Sniffer Dog Proof Packaging?

[te-puke-thunder]

Hey.... I am a grower from New Zealand and I have a question to ask. Cannabis seeds are illegal in NZ (as they are in the US) so I thought this would be a good place to ask...

Does anyone know of any seed banks that use sniffer dog 'proof' packaging??

The last time I ordered seeds was about 1999. Back then some seed banks mentioned they use sniffer dog proof packaging, but no seed banks seem to mention it today. It's certainly not hard to do, a bit of pepper does the trick (I guess there are better ways).

Only a small percentage of letters coming into NZ are are checked by the dogs. I have only ever heard of two people getting busted in 9 years. But it would be good to know that I will (almost) certainly recieve my order.

Can anyone help or will I have to risk it??

Thanks

[qubed55]

Are those seeds trained dogs? I've seen dogs being trained on an ex-cop's training video, and they only had dogs trained for: Coke, MJ(not seeds, bud), Heroin, and something else, think it was meth or something. But it's called the big four and I've never heard of getting busted for seeds by a dog unless they have weed packed with it. Unless companies don't even wash the seeds they send you.

[balla420]

it is impossible for dogs to smell seeds.. they give off no smell what so ever.. and i wouldn't worry about it, because even if customs (or whatever your equivalent agency is called) finds the seeds. they will just take them and send you a letter in place that says something along the lines of.... the product you were recieving is illegal and has been seized..blah blah blah... i'm pretty sure you won't actually get in trouble, unless it is a repetative thing

[Num]

we use the postal service a lot for bud & clones etc & the best smell proofer for 24hrs is babies scented nappy bags round the packeage.

chuck bud in a baggy & seal it, put it in a nappy sack & knot it loosely, put in jiffy bag & off it goes - totally weed pong free

seeds?? I'd be more concerned about them getting crushed tbh - some send them out in cd cases so u should stick with them.

sry about ur country btw - nz is a cool place but i had no idea they were so antiweed :/

[Standard]

HaHaHa! Sniffer dogs arent trained to detect one specific item. They are trained to sniff-out families of scents, like a coke sniffer dog recognizes dozens of chemical
bi-products of coke processing. When it comes to weed, they are trained to recognize
certain tropical plants and green scents, I know this because a sniffer dog once sniffed
me out in Miami customs coming back from Jamaica, all I had was a coconut in my bag, and the little sniffer caught me. Appantly you cant smuggle coconuts.

[kinky19777]

Originally Posted by Standard

HaHaHa! Sniffer dogs arent trained to detect one specific item. They are trained to sniff-out families of scents, like a coke sniffer dog recognizes dozens of chemical
bi-products of coke processing. When it comes to weed, they are trained to recognize
certain tropical plants and green scents, I know this because a sniffer dog once sniffed
me out in Miami customs coming back from Jamaica, all I had was a coconut in my bag, and the little sniffer caught me. Appantly you cant smuggle coconuts.

^^^^Very true...I argued this with someone else before in another thread......The damn seeds are grown in the bud and they smell like bud unless over time they lost their scent.Most places dont WASSH their seeds "COME on people????" -"hell lets wash these seeds and put them back in the box and in the drawer and two days from now I bet they wont have geminated acidentally." WTF .---I know a kid when I was in high school that had ONLY SEEDS ( a 100 of them in a small glass vial with a plastic lid) and they had routine drug dog day and he got his ass busted. The dogs found it in his locker.Maybe the dogs dont get every seed out there but im sure they smell them.You can argue it all the fuck you want to YOU THINK DOGS DONT SMELL SEEDS=YOU ARE WRONG!!!! and for those of you that think they dont take you about 50 or so and throw em in a bag in your car and look suspitious and go speeding around...also be a smart ass to the cop when you get pulled over. It'll Serve your smart punk know it all ass right to find othe hard way.

[eyec0n]

the only seal i've known to work is putting stuff in a small container and dipping it in wax; like candle wax. I dunno if you can just put pepper in there and think its gonna fool it. Dogs will just smell weed + pepper.

