Quack Doc - Liar, Cheat, and Fraud!

[HowardBeale]

This may sound harsh, but experience has taught me a HUGE lesson!

I ordered from the Doc back in August. Sent cash ($130) from US with clear order details and several alternate choices in the event my first choice was unavailable. Included my email address; never received a single email confirming order, receipt of money or shipment.

After several weeks, I sent an email to the Doc, but NO RESPONSE was received. I sent several additional emails, spaced apart over several ensuing weeks. Still NO RESPONSE. My emails became angrier, but I never received so much as a considerate reply.

Over two weeks ago, giving the Doc the benefit of the doubt (assuming an underpaid postal worker stole my money), I tried a second time. This time, I ordered online with a credit card. I placed two separate orders so that my chances were better of receiving at least one. I received an email for the order confirmation (payment received) on both orders, but I only received an email confirmation of shipment for one of the orders. I verified that my credit card had been charged for both orders (total $225).

A week ago, I sent an email to the Doc to inquire if both orders had been combined (why did I receive shipment confirmation for only one order when payment for both orders had been taken off my credit card?). I included my order # in the subject line. NO RESPONSE.

Last week, I sent another email because I had not received anything yet (mail or email) and to follow up on my unanswered email. Again, I included my order #s in the subject line. NO RESPONSE.

Upon double-checking my order confirmation, I did notice that my country was listed wrong in my address, for which I sent another email to apologize and confirm that this mistake was corrected (it was pretty obvious from my city what the country should be and my second order was completely correct).

When I ordered from Gypsy (cash in mail), I received my order in less than two weeks.

With a loss of $355, I will NEVER order from Doc again, and I will suggest the same to all my buddies. Gypsy from now on....I just hope he gets his online credit card option working again real soon.

[Pooflingaz69]

To me, it just sounds like you've had a string of bad luck! Think of how many dumb stoners are emailing the Doc every day, most of them are probably filled with a bunch of stupidass claims etc. He can't possibly read them all. I'm glad to hear you've had success with Gypsy, though, as i am looking for a new seedbank myself. Anyway, i know where you're coming from as my order was just intercepted as well. But what can you expect? It's the Feds vs. some broke stoners!

[buzb8lvr]

the only thing in your whole post that i can see the Doc is for sure responsible for is not answering his email which i agree sucks. you may have a local post office worker that knows what is up and is snagging your orders every time. have you tried to get help at the Doc's message board www.hg420.com? don't get me wrong, i'd be pissed as hell too, but calling Doc a thief, crook, liar and all that shit seems out of line at this point.

[chimera]

Guy, your subject line infers that you need "no response". Try "doc could you give me an update" might work better. I know that I personally would see the no response and think, I'm to busy just to read an email that wants no reply.

[pokernaut]

doc delivered my orders 2 out of 2 times and promptly at that WITH viable freebies. nirvana was prompt too, but their freebies were dead. i trust the doc enough to place another order for a soon to become extinct strain soon.

sorry to hear your experience.

i'd be inclined to believe that it's a postal employee. i know i've had two out of two money orders that i tried to send to a record store disappear on me, but nothing else.

i bet the less scrupulous in the profession look at those overseas mailing addresses and know that it's something so valuable/rare that it has to be imported.

could even be an unscrupulous neighbor. this is the first doc rant i've ever seen i think.

[pokernaut]

there... i just got back from ordering those (lien huanh X A11g) X A11g seeds before they disappear from stock. if i get them by monday next week, the doc will be 3 for 3 at my location.

[pokernaut]

ordered on monday afternoon or evening, and had my order on saturday just 5 days later. that's 3 for 3 here.

bean snatchers suck!

[D-Dog]

WoW WoW WoW

[D-Dog]

I don't know if I believe this 100 percent.

[Ars moriendi]

am I the only one thinking "....using a credit card? wtf?!?!"?

[spliffdiddy]

Originally Posted by pokernaut

ordered on monday afternoon or evening, and had my order on saturday just 5 days later. that's 3 for 3 here.

bean snatchers suck!

Pokernaught, do you live in the USA or somewhere in Europe?
Spliffdiddy

[pokernaut]

i live across the pond. they ship airmail which is pretty quick.

[Jimi001]

Originally Posted by D-Dog

I don't know if I believe this 100 percent.

Yeah.. like he would make that up..

[pokernaut]

OK... tell me what my motivation would be for lying? i'm ALOT of things... antisocial... impatient with BS and so on, but i'm not a liar!

i've only ordered beans using the UNRECOMMENDED CC purchase option and have NEVER waited more than 7 days for ANY of my orders. what do i have to do, take pics of all of my seed packets to prove that i'm telling the truth?

i DON'T work for any seedbank and only want to share whatever info or experience i can here.

if you want to call me a liar... whydontcha wait a year or so as my post count grows to see all of the people that don't call me a liar.

p.s. read my OWN replies to see the places where i've said "don't take anything i say as 100% gospel" or something to that effect as i opt for the less secure CC method instead of the paranoid money order method which, to me, seems riskier as it's an "open paper trail" to anyone opening your money order and i HAVE had 2 out of 2 money orders sent to record companies disappear and totally fear the same time thing happening with an order for MJ seeds.

whether you believe it or not, i only tell it like it is here and once in a great while might be mistaken about something, but will grudgingly admit it when i am. as to recieving orders i placed on a monday in saturday's mail... that is a FACT and not opinion. there are others here with similar experiences though if you don't believe me unless you don't do your homework before you start pointing your finger.

call me an idiot... call me a big mouth... but DON'T call me a freakin' liar please.

[roach]

you should also consider the fact that often.....very often........

"sellers" appear on discussion boards as members.................often with alts.