The Paper Review Thread

[Appocolyptik]

Well I've rolled with many papers and consider myself to be a good roller, capable of constructing fine doobs of all shapes and sizes. I've rolled with a large number of papers and in this thread am going to write reviews on several papers. I'll update this from time to time with new reviews and post a reply when I do, so people are aware of it. If anyone wants to add any reviews on various rolling papers then feel free. I will be rating papers on the following categories:

Ease of Rolling: Are these papers easier or harder to roll with than usual? 10 being the easiest and 1 being the lowest
Sturdyness: How flimsy or sturdy is the paper during the rolling process? How sturdy is the finished joint? 10 being the strongest and 1 the flimsiest
Appearance of joints produced: Are the joints produced consistently better looking than usual? 10 being the sexiest and 1 the ugliest
Tokage How nice are these joints to toke? Are the hits filling etc?
Duration of Joints produced: How fast or slow do the papers burn? 10 being slowest and 1 being the quickest
Likelyness to sidey: How likely are these papers to sidey? A sidey is when one side of the joint burns quicker than the other, tragically wasting weed
Likelyness to be scorched: A scorching occurs when the lighter sets the paper ablaze so one side of the joint is scorched and wont burn properly. Without skillfull repairs scorches can easily wreck a joint.
Overall Score: Self Explanatory



An example of one of my rolls to prove I know what I'm talking about.

[Appocolyptik]

OCB Blacks


So I was going into a market ganja parrafenalia store to get my usual choice of zig zag silver, the original stoner rolling papers, when the attendant reccommended me some OCB Blacks. This guy was real honest and up front, so much in fact that he gave me a packet for free, much to my pleasure. So I hurried to a nearby chong spot and proceeded to roll. My immediate impression was that they felt a little... artificial with more of a plastic laminated feel than most papers. The paper is slightly thicker than a lot of 'blacks' and 'ultra slims' but it makes the joint feel more sturdy when you roll it. It's also very smooth so naturally are easier to roll with the 'nip and tuck' technique than the standard 'fold and roll.' They produce slightly less coned (depending of course on the size of the roach) than usual but are a joy to smoke. They smoke fairly slowly, but not so much that it detracts from the toking, which produces the joyous combination of the joint lasting longer and bigger hits. They're fairly similar in nature to Zig Zag Blacks and if you like one of these brands, chances are you'll like the other.

Ease of Rolling: 8
Sturdyness: 9
Appearance of joints produced: 8.8
Tokage: 9
Duration of Joints produced: 9
Likelyness to sidey: Low
Likelyness to be scorched: Extremely low
Overall: 9.4

These are some of the finest rolling papers a stoner can roll with and I highly recommend them, though admittedly I haven't used them in a fairly long time, they were some of my original papers of choice.

[Appocolyptik]

High Rollers



Well, what can I say about these papers? They're fucking heinous. I mean seriously, you would be HARD pressed to find worse rolling papers than these. They are absolutely fucking abysmal. My most distinct memory of using these papers was when my friend bought a