funner, but stuff that's a bummer becomes more significant too.

    it's best to have the right personality to deal with the paranoia and the kind of open mind that finds fun in new experiences. at lower doses, they can be a lot funner. that's what i love about 8 miles high... it's so agreeable where haze skunk will spank you if you overdo it.
     
  20. Oh yeah definally feel the same with those strong sativas. Too much will fucking make you tripping....

    Nice strains dude havnt had any of the ones your talking about. Had a nice SLH not too long ago was nice really starting to like that sativa high just not even in my area!
     

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