The bong no good and waste of money.......EROWID facts

[MadTokez]

isnt thc not water solluble? I thought that only alchohol and fat could trap thc which is why they are needed for cooking.

[patrick]

bongs fuckin rock ...

[Metlhed01]

just hit mah bong. yup, it works.

[Heavy_D]

biggest load of crap ever.

[Shrum]

Originally Posted by Hakennase

that's stupid. i know a bong rip fucks me up compared to taking a hit off a bowl. period.

that's stupid, because a rip off your bong has about two to three times the amount of smoke that a rip off your pipe does. The bong doesnt make the smoke more potent or anything, just delivers the smoke faster so you get high faster. But you dont get any higher in the long run. period.

[Blazin'Talon]

Can we like........not post in this thread anymore....'cause it's old and every point anyone could make in it has been beaten to death. Twice. Then brought up a couple times with personal attacks and whatever else. It's silly, and pointless.

Pretty please?

[Floydian]

Originally Posted by Blazin'Talon

Can we like........not post in this thread anymore....'cause it's old and every point anyone could make in it has been beaten to death. Twice. Then brought up a couple times with personal attacks and whatever else. It's silly, and pointless.

Pretty please?

Indeed.

I think we've pretty much came to the conclusion that no one is going to stop using their bong. Lol.

[TonyPeaches]

Originally Posted by redzeppelin

What the FUCK!!! everyone just needs to chill, slow down and take another hit. Why do people need to bring negativity to our culture. Who cares about the science of smoking weed. Is it about nit-picking about all the facts or having a good time. Seriously, who cares whether or not there is this or that. The fact is WE are all a big FAMILY. We all love each other and cannabis. Peace and love Blades, get over the fact that we don't see eye to eye, that's just human nature, see past that, see past propaganda, see past people telling us what to do when they never have smoked marijuana. Please people, respect each other.

AMEN. chill out and smoke a bowl bros, or if you don't have any weed cool your asses down by taking a nice ride (or walk, good luck if you're up north though) to pick up a bag

[Digit]

i stand by my bong too.

i've looked at these studies a few times before, and they always seem to be missing out on many factors, their heads burried in numbers missing some of the more obvious points..... like a joint is constantly reaking, a joint contains paper, and most likely, tobacco... in that circumstance, short of putting tobacco in a bong* there is no fucking way a bong can be worse for your respiritory system than a joint.

rate of uptake and metabolism also plays a crucial role in the absorbtion of cannabis into the body. by cooling the smoke, you are able to take more in one time, reducing the need for prolongued exposure to multiple hits and i'll bet the per duration and per volume of smoke, bongs stand out a long way in terms of efficiency of effect.

anyone who has spent some time developing, designing and constructing bongs will tell you, bubble size and the water volume (even shape) also play crucial roles in determining the effect of your bong. at one extreme, the very small bubbles, ones pulled through some kind of strainer/difuser will often contain far too much water in the smoke, and could cause an unpleasant cough that can last for hours or days.


the ratio of thc (and other cannabinoids) to unwanted particulate matter is not something to ignore... its just not the be all and end all of toking efficiency.

bongs are best for high quality hash anyways, in which you'd have very little else besides the thcs & cannabinoids.

also, i noticed in one study i read on this that they actually termed THC as a tar! so it completely skewed the results, probably so far as to show the inverse of the true matter at hand.


but really....

eating....

we all know eating is the cleanest best way.... once you know how to manage your doesage correctly.



* i made a thread about that somewhere. ;D

[fluffykush]

lol a 1995 study...wtf did they know back then? NADA!!!
use common sense please...it doesnt take more hits outta the bong to get you as high.

[IGotTheCottons]

This shows how reliable erowid is... This is taken from one of their pages...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...shtml#problems

<blockquote>Dose
The strength of cannabis varies greatly from one variety to another. Some, known as 'one-hit-shit', requires only a single lung-full to reach full effects while other varieties require many hits to achieve the same effects. Additionally, the amount that one individual likes to smoke can be many times what another prefers. <b>Generally, 1/8 ounce (3.5 g) of mid-quality bud <u>could get around 20-30 people reasonably high</u>.</b></blockquote>

^^^^

LMFAO! Since when can 1/8th of mids get 20-30 people high? Shit... 1/8th of the dankest shit on earth isn't enough to get that many people even buzzed...

[General Blaze]

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

This shows how reliable erowid is... This is taken from one of their pages...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...shtml#problems

<blockquote>Dose
The strength of cannabis varies greatly from one variety to another. Some, known as 'one-hit-shit', requires only a single lung-full to reach full effects while other varieties require many hits to achieve the same effects. Additionally, the amount that one individual likes to smoke can be many times what another prefers. <b>Generally, 1/8 ounce (3.5 g) of mid-quality bud <u>could get around 20-30 people reasonably high</u>.</b></blockquote>

^^^^

LMFAO! Since when can 1/8th of mids get 20-30 people high? Shit... 1/8th of the dankest shit on earth isn't enough to get that many people even buzzed...

heh i kno where your commin from cottens,

but imho when erowid refers to mid quality bud im sure they mean dank.

they would break it down like this...i think

homegrown/heads

Dank/commercial

mids/swag

ionno maybe an 8th of dank could get like 15 people high with g bongs...

[Predator1]

For Christ's sake...this thread has been going on for too long. Let me summarize everything for people who dont want to read it:

Some person with a bullshit degree from some nowhere-college says the bong is no good.
Stoners fight back with disputable facts they find on the interweb.
Bullshit man fights back with disputable facts he finds from somwhere.
Stoners continue to use bongs because bongs are fun and wonderful.

End.

[willZ]

Originally Posted by kennybob12

bongs are god's gift to man. they may lower than THC %, but only in a small insignificant amount. They allow you to take the biggest hits in your life, and last time i checked, the bigger the hit, the higher you are. They cool the smoke, amplify the amount of smoke you can take, they filter out several impurities including a decent amount of tar, and they look cool as hell. So BONGS ARE NOT A WASTE OF MONEY AND THEY HELP MORE THAN THEY HURT.

the time is....4:20

Exactly, well said

[JRoller]

Originally Posted by Ars moriendi

Oh yes gee whoda thunk the quality of melted sand has everything to do with the level of thc...

The glass makes little difference the surface area and temp do you're losing tons of tar and thc using any sort of large water filtered pipe

You can think whatever you want the thermal transfer surface tension and overall size of a bong make for waste :P

I'm sorry to tell you...but your just wrong...virtually no THC is lost. Tar is filtered (look at a hookah using tabacco, some of the tar in a tabacco hookah is filtered, the same applies to bongs with ganj), but probablly not that much tar. The main reason I use a bong is it takes the sting out of the inhalation and makes me cough less. I actually prefer joints and pipes but if my throat hurts due to allergies or something I will use a bong cause I coughing on ganj just sucks nuts.