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Trying to quit, Panic Attacks + More(Long Read)

Discussion in 'Apprentice Marijuana Consumption' started by Apu, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. EDIT: Forgiveness for my grammar

    So my back story I 19(A few months of 20) I have been smoking since I was 15. But except for 1 week over a year ago I have constantly been high 24/7 not including 1-2 hours after waking up for over 2 1/2 years. I started my journey to quit 7-11 months ago with a very open minded psychiatrist. I cut all my contacts except literally one because they were all smokers and my doctor put me on Valium for the general annoyance of quitting smoking in general because without it I would go into "rage episodes"(Biopolar/ADHD). I made it down to only smoking .5 or below for bedtime and 1-2 bowls in the morning. But then I started increasing again to my current intake of .7-2 grams daily. I have spent a year alone(Except my last friend who happens to be my neighbour) and have developed some sort of social phobia(Nothing to the book my fears are completely irrashional which is confusing). At this point in time 5 hours without a bowl will have a very good chance of putting me into full blown panic attack. I believe this is because all I do is think about life and honestly at the moment I have nothing. No lisence no car no house no money I literally have to steal/scab money to buy the paper for jobs applications(Yes I also use the internet). But there lies my problem the outside now scares me and I have no transport my job must be close. But so far I have just given a life story to help you answer this question.

    How should I Quit/Take a long break from Marijuana. Remembering I have no car, no house, no money, one friend who is also 100% broke and I am scared to venture to far from my house. I believe my curse is boredom whats your opinion GC

    I do not blame Marijuana for this it is my own fault for overusing it with my personality please do not start a flame war
     
  2. Man bud isn't chemically addictive so all of these problems are psychological and should be dealt with properly: with a psychiatrist. Right now you sound like you can't afford their huge bills so just google some of those hotlines that let you talk to counsellors for free. Getting past this social phobia and quitting the buds until you're on track is the first priority.
     
  3. #3 Apu, Aug 15, 2011
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    Please do not turn this into a debate on the addictiveness(Or lack thereof) of bud. I am just looking for help. I wont even give my personal opinion on how I got into this situation

    I believe most of my problems are in my head also, But I am currently seeing a psychiatrist but really all he does is subscribe some pills and hope for the best a temp solution at best, I also tried a psychologist but that was no help what so ever. I believe once I find a job and get back out into the world and can fill my day I can quit but at the moment I sit in my room all day thinking about my life and marijuana. To sum it up. I believe I could quit if something could fill my day I believe I have the willpower to fix this myself but not when I sit in a room 24/7(And I do not even play computer games or have a TV). In closing I have tried things like staying at my step brothers house, Grabbing the Ipod and going for a run. Early on I even joined a gym but once they got going there was to many people there at once for me to feel comfortable

    For the record I have access to any medical help needed for free thanks to my family

    EDIT: I thought I should add the social phobia part of my problem doctors have no idea what to do, It is 100% random, An actual panic attack is triggered by something.
     
  4. You're bipolar and you're being whacked up on pills, that's why you're crazy. And yeah, find a hobby that interests you so you could occupy yourself throughout the day. It's a lot easier to think about smoking weed when you're sitting at home.
     
  5. Spot on my friend. Only problem is with no money, house, car and everyone I knew smokes, How do a find a hobby I have been friends with nothing but tokers for the past 4-5 years I do not even know where to begin. Nothing interests me. I guess when I think about it this was more of a desperate QQ for an idea then a medical discussion
     
  6. #6 jaden420, Aug 15, 2011
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    Find a gf? Get more friends? Go outside? Do Anything?
     
  7. There is no answer to the op's first thread. None of this was caused by marijuana, and its just something you want at the moment. You must have some serious mental conditions to deal with if this is happening. Which should be addressed by a specialist.
     
  8. Check your self into a hospital
     
  9. Your lack of self motivation is depressing me. Just get out and get a job...focus your life on that for a while. Then many of those things you say you dont have, will start coming to you. You're the only one who can make changes in your life, and a bunch of QQ on the internet wont do a damn thing.
     
  10. I highly recommend you start to exercise daily and eat a healthy diet. I used to have social anxiety and depression till I started living a healthy lifestyle. It personally worked wonders for me, and It worked with many others, so I'm 100% positive that it will work for you. :)

    Depression and mental disorders can be prevented and treated with simple healing foods

    Exercise helps fight anxiety, depression - USATODAY.com

    "Now, data pooled from many small studies suggest that in people diagnosed with depression or anxiety, the immediate mood boost is followed by longer-term relief, similar to that offered by medication and talk therapy, says Daniel Landers, a professor emeritus in the department of kinesiology at Arizona State University.
    And exercise seems to work better than relaxation, meditation, stress education and music therapy, Landers says.
    "Most physicians and therapists are aware of the effects," says Chad Rethorst, a researcher at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas. "But they may not be comfortable prescribing it."
    Smits and another researcher, Michael Otto of Boston University, are on a mission to change that. The two have written a guidebook for mental-health professionals and are working on guides for primary care physicians and consumers.
    Ideally, Smits says, depressed or anxious people would get written exercise prescriptions, complete with suggested "doses" and strategies for getting started and sticking with the program.
    One thing that helps people keep up this therapy, he says, is the immediate boost that many report. The same can't be said of taking pills, he says."


    Intense Exercise Helps Combat Panic, Anxiety | Psych Central News



    Plus exercise activates the endocannabinoids so you can get high from exercise :D


    Exercise, endocannabinoids and natural highs | Brain Study


    Exercise activates the endocannabinoid system. [Neuroreport. 2003] - PubMed result


    I had quit using cannabis because of the get feeling I get from exercising and eating a healthy diet full of fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, and fish. I hope that helps! Get well soon!
     