[balla420]

Originally Posted by kinky19777

^^^^Very true...I argued this with someone else before in another thread......The damn seeds are grown in the bud and they smell like bud unless over time they lost their scent.Most places dont WASSH their seeds "COME on people????" -"hell lets wash these seeds and put them back in the box and in the drawer and two days from now I bet they wont have geminated acidentally." WTF .---I know a kid when I was in high school that had ONLY SEEDS ( a 100 of them in a small glass vial with a plastic lid) and they had routine drug dog day and he got his ass busted. The dogs found it in his locker.Maybe the dogs dont get every seed out there but im sure they smell them.You can argue it all the fuck you want to YOU THINK DOGS DONT SMELL SEEDS=YOU ARE WRONG!!!! and for those of you that think they dont take you about 50 or so and throw em in a bag in your car and look suspitious and go speeding around...also be a smart ass to the cop when you get pulled over. It'll Serve your smart punk know it all ass right to find othe hard way.

get ready to argue again........... i admit. if someone grew a plant for seeds then took them directly from the plant into a package for shipping the dogs WOULD smell them, but no one does that...all you gotta do is let them sit for a few days and make sure that all the Green "leaf like" material that surrounds the seeds is off. and its only a seed. BTW who the fuck washes seeds... besides, that is a dumb idea, becuase even know its not likely, you could risk making the seed crack open, if it absorpts too much of the water.

bottom line, other than the scenario listed above, dogs CANT smell seeds, and heres' why... as a plant grows, it produces more plant tissue that tissue is what smells, plus it takes time for the tissue to generate, obviously or the plant would just grow instantly. (mostly buds smell but plants also smell in veg) just not as much.....but as a seed, none of that is there? so how are they going to smell it if its not there??? most likely the kid who got busted with seeds, was recently smoking, or had some shake in his pocket, or little fragments of shake or the shell casing ( that leaf like material that surrounds the seeds) and that is what the dog smelled.

a seed is a seed, not a plant... its not a plant until it hatches and comes above ground and has green things called leaves and a stem. so HOW DOES THE DOG SMELL SOMETHING ITS BEEN TRAINED TO SMELL THAT IS NOT EVEN THERE YET???

[kinky19777]

Well I guess there IS NO CORRECT ANSWER to this BUT even if Im wrong at least I wont ever have to worry about it....where as you do....

[kinky19777]

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v658367cdn4tRCJ

Case closed!!!

[balla420]

Originally Posted by kinky19777

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v658367cdn4tRCJ

Case closed!!!

damn kid, you got shit twisted.......how is that case closed???? it didn't say one thing about smelling seeds.... and incase you already forgot, this argument was about smelling SEEDS, not weed in general. we all know dogs can smell actual buds, or plant matter.. but that doesn't even come close to proving your right, and you won't get any proof either cuz your not right.. haha...

and besides that guy is an idiot... what if your surrounded your buds with activated charcoal... which doesn't hide odor it REMOVES it....problem solved.... buy a refill kit for a carbon filter, (comes in little pellet sized chunks, looks like black hamster food) grind it up to a fine powder...bag your buds. then in another bigger bag/container, and surround the bag with bud completly (not just throw it and bud in a bag and not even cover it all up like in that stupid ass video you found) then when the smell permiates through the container, it will just get neutralized in the activated charcol. lets see what other half ass attempts you have at proving your wrong info right...

oh yeah.. another way i know i'm right... cuz i've had a few run-ins with k-9 units in my days and the drug dogs have searched my car a few times and i've had seeds in the ashtray, and under the seats and did they get all worked up? NO so how are you going to try and prove me wrong now, say i just imagined the dog there sniffing around my car?

[jcj77d]

hes saying that there are no such thing as dog proof packages, & even if it is just seeds, they came off an mj plant, which can transport mj dust on the seeds. those are my video post, watch them all, youll understand better.

[kinky19777]

Some people...... Well I hope the man catches you with your unsmellable seeds and they throw you in a federal pound- you -in- the -ass prison. Are you that blind? I mean the proof is in the puddin.....Even if you put them in charcoal or carbon or whatever it will still do like the guy said. The carbon or charcoal stuff only takes the smell away to the point WE cant smell it. Dogs can find seeds...Maybe every dog out there miss's some here n there -like he said BUT everydog CAN smell them no matter what you mask them/ the bud/ or whatever illegal substance with. What you are saying would be like saying " I cleaned my shoes extra clean and now if I run into the woods from the cops the dogs cant find me if I pour activated carbon on me" ...>WTF? Are you that serious.....If so you deserve to get caught.

