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Old 02-27-2009, 08:04 AM
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

just so ya know sugar leaves have way more thc than stems so i have know clue where you got that lil piece of info. amd honestly do you think anyone is going to make hash with you recipe when your telling them to use seeds also? i mean come on your not even trying here.
 
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:06 AM
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

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inefficient & impure is all i have to say about my experiences with blender hash.
have fun.

you're a doctor? seem a little immature for a doctor.. want to prescribe me prometh / codeine>?


Tyrone biggums. First of all, the weed is at the wheel here, so perhaps you're reading in some tone. Second, Prometh codeine or rather Potas Guaico/Phenylephrine/codeine/promethazine can be found over the counter in the UK.

But this is all irrelevant to just one of my hash recipes. I can tell you that we have customers at the club who ask when we're making more. We do isopropyl too, but we still sell the blender method. maybe it's the difference between slow churned ice cream and regular hard serve, but it sells.

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Old 02-27-2009, 08:11 AM
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

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Tyrone biggums. First of all, the weed is at the wheel here, so perhaps you're reading in some tone. Second, Prometh codeine or rather Potas Guaico/Phenylephrine/codeine/promethazine can be found over the counter in the UK.

But this is all irrelevant to just one of my hash recipes. I can tell you that we have customers at the club who ask when we're making more. We do isopropyl too, but we still sell the blender method. maybe it's the difference between slow churned ice cream and regular hard serve, but it sells.


you have got to be joking me.

this dude SERIOSULY...

straight-faced fuck-damned SERIOUSLY

thinks that he can fool us.
 
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Old 02-27-2009, 09:47 AM
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but why?


why use a literary device as arrogant, exhausted, and absurdly ridiculous as third person speech?



do you realize you sound like a nut?
As opposed to an abusive asshole?
 
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:12 AM
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i'm fully aware of how i am coming across, my dude.
 
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Yeah seriously. Why are you guys being such irritable dicks? Doc just posted some stuff he thought would be useful, just trying to help. Fuckin spark a bowl or something if it'll help you not get so upset about it.
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

thats cool, i'll have to give it a try sometime
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

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Well don't you just know everything. Bet that feels good. No need to be rude. I said, "throw out your stems if you don't believe me." your loss. But I am sitting here smoking it now and I am well and baked. This isn't "cold water hash" this is blender hash.

So here's another example and further proof. My exact same recipe:

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/fo...te_id/1#import

seriously you'd think "arrogant stoner" would be an oxymoron right?

Really though and that guy's using LEAF TRIMMINGS... there's more THC in STEMS than leaves. But don't listen to me McGiver727, no throw out your stems. Stoners aren't rude.

you claim to be a doctor (md if anything im sayin), but so are these guys, only they're PhD....

from the chemical ecology of cannabis, by david pate (his phd dissertation) ::

"The cannabinoid content of each plant part varies, paralleling observable gland distribution (Fetterman et al. 1971, Honma et al. 1971a & 1971b, Kimura and Okamoto 1970, Ohlsson et al. 1971, Ono et al. 1972), although Turner et al. (1978) have disagreed. Roots contain only trace amounts. Stalks, branches and twigs have greater quantities, although not as much as leaf material. Vegetative leaf contains varying quantities depending on its position on the plant: lower leaves possessing less and upper ones more. Leaf glands are most dense on the abaxial (underside) surface. The greatest amount of cannabinoids is found in the new growth near each apical tip (Kimura and Okamoto 1970, Steinberg et al. 1975)"

he continues

"The small cuplike bracteole (perigonal bract) enclosing the pistil has the highest cannabinoid content of any single plant part (Kimura and Okamoto 1970, Honma et al. 1971a & 1971b). Second only to this is the flower itself (Fetterman et al. 1971b). Since it has no reported epidermal gland structures, the cannabinoids present must be due to either undiscovered production sites or simple adherence of resin from the inner surface of its intimately associated bracteole. This conjecture is supported by the finding that the achenes do not contain substantial amounts of the cannabinoids (Fetterman et al. 1971b, Ono et al. 1972)"

this second part is cool because it provides 2 published scientific studies showing achenes (seeds) dont contain much in the way of cannabinoids.

or, if youd rather take a cannabis expert's advice, instead of scientific articles, how about Ed Rosenthal and Mel Frank from the book "Marijuana Grower's Guide" chapter 3

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Here are the potencies, in descending order, of the various plant parts:
1. Female flowering clusters. In practice you don't separate hundreds of tiny bracts to make a joint. The whole flowering mass (seeds removed), along with small accompanying leaves, forms the material.
2. Male flower clusters. These vary more in relative potency depending on the strain
3. Growing shoots. Before the plants flower, the vegetative shoots (tips) of the main stem and branches are the most potent plant parts.
4. Leaves (a) that accompany flowers (small);
(b) along branches (medium);
(c) along main stem (large).
Generally, the smaller the leaf is, the more potent it can be.
5. Petioles (leaf stalks). Same order as leaves.
6. Stems. Same order as leaves. The smaller the stem (twig), the higher the possible concentration of cannabinoids. Stems over 1/16" in diameter contain only traces of cannabinoids and are not worth smoking. The small stems that bear the flowers can be quite potent.
7. Seeds and Roots. Contain only traces (less then .01 percent) and are not worth smoking or extracting.

