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Old 01-05-2005, 11:36 PM
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Are we abusing this drug? *Controversial*

I was just thinking today... you know how normal americans will sit back and drink maybe once a week or once every other week if that. Since most of us here smoke at least once a day or more than once a week does that mean we are abusing this drug and not just using it for a relaxation but more of an alternative to living a normal life? I dont know what to believe I just know I will smoke almost everyday when I get out of this class but I just wanted to know your opinions.
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Old 01-05-2005, 11:39 PM
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there are some people out there who do abuse it.............many people become psychologically addicted to it by means of using it as an antidote for depression............then some people just cant live without it and feel like they cant go on.......but for the rest of us non-abusers as long as we use it in moderation we will be fine.........we arent harming anyone.........
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Old 01-05-2005, 11:46 PM
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don't let them brain wash you into beleaving we are doing a bad thing when we toke up. for me its just something that helps me out socially and maybe just to get me through the day
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Old 01-05-2005, 11:47 PM
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this is how i see it i dont think were abusing it, people take meds and drugs every day only if u become dependent on it then ur addicted. im an everyday toker. also, it all depends on whats ur reasons for smoking...good thread
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drug abuse is a general term and unfortunately since it's illegal and has no medical value in the gov'ts mind any marijuana use is considered abuse. Our own opinions are gonna be much different from the governments though, but I think even in science they consider recreation drug use to get high as abuse. I'm not sure really, abuse sounds a little too strong to me, but I think many people smoke too much I guess. It doesn't really matter as long as they're happy.
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Old 01-05-2005, 11:56 PM
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don't let them brain wash you into beleaving we are doing a bad thing when we toke up. for me its just something that helps me out socially and maybe just to get me through the day
Oh dude, lol, don't worry. My drug class is so chill.... all we do in there is talk about the amount of bud we are going to buy when we get out of the class. Our teacher talks about him smokin bud and shit too... they don't detour us from smoking they just want us to stay clean for the remainder of the class. The only reason we go there is to pee and then watch football like last night when I went, we got to watch usc vs. oklahoma.

Anyways, back to topic. I think if it is medicinally used there is no abuse being done but if it is people toking up every hour or so then yeah I think it is being abused. I honestly don't care if people will think I am abusing when I smoke, if it makes my life more enjoyable then I am all for it.
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i see abusing as using it to a point where it begins to damage your life. i would never smoke so much weed that it would begin to fuck my life up... thats counter-productive to the whole point of marijuana
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haha im not abusing it cause i dont need it,i just really like it, its a hobby really hahahahaha. i dunno its not making my life worse so i guess not
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Most of it depends on usage. If you smoke once a day, but its only a bowl or two, I wouldn't say that's abuse. After all, it's an American pastime to have a few beers after work, no? If you don't even use it everyday, it wouldn't be abuse at all unless you smoked a lot everyday for 6 days and took a break on one day. Abuse is hard to measure with marijuana because its negative effects are so subtle. We know that chronic tobacco use will lead to cancer and shit, and chronic drinking will lead to cirrhosis of the liver. For now, we will leave tobacco out of this because it isn't on the same level as alcohol. Also, heavy drinking will have a negative effect on other parts of your life as well; 95% of the time alcoholics end up losing their jobs and friends and shit at some point. Marijuana on the other hand is tougher to gauge. How harmful marijuana use is remains unclear, although most tokers and nontokers agree that it isn't good for you. "Abuse" is tough to define universally.

To me, however, I think that once it has a negative effect on your job and relationships, it's abuse. That's why I like to keep my smoking to weekends only, that way you can really enjoy it.

I do think that marijuana is far less dangerous than alcohol. I'd much rather be driven by a stoned person than even a mildly drunk one.
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To me, however, I think that once it has a negative effect on your job and relationships, it's abuse. That's why I like to keep my smoking to weekends only, that way you can really enjoy it.
WF and invadergir really got it down...its not abuse until it has a negative effect on your life...i use to smoke 4-6 times a week, and i still had great grades and relationships, but i cut down a little because i started to feel dependant on it
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You never know how much you abuse it until you try and quit without HAVING to quit. If you can quit with no real problems than nah your fine keep smoking.
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No way, man.

Very few of those who smoke actually are abusing the drug -- which to mean would mean over-using it on a regular basis and letting it effect your life patterns or thought patterns or something like that in a truly negative way ... not to say we shouldn't allow people to do that.

So ... no.
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ever since my stopping of the mj (probation) i've been nothing but depressed...(my old normal self coming back)........before i started tok'n......i was like this.....all the time....depressed.........on once in a red moon.....i'll be a little up beat....but that'll soon (SOON) go away and i'll be back to my normal self again......

but....when i got high for my first time....i was happy.......I WAS HAPPY......from then on....i was extremely more happier on EVEN OFF the mj...I now had ambitions...i loved to hang out with friends alot!! (before..i was more antisocial...and alot of the times i would just not feel like hanging out bc i'll be depressed....) but now since i have been forced to stopped....(its been a month now) at first i thought "hey maybe i can be happy with out the mj" and i was for about 2 weeks....then the same old feelings came back.....i don't want to sound crazy (which i think i am..... ) but sometimes i get depressed and think of scenes in my head of what i can do to my self....to kill my self....(when depressed...which is most of the time...) but now since i know what it feels like to be happy.....its a constant mind battle!!

in my head i'll tell my self "stfu and stop whinning and complaining how bad your life is..YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY AND THEY LOVE YOU AND YOU HAVE A GOOD LIFE" so i'll perk up and have a good time...for a bit then it'll just come back.....(with out the mj).....

why have i told all of this personal stuff to you guys? (well for one i love every single one of you like my family and friends) bc the mj helped me medically.....mentally.....it....made me happy and it just opened up the doors and let me see and experience life and how great it is....

i never did smoke alot but when i did i lovvvvved it........if i had an option....i would bake anytime anywhere...any amount....so i considered my self not abusing the mj....


looks like i'm gonna be depressed until may......(probation ends).....fuck.... (sorry for the rant)
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i'd say the line separating moderation from abuse is different for everyone. for me, i found that if i smoke once everyday, it messes with my depression. so, i've decided to cut back to weekends only and if i feel like there's no harm then do it once in a while during the week. i think most people's problem is they start out smoking an unnecessary amount when they first get into it. i think some people need to start small and work their way up to whatever they are comfortable with and so it doesn't interfere with daily routine or in my case depression.
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Whos to say what constitutes abuse? I think as long as you dont hurt anyone else or yourself (not talking about health) then your fine
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