Having Sons May Shorten Mom's Life

justme · #1 (**permalink**) 05-17-2002, 08:31 PM

High all...this just struck me as down right hilarious...

Peace,

Having Sons May Shorten Mom's Life

By PAUL RECER
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (May 10) - Having sons may have shortened the lives of mothers centuries ago, while daughters added years to the maternal life span, according to a study based on church and family records.

The study analyzed life, death and births among a group of Finnish nomads in the days before modern medicine. It found that the life span of mothers was reduced by about 34 weeks per son, but was extended by a daughter who grew to adulthood.

Baby sons, researchers suggest in the study appearing Friday in the journal Science, make a much greater physical demand on the mother's body than do the typically smaller daughters and this may actually lead to a shorter life for the mother.

``Boys are usually born much heavier than girls,'' said Samuli Helle, a researcher at the University of Turku in Finland and the study's co-author. ``It seems that boys are much more demanding to produce than girls.''

Helle said the conclusion is based on church family records kept in Finland for a nomadic people called the Sami during the period 1640 to 1870. He said the toll on mothers' lives of having sons may not apply in the era of modern medicine.

``Nowadays we have better medical care,'' Helle said. ``Resources are not as likely to limit females' life span. There might be some effect, but it will not be as huge as in the Sami people.''

Helle and his co-authors used the records because of their accuracy and because they gave a measure of the effects of natural mortality before advance medical care.

The study concentrated on women who produced children and then went on to live past age 50. The researchers found that women who gave birth to sons had a shorter life span than those who had only daughters. Typically, a mother's life was shortened by about 34 weeks per son.

Having daughters who were raised to adulthood diminished the effect, actually helping the mothers to live longer, Helle said.

``You can actually cancel the negative effect (on life span) of one boy by producing about three girls,'' said Helle. ``The girls stayed in their natal group for quite a long time. All the children had a great influence on their parents' lives, but the girls had a more positive effect than the boys.''

During the study period, Sami families typically had four children per generation. The children tended to stay with the family, creating an extended family group that spanned several generations.

The Sami were a nomadic people who followed the migration of reindeer. They led a hard life, but they were very successful, said Helle. Infant mortality in the group was very low, so there was ``no need to produce compensating children to replace those who died at an early age,'' he said.

During the preindustrial era, the life span average about 62 years for both men and women, said Helle. This was far longer than in many cultures during that era. Today, the average life span of a Finn is about 81 years for women and about 74 years for men.

05/10/02 05:54 EDT

Copyright 2002 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.

cowboysaxman · #2 (**permalink**) 05-17-2002, 11:24 PM

Doe's that mean Daughters shorten the Dad's life span??LOL

With Son's, a Dad only has to worry about one Lil' dick, with Daughters, they have to worry about everyone around!!!

:

: lol

DaWodin · #3 (**permalink**) 05-18-2002, 04:38 AM

guess im killin my mom

Bud Head · #4 (**permalink**) 05-18-2002, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cowboysaxman
Doe's that mean Daughters shorten the Dad's life span??LOL

With Son's, a Dad only has to worry about one Lil' dick, with Daughters, they have to worry about everyone around!!! : : lol

Thats whats been on my mind lately. I will have to change my out look on thingss or my daughter won't never have a boy friend!!!!!!

cowboysaxman · #5 (**permalink**) 05-18-2002, 05:18 PM

My Daughter was VERY pissed at Dad, when I decided I HAD to clean my shotgun while meeting her first date!!!! LOL Didn't know a young mans eyes could stay soooo big and round for soooo long!!!!

: lol

:

Bud Head · #6 (**permalink**) 05-18-2002, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cowboysaxman
My Daughter was VERY pissed at Dad, when I decided I HAD to clean my shotgun while meeting her first date!!!! LOL Didn't know a young mans eyes could stay soooo big and round for soooo long!!!! : lol :

lmao

Digit · #7 (**permalink**) 05-20-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud Head

Thats whats been on my mind lately. I will have to change my out look on thingss or my daughter won't never have a boy friend!!!!!!

hey bud head, that may be so, but if he's willing to stand through your fire for your daughter, maybe he's worth it?

toke on man.

kindbudhero · #8 (**permalink**) 05-20-2005, 09:25 PM

Dude what dosnt shorten ur life

Nutrino · #9 (**permalink**) 06-01-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboysaxman

Doe's that mean Daughters shorten the Dad's life span??LOL

With Son's, a Dad only has to worry about one Lil' dick, with Daughters, they have to worry about everyone around!!!

:

: lol

hahahha..thats real funny

The Lemon · #10 (**permalink**) 06-01-2008, 10:23 AM

Too high, didn't fully read it. But can someone tell me if:

"Sons=[Physical+Mental+Marital+etc.] strain= stress

Daughters=[Household+cooking+"servant complex"+etc.] aid=less stress"

was the basic premise of the article? Or at least summarize it?

