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Old 08-04-2006, 04:41 PM
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this thread wasnt saying that bongs dont get you higher...

they are talking about small percentages of thc and tar ratios..

everyone whos flipping out "OMFG I SMOKE BONGS AND I GET HIGH THIS STUDY IS FAKE"..... its not what its about mannnn

i was literally about to say the same thing
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I straight up just like hitting bongs. Also, I've smoked some quality grass in some quality glass, so my experience might be different.

Due to the increased amount of delicious smoke my lungs are ingesting over and over, I get higher and higher.

It sucks, because I really want to hit a bong, but I'm not getting another few gs for a few more hours, shit.
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Old 08-04-2006, 05:52 PM
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science is science. it either is or isnt. it doesnt make a difference if one issue is bigger than another. experiments that elementary school students do are science. they apply scientific knowledge.

if someone was riding a bike on a dirt trail in the woods, they are mountain biking. then there are people that mountain bike and jump their bikes off 50ft cliffs. now, applying your logic, the first person isnt mountain biking because the second person would think that its easy. WRONG. if the second person had any common sense, they would say the first person is also mountain biking, but not at the level that the second one is.

so, back to the main topic, this is science, just not as advanced as space travel or curing diseases.
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this thread wasnt saying that bongs dont get you higher...

they are talking about small percentages of thc and tar ratios..

everyone whos flipping out "OMFG I SMOKE BONGS AND I GET HIGH THIS STUDY IS FAKE"..... its not what its about mannnn

Umm... You are joking, right? Look at the thread title


This has annoyed me for almost a year now. This weekend I am making the thread to put an end to this ridiculous charade.

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that's stupid. i know a bong rip fucks me up compared to taking a hit off a bowl. period.
There you go. I don't need statistics to tell me that bong rips > normal pipe smoking
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First of all, damn the rep limiter. This was an excellent post.





Umm... You are joking, right? Look at the thread title


This has annoyed me for almost a year now. This weekend I am making the thread to put an end to this ridiculous charade.

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im never gonna stop smokin bongs... there the shit and if u think ur losing THC, have u ever smoked a join or a blunt u lose sooo much from them... but we all love blunts dont we? i say fuck the study, im gonna bust out my bong and do some hits just to spite it right now!!
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THC isnt water soluable, so it wont dissolve into water, so the water wont absorbe any THC from the smoke

now it will catch the resin in the water, and that is why the smoke is smoother/ cleaner and resin has 10X the THC in it ..if im not mistaken
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Resin, or pipe tar is actually very low in potency. It does get you high and I remember when I first started smoking I got really high off it. But it definitely isn't 10X as strong.


Studies have shown that although tricomes are not water soluable (hash, kif) that when smoked THC has been shown to be lessened in machines developed to test it when filtered through a waterpipe.

However the results are very strange in that they deem waterpipes "counterproductive" but people are saying something totally different.

Therefore there is a reason for the test results saying what they say but people saying they get higher- and it's not placebo and it's not lack of oxygen.


This weekend I'm going to make a new thread that discusses this and we will put an end to "waterpipes are counterproductive". It's a charade that has gone on long enough.
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THC isnt water soluable, so it wont dissolve into water, so the water wont absorbe any THC from the smoke

now it will catch the resin in the water, and that is why the smoke is smoother/ cleaner and resin has 10X the THC in it ..if im not mistaken
how the hell do stoners try ignoring thermal transfer ...I'll never know

just because a substance dissolves in alcohol but not water readily doesn't freakin' mean the coolness of bong water doesn't flash freeze tons of thc right back into a solid state in the water or on the glass

face it the more surface you work with the colder it is and the more water you filter with (diffuser or just loaded to the max bong) the less everything you get including thc

bongs are worse and no 'quality' glass bullshit is gonna change that fact now try water below the downstem and a vapor bowl

thats about as close as a bong will ever get to being worth the use of your bud

cashing a bowl to blackness is just stupid and your water is now tar and thc muck not worth drinking...you can drink vapor bong juice :P
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"Chronic smoking of marijuana can lead to respiratory ailments associated with smoke inhalation. A 1995 study suggests that use of a bong or water pipe does not necessarily lower the overall ratio of particulate matter to THC and may be counterproductive. In other words, it lowers the particulate matter, but it also lowers the amount of THC. For the same effects, a person may have to smoke more...thus raising particulate matter back to a level equal to that inhaled from unfiltered sources (joint or pipe)."

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...s_health.shtml

This tells me that bongs are a waste of money and are only good for taking less harsh of hits if you have to money to spend on more weed.........

hahahahahaha u got owned on that one buddy. lol try smokin istead of readin bout it
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I notice a trend here...

seems all the pro-bong folks are mistaking lack of oxygen for being high

cuz thc doesn't make you act like a tard...not even a 9 day tweek binge would make someone sound like the person above
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Well obviously bongs do work, and nobody would sensibly argue otherwise. I do find that when I smoke out of a bong more, I go through weed faster. I get higher faster, but I use a lot of pot. I also never thought about the thermal transfer deal that Ars mentioned. Also, I remember DBW(I think it was her) doing an experiment with weed coffee. While the THC doesn't dissolve in the water, it did still get filtered out some. It sat oily on top of the coffee.

I still think my bongs have their place, but I definately don't use them exclusively.
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Soo all this thermal tranfer bajucky, yeah bet you havnt heard that one bust out ever before, sometimes I like to use boiling water in my bong, does it "flash freeze" my precious THC then too?

And yeah. Who the fuck cares how much THC bongs waste? its obviously a unnoticble/barely noticble amount, so what does it matter as long as you get high your favorite way?
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^ by your silly logic we should just shit in our hands cuz its easier avoiding the walkto the toilet


lets see.... thcs flash point is in the 390's your water is around 110 maybe 120 degrees...yeah its gonna solidify more thc than you can inhale
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