[balla420]

Originally Posted by kinky19777

Some people...... Well I hope the man catches you with your unsmellable seeds and they throw you in a federal pound- you -in- the -ass prison. Are you that blind? I mean the proof is in the puddin.....Even if you put them in charcoal or carbon or whatever it will still do like the guy said. The carbon or charcoal stuff only takes the smell away to the point WE cant smell it. Dogs can find seeds...Maybe every dog out there miss's some here n there -like he said BUT everydog CAN smell them no matter what you mask them/ the bud/ or whatever illegal substance with. What you are saying would be like saying " I cleaned my shoes extra clean and now if I run into the woods from the cops the dogs cant find me if I pour activated carbon on me" ...>WTF? Are you that serious.....If so you deserve to get caught.

fuck the man, the law, whatever you want to call it. they aint gonna catch me, and even if they did (the same day that hell freezes over), getting caught with mj seeds, you will not go to a federal pen, you will only go to county jail, if even that, most likely you will just get a fine and maybe get your drivers license suspended for a few months... and be on your way. and for your info jail and prison are 2 completly different environments.... people don't get raped in jail, that shit only happens in prison.....and now it doesn't even matter cuz i have a medical card now but for those who don't, i'm saying don't worry bout getting caught cuz of seeds, cuz dogs won't find them... unless (like i said before) they were just picked from the plants, still have seed casing on them, or pollen or mj particle(dust, which they won't if they've been handled at all, cuz it will stick to your fingers rather than stay on the seed)

for one that guy is a fucking idiot... like when he did his example of trying to MASK the smell buy mixing other shit in the bag... he just poured a bunch of shit in the bag and set the weed on top, it was not even fully covered by the other stuff in the bag.

now one thing he said is true, smells permiate through containers, but smells also disapate into the air. That guys still stupid as shit...cuz if you had all that shit in the bag and it was actually completly covering the weed, it would take a day to permiate through there.......... and as far as weed in a gas tank... that shitty ass mexican brick shwag they had in the pvc tube inside the gas tank....for one, weed that shitty doesn't even smell like weed.. yes dogs can smell better than humans but humans can smell shwag too, just cuz the dog can smell it better than us, doesn't mean it smells a differnt smell just the same thing but stronger.. and if u know anything bout weed, that brick shit smells nothing at all like the good shit. so right there the dog would have to be trained to smell all differnt grades of weed... it might of been u, or someone else (don't remember) that said earlier in this thread, that for weed dogs are trained to smell tropical plants.... not sure how accurate that is, but that brick weed a.k.a. shwag...doesnt smell tropical it smells like the last shit i took...hahha lol and also...even if the dog was trained to smell weed that smells like a #2, or even the good shit for that matter... in a pvc pipe, in gasoline, in a METAL tank would take days to permiate through there, so unless your moving shit very far distances (like a 4-6 days drive) and you have your weed in the gas tank, they aren't going to smell it.

and about that little example you gave about running in the woods... yes.... if it was actually possible to be 100% covered in activated charcoal (what carbon scrubbers use) while moving then NO the dogs couldn't find you... if you have ever read up on carbon scrubbers, activated charcoal is what makes them work.... and you will learn that they don't MASK the smell, they REMOVE (neutralize) organic smells. which means it changes the smell into something completely different which is why they work so well.

and what the hell is "I mean the proof is in the puddin....." i mean i get what your saying by that but still, puddin but your right.... theres nothing that will teach you (about this argument or anything in life) like proof... and me getting my vehicles searched by the drug dogs on more than one occasion and having seeds and probably even a little bit of shake on the floor and in the ashtray and not getting busted.....hmmmmm well thats all the proof i need to know without a doubt that your average mj seed (not like in the situations i explained above, fresh picked...blah blah..etc.) cannot be smelled by a dog. now let me ask you something.... have you actually had your car or house or person searched by a drug dog and had seeds they found and then you were busted?.... meaning you actually have a real life experience to back up what your saying or are you just talking outta your ass? (from what i can tell) based just on some stupid fucker with a video on the internet.

If you think i'm being an asshole....then thats your problem.... but i will do whatever it takes to prove an ignorant person wrong....

[balla420]

Originally Posted by jcj77d

hes saying that there are no such thing as dog proof packages, & even if it is just seeds, they came off an mj plant, which can transport mj dust on the seeds. those are my video post, watch them all, youll understand better.

okay.... did you even read my reply? check out my new reply (the one right above this one) and maybe you will understand then.