  11. Have you discussed coping mechanisms and management strategies with the shrink? I went through all sorts of psych bullshit a few years ago. Nothin wrong with being put on pills so long as you are employing healthy mental coping strategies with them. Pills alone will not solve your problem. Not even a shrink can cure you. Psychological health is in your hands alone. The doctor may guide you to water, but you must drink of it yourself...so to speak. That's just my experience, and I do not wish to discourage you in the least from seeking help. I also hope that you understand that it is not as direct a relationship between psychiatry and mental health as it is for conventional medicine and physical well-being, though. You're not alone; the world is full of people who have been chewed up, digested and shat out broken; whether through their own decisions or through the acts of others. I've seen various shrinks and counsellors over the years for depression, and I'm very often lonely myself. I often feel like I have zero control over my life; no car, very few friends, between jobs, out in the boondocks. Perhaps that is also part of your problem. I find playing an instrument to be a very good way of expressing myself. Painting, too. Gotta let this shit out. If you can, consider going back to school. Shake it up. Face your fears. Get out of this funk, man. Find something that you feel fulfilling...something that you can take and make your own. Hell, find a cheap beater car and repair it yourself. You'll have something to occupy your time, something that will directly benefit your situation when you are complete, and you might even decide that fixin that sort of shit is right up your alley and it could turn into a career. I find it doesn't matter a damn what I do, as long as I feel like I've accomplished at least something at the end of the day. Hell, even just goin out on a bike collecting pop cans on the side of the road when you're out handing out resume's might be good. Fresh air, exercise, sunshine are all good for releasing endorphin's. Toss the cash into a jar and you've done something with your day.
     
  12. ^ You post that crap on almost every thread
     
  13. if your on valium, you should take it when you have anxiety. im kinda confused as to why weed withdrawal is giving you that type of anxiety. As someone who has anxiety I am the complete opposite as to those symptoms, when I smoke weed I get anxiety and i take anti-anxiety medication to combat that. I can attribute my anxiety to personal problems which you seem to share, the best advice I can give you if you really wanna quit is keep talking to your psychiatrist. You dont want to end up stuck on anti-anxiety medication for the rest of your life because thats the type of medicine it is, but if you truly wish to stop smoking weed and get panic attacks from the withdrawal effects then you might need it but remember that there is no drug with worse withdrawal symptoms then anti-anxiety drugs
     
  14. #14 FlamingBabies, Aug 15, 2011
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    Might not like it, but it is essentially true. I had to quit weed for a few months, and I had difficulty with the anxiety that accompanied cessation. Exercise really helps. If you kick the shit out of yourself enough during the day, you won't need the weed to sleep at night. Not only that, but THC and other cannabinoids bio accumulate in your fat reserves. So after years of toking, when you burn fat...that's right, you get high as the thc is re-released into your bloodstream.
     
  15. I am honestly not trying to be a stick in the mud or troll. A girl sure I enjoy sex but that is it I do not trust anyone therefore will never get serious with one(Also I do not know any non toking woman), I do my small walks to get the paper go down the shops etc, But going to somewhere like town give's me panic attacks.

    I agree and believe I made it very clear its my own personality and over abuse combined with bad life luck not Marijuana's fault and I covered the specialist issue.

    For Marijuana? There is people with much worse problems that need those beds

    I have a ton of motivation, I apply for at least 1 job per day online and hand out resumes locally twice a week. I am the only one who can improve my life but I feel I have exhausted all options(I have also been with 2 job agencies and 1 disability job agency). Remember the job has to be local and not require personal transport

    I am going to have a deep look into the diet options you posted I literally have not eaten a vegetable in years excluding potatoes. First actual answer to my question(No offense to others). I exercise at the moment but I only have weights and I am to "weird" to go running by myself

    Sorry to say everything you mention requires money, School in Australia well certain courses are free. I tried one awhile back I ended up grabbing my bag and sneaking out before lunch I felt like I was going to pass out.
     
  16. My anxiety is purely irrational I can not give a reason for it.
     

  17. Glad to hear that your thinking about changing your eating habits to include vegetables. ^_^ In regards to running, if you have a dog, he/she can be your running partner :D But if you still feel weird about running outside, you can always start off slow and just walk around your neighborhood for an hour a day. When you walk into other people or you make eye contact with someone, just wave your hand and say hello and continue walking. The small talk with strangers will eventually lower your over all social phobia.:)
     
  18. weird, i've cut down smoking and also because i get super high and my heart beats fast and get panick attacks, my tolerance use to be high, no it's kinda non existant. I have some social phobia now, this is gunna sound hilarious, but maybe i'm just getting older and creepy(22). I have a habit of pretty much automatically looking at boobs, i also have add, so i'm like did i look at them, i dunno, then i get awkward because my mind is racing 20x a second wondering if i did look at them lol. I really think as you get old you automatically become a creeper. I don't know though, i have alot of girls that are friends and i don't wanna hit em up, but fuck i feel like a tard oh well what are you gunna do there boobs and they are there.
     
  19. #19 FlamingBabies, Aug 15, 2011
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    I was more giving examples of what I would call a healthy way to think. Think outside the box. Set goals, work towards them. Doesn't need to cost anything. See a cool plant or tree by the side of the road? Take a cutting, nurture it, grow it. Connect with it. Feel like you have achieved something. I completely understand your disinterest with everything and lack of motivation, that's also part and parcel of my depression...but that is precisely what you must overcome.

    I dunno what the financial institutions are like in Australia, but student loans are pretty fuckin easy to get up here in Canada. Didn't mean to rub it in your face that you're strapped for cash or anything. Also, why leave? The social phobia? Nothing worth doing is easy, and its only gunna get harder as time goes by.
     

  20. wrong the metabolites released from the fat cells do not get you high.
     

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