Thanks

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#1 (permalink) 05-17-2002, 08:31 PM
justme just me...;) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: usa Posts: 242	Having Sons May Shorten Mom's Life High all...this just struck me as down right hilarious... Peace, Having Sons May Shorten Mom's Life By PAUL RECER .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (May 10) - Having sons may have shortened the lives of mothers centuries ago, while daughters added years to the maternal life span, according to a study based on church and family records. The study analyzed life, death and births among a group of Finnish nomads in the days before modern medicine. It found that the life span of mothers was reduced by about 34 weeks per son, but was extended by a daughter who grew to adulthood. Baby sons, researchers suggest in the study appearing Friday in the journal Science, make a much greater physical demand on the mother's body than do the typically smaller daughters and this may actually lead to a shorter life for the mother. ``Boys are usually born much heavier than girls,'' said Samuli Helle, a researcher at the University of Turku in Finland and the study's co-author. ``It seems that boys are much more demanding to produce than girls.'' Helle said the conclusion is based on church family records kept in Finland for a nomadic people called the Sami during the period 1640 to 1870. He said the toll on mothers' lives of having sons may not apply in the era of modern medicine. ``Nowadays we have better medical care,'' Helle said. ``Resources are not as likely to limit females' life span. There might be some effect, but it will not be as huge as in the Sami people.'' Helle and his co-authors used the records because of their accuracy and because they gave a measure of the effects of natural mortality before advance medical care. The study concentrated on women who produced children and then went on to live past age 50. The researchers found that women who gave birth to sons had a shorter life span than those who had only daughters. Typically, a mother's life was shortened by about 34 weeks per son. Having daughters who were raised to adulthood diminished the effect, actually helping the mothers to live longer, Helle said. ``You can actually cancel the negative effect (on life span) of one boy by producing about three girls,'' said Helle. ``The girls stayed in their natal group for quite a long time. All the children had a great influence on their parents' lives, but the girls had a more positive effect than the boys.'' During the study period, Sami families typically had four children per generation. The children tended to stay with the family, creating an extended family group that spanned several generations. The Sami were a nomadic people who followed the migration of reindeer. They led a hard life, but they were very successful, said Helle. Infant mortality in the group was very low, so there was ``no need to produce compensating children to replace those who died at an early age,'' he said. During the preindustrial era, the life span average about 62 years for both men and women, said Helle. This was far longer than in many cultures during that era. Today, the average life span of a Finn is about 81 years for women and about 74 years for men. 05/10/02 05:54 EDT Copyright 2002 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. __________________ "We have grasped the mystery of the atom and rejected the Sermon on the Mount … The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants." ~Omar Bradley~ "The greatest thing a human being ever does in this world is to see something. To see clearly is poetry, prophecy, and religion, all in one." ~John Ruskin~

#2 (permalink) 05-17-2002, 11:24 PM
cowboysaxman Old School Stoner Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nor Cal. Star Posts: 1,811	Bad news for Mom's!! lol Doe's that mean Daughters shorten the Dad's life span??LOL With Son's, a Dad only has to worry about one Lil' dick, with Daughters, they have to worry about everyone around!!! : : lol __________________ Somedays it's just not worth chewing through the straps :smoking Never go anywhere in the Galaxy without a towel! Never make a lover a priority, when you are only an option! O.F.F.F. Sgt of Arms & H.S.S. Life Member

#3 (permalink) 05-18-2002, 04:38 AM
DaWodin Old School Stoner Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 647	guess im killin my mom

#5 (permalink) 05-18-2002, 05:18 PM
cowboysaxman Old School Stoner Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Nor Cal. Star Posts: 1,811	Lmao!! Been there done that!! STILL worryin' as a matter o' fact!! lol My Daughter was VERY pissed at Dad, when I decided I HAD to clean my shotgun while meeting her first date!!!! LOL Didn't know a young mans eyes could stay soooo big and round for soooo long!!!! : lol : __________________ Somedays it's just not worth chewing through the straps :smoking Never go anywhere in the Galaxy without a towel! Never make a lover a priority, when you are only an option! O.F.F.F. Sgt of Arms & H.S.S. Life Member

#8 (permalink) 05-20-2005, 09:25 PM
kindbudhero Toker Smoker Joker Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: dude if i even knew i would say Posts: 324	Dude what dosnt shorten ur life __________________ Smoking weed is alot like masterbation you grab your pipe and empty your sack. Pack it , Roll it, Stick it in a bong, Smoke it toke it all night long I realized i got high so much that.......what was i going to say? "good mesculin comes on slow the first hour is all waiting then the second hour you curse the freak who burned you casue nothing is happening then WAMOO" jonny depp fear and loathing

#10 (permalink) 06-01-2008, 10:23 AM
The Lemon Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Washington Posts: 284	Too high, didn't fully read it. But can someone tell me if: "Sons=[Physical+Mental+Marital+etc.] strain= stress Daughters=[Household+cooking+"servant complex"+etc.] aid=less stress" was the basic premise of the article? Or at least summarize it? Thanks

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