The bong no good and waste of money.......EROWID facts

[Canabudz]

so is there a verdict? or is it still fact vs results

[Fppunk]

Originally Posted by Hakennase

that's stupid. i know a bong rip fucks me up compared to taking a hit off a bowl. period.

/agree i get way more stoned off a few bong rips than a few pipe or joint rips

[Ars moriendi]

^ thats because you don't know how to hit a pipe or joint properly

hitting a bong is idiot proof... no worry no tiny particles tricking out the do-dad in your throat no nothing

learn to hit your dry pieces joints 'n vaporizers correctly and you'll be smashed off .2 or less every time

tolerance isn't the issue with pot it's all about your throat 'n lungs getting 'stupid' after you smoke for days on end

you basically don't get a lung full or your throat does a flip flop your stomach muscles relax and you end up with a stomach fulla smoke or a hacking fit instead of a mellow slow exhale that ends in a mild cough or two

at which point you b-line for the kitchen instead of more weed

[xXSuperXdroXx]

ars im sorry



but if i put .2 in my dry spoon, or i put .2 in my roor perc.


i will get higher off my roor perc. EVERYTIME.


maybe some bongs, but not all bongs are a waste of money

[IGotTheCottons]

I agree totally with Ars... Don't get me wrong, though... I definitely love smoking bongs/bubblers... BUT I find that I get a lot more high for longer if I smoke a blunt or a nice joint. My weed also goes around a lot longer, too. I can have 2 grams... Put one in a bong and the other in a blunt, and have the blunt go around in a 3 head rotation a couple times -- whereas the bong would only make it around said rotation once, and it'd be cashed...

You might get more high per hit with a bong (which I also find is not nearly as long lasting), but your weed makes it around more in a blunt/joint where people have to take smaller hits.

It's comparable to when you eat... If you take huge bites of food, and eat very quickly, you're not getting as much from your meal... But if you slow it down a bit, and take smaller bites, you'll find that you're a lot more satisfied.

Same can be said with the bong vs blunt/joint debate. If you take only a few huge rips vs. a lot of smaller rips, you'll find (more often than not) that you get more from taking a lot of smaller rips than from a few huge ones...

If you really think about it, who's going to hold a whole bong-full of smoke in your lungs long enough for all that THC to absorb (lots more smoke with a bong also = lots more THC and lots more time for said THC to absorb) before exhaling the hit??? I don't know very many people who can take large rips and actually hold them for a good amount of time. More often than not, the hit is exhaled just a few seconds after it's taken -- releasing all that precious THC into the atmosphere... It's not that way with blunts, though.

But like I said earlier... I like bongs and shit... But I like blunts/joints better. They're more efficient, easier to conceal, and you don't have to constantly empty/repack/relight them... Not to mention they get you higher, and the high lasts longer

[mushroomsatsuji]

I dont give a shit either way. Both joints and bongs get me high, and thats exactly what I want.

[xXSuperXdroXx]

cottons, if i take my weed. and put all 2 grams of into a blunt. ill be high for 2 hours.


if i pack snappers and smoke them out of my roor. i will be high all day, and still have some left over.


idk what kind of bong you have. But i dont pack 2 gram bowls, and i dont have a bowl that would fit 2 grams.


idk thats just how i smoke though, others are different. IMO i waste more when i smoke joints or blunts

[DJ1337]

I've only smoke out of bong a couple of times because I don't have one (they're damn expensive and I'd rather spend that money on pot) and I didn't notice much difference between getting hight on a bong and getting high on a joint.

That being said, I ain't never buying a bong cause I like joints much better due to their portability. A couple of nights ago I was drinking gin-tonic and smoking a joint with two friends in a tree and it was pretty damn awesome. To me setting is half the experience, and I just wouldn't feel comfortable trying to climb a tree with a bong or even a pipe in my hand.

As for the health factor, I don't really give a damn as I'm rolling my joints 1/2 pot 1/2 tobacco anyway.

[cigga-dro]

haha obviously the people who did the study and the person who made this thread hasnt had much experience with water bongs. bongs get u fucked up, and no one can say "i used a bong, and didnt get high"

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by xXSuperXdroXx

cottons, if i take my weed. and put all 2 grams of into a blunt. ill be high for 2 hours.


if i pack snappers and smoke them out of my roor. i will be high all day, and still have some left over.


idk what kind of bong you have. But i dont pack 2 gram bowls, and i dont have a bowl that would fit 2 grams.


idk thats just how i smoke though, others are different. IMO i waste more when i smoke joints or blunts

But you don't have to put 2 grams into a blunt to get a decent blunt. I can roll .5 into a blunt and get 2 people nice and toasty. That blunt will go around (on a 2-hit pass) about 4-6 times. If I smoke that same .5 in a bong (an averaged size slide can hold .5 - from my experiences anyway) I'll be lucky if I can get more than 3 hits before the bowl is cashed. And I don't recall saying I put 2 G's in my bong... I said...