This order is fairly consistent. The exceptions can be the small leaves that accompany male flowers, which are sometimes more potent than the flowers themselves. The growing shoots are sometimes more potent than the mature female flowers."

youd think if it was like 30-40% of the total cannabinoid content of the plant, it'd be higher than #6...

6 x 40% = 240% aint gonna fly, and that assumes that stems and bud have equivalent cannabinoid content, which no one is claiming.

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amoril lights a bowl, then amoril goes to bed; amoril is satisfied with his research for now, but could possibly be interested to further research the topic if the doctor has a more convincing argument than "im a doctor"

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Old 02-27-2009, 12:12 PM
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

I hope you realize that marijuana is not hash - especially stems and seeds. Marijuana and hash contain the same chemical (THC) but they are completely different. If anyone here has ever smoked real hash they'd tell you just as I will, this is a joke. In fact, smoking dirt brown schwagg would have you just as high as extract from stems and seeds.

Bottom line, there is no way to create hash. No criticism from my end. I simply just don't want you smoking trash and wasting hours of you life over stems and seeds.
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

I'm still LOLin at 'Stems have more THC than leaves'. Very funny stuff.

This method will make a smokeable low grade hash, but using frosted trim or better yet buds will give you a far better product. It's also a LOT easier to silkscreen kief off of trim/stems/whatever than to use this method.

Whatever floats your boat though. I do wish the good 'Doctor' would not spread misinformation such as the stems > leaves myth.
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Re: Kief hash made simple!

THIS is how hash is made, at least traditionally.

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Re: Kief hash made simple!

Doctor where do u get ur facts? Just stop talking out ur ass...ur messing with uneducated ppls heads giving them fake knowledge lol.

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Re: Kief hash made simple!

hey guys, you know you can make HASH out of PUBIC HAIR? ITS TRUE! since hair has been proven by some guys at a random link to contain large ammounts of thc[even in light smokers!], you can now use a complex method of extraction using a blender, filter, water and of course !PUBES! and create your very own hash!
want to spice it up? THROW IN A COUPLE SEEDS, or MIX UP THE PUBES! get pubes from all the local smokers and smoke DANK ASS SUPER PUBER MYSTERY HASH!

alls you do is, cut some pubes, right, then you throw those shits in a blender, powder them bad boys up, soak em in a 20/80 iso/water mix for 1 hour, freeze it, let it melt, spit in it[scientific spit], filter it, spit in it again, shake it up, boil it, spit in it AGAIN, shake it, let it sit for 2 hours then collect the dust like greenish/brownish[KIF IS BROWNISH!] shit at the bottom, let that sit out for 2 days, then take the .2 you just spent all that time collecting and smoke it in one hit.

im really bored.
i don't care about the UK either.. i need scripts here. i dont even think thats true..
yeah dude, prometh/codeine is script only in the US[obviously] and the UK, and mexico for that matter.. l2internet.
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I'm still LOLin at 'Stems have more THC than leaves'. Very funny stuff.

This method will make a smokeable low grade hash, but using frosted trim or better yet buds will give you a far better product. It's also a LOT easier to silkscreen kief off of trim/stems/whatever than to use this method.

Whatever floats your boat though. I do wish the good 'Doctor' would not spread misinformation such as the stems > leaves myth.
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hey guys, you know you can make HASH out of PUBIC HAIR? ITS TRUE! since hair has been proven by some guys at a random link to contain large ammounts of thc[even in light smokers!], you can now use a complex method of extraction using a blender, filter, water and of course !PUBES! and create your very own hash!
want to spice it up? THROW IN A COUPLE SEEDS, or MIX UP THE PUBES! get pubes from all the local smokers and smoke DANK ASS SUPER PUBER MYSTERY HASH!

alls you do is, cut some pubes, right, then you throw those shits in a blender, powder them bad boys up, soak em in a 20/80 iso/water mix for 1 hour, freeze it, let it melt, spit in it[scientific spit], filter it, spit in it again, shake it up, boil it, spit in it AGAIN, shake it, let it sit for 2 hours then collect the dust like greenish/brownish[KIF IS BROWNISH!] shit at the bottom, let that sit out for 2 days, then take the .2 you just spent all that time collecting and smoke it in one hit.

im really bored.
i don't care about the UK either.. i need scripts here. i dont even think thats true..
yeah dude, prometh/codeine is script only in the US[obviously] and the UK, and mexico for that matter.. l2internet.
WoW! Really?! Majik90 is going to try this recipe right away! Just like DrGREENThumb!

really green cut the 3rd person shit, makes u seem like a psycho
 
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Ok new thread rule Listen up yall!!!

IF YOU HAVEN'T EVER A) MADE THIS METHOD or B) HAD THIS KIND OF HASH BEFORE sit down and be quiet.
I've done both A and B. I did it with leafs. I got a whole lot of green pulp. I tried smoking it. I got the same headache as I got from smoking the leafs like they were. The only difference was that I didn't feel the least bit stoned when I smoked the hash. When you blend your stuff there's gonna be alot plant material bits the same size as trichomes, making it impossible to filter. I think the best ways would be either qwiso or hash oil...
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