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

I can have 2 grams... Put one in a bong and the other in a blunt, and have the blunt go around in a 3 head rotation a couple times -- whereas the bong would only make it around said rotation once, and it'd be cashed...

Like I said in my first post, though. I enjoy bongs, bubblers, bowls, blunts, joints, whatever. I like to mix it up, and I really don't care if one gets me higher than another. Each method has its pros and cons, and everyone has their method of choice. To each his/her own

[TheColonel]

Originally Posted by The Joint Guy

i mean if u care about ur health that much get a volcano...but ill still be hittig my bong till the end of my days

Exactly. I'm straight with my 98% pure thc vapor. Only one POSSIBLE PAH (not even confirmed as of now).

There's always going to be a better way to do shit. That doesnt render bongs obsolete or anything.


There's a method for everyone. Nobody's saying that bongs dont do shit.
If bongs get you high, and you like them, thats awesome! Keep using them. Theres no need to come in here and say, "bongs get me high, so they arent a waste". The OP's thread title definitely blows things out of proportion.
They most certainly are not a waste. They arent the best thing since sliced bread either.

After smoking daily from the vaporizer, bongs really dont do much for me anymore. I get much higher off of a small spliff (.2-.5) than i would out of the same amount of bong hits. Bingers are very short lived highs imo.

Originally Posted by MuttMunchies

That study was flawed. THC isnt even water soluble...whoever said THC is lost doesn't know shit. Bongs are extremely efficient, only a really nice vaporizer is more efficient

Hate that the title of this thread says "FACTS", this is all crap not facts

Could you, or anyone else, please present some facts of your own?

How is that study flawed? The water solubility factor has been adressed. There are other factors going on.

Originally Posted by TheColonel

THC solubility in water really isnt the major issue. H20 Absorbs .28g/100ml @ 23C, so its not that much of a difference. Might be a noticeable difference for the hypersensitive, but for most, probly not.

The real issue is the filtration of tars (or lack thereof), which it does not do effectively when compared to the delivery of "active cannabinoids" (read. THC AS WELL AS other cannabinoids that produce psychoactive reactions).

Its not just THC we're talking about here folks. THC is a nice % that we can all rally around and get excited about when we see it in high numbers, but it doesnt make the experience. There are so many different cannabinoids in weed. Click on my "want to learn about herb" and check out the main cannabinoids/boiling points/and theraputic effects chart. theres much more going on in cannabis than just thc. These constituents are also slightly soluble in water and do become filtered out and can effect the high (again, maybe not to everyone, but to those who are sensitive).

Even if you dont feel any difference in the effect, the actual efficiency of good stuff to bad is worse off with a bong than through a joint pretty much any way you look at it.

What exactly is wrong with the science behind these claims that bongs are less efficient with respect to the ratio of Cannabinoid delivery to the Filtration of Harmful byproducts when compared tp 1.) a hand rolled joint 2.) a vaporizer (duh!)

[bashthefash]

My bong saves me money I smoke smaller amounts of weed in a sitting and get as high or more high then a joint would get me with more weed in it then my bolw.

[floridaguy19]

I know bongs get me high, but to anyone who said bongs will get you most high there's no way you hit a volcano.

A .2 of dank would get you ripped with a volcano, bongs are awesome and fun with friends, but a volcano and vaporizers will always be my THC injesting method of choice.

I mean c'mon, it's healthier and more efficient, what's not to love?

[emagdnim13]

This is going to go on forever.

To each his own...


To me, the bong will always dominate smoking...

And Ars, the bong is definitely not idiot proof...there are ways to smoke a bong to conserve the hell out of weed...and ways to burn through it...just like any other piece.

Lately, I've been packing bowls of 0.1g or less and barely letting the ember catch from the lighter...and I try to make that ember light the entire bowl. It takes just as long to milk as a fat 0.2g or small 0.3g snap...but it's much less....and there's no loss of high from smoking less either.

[Jimi001]

The verdict is in: blunts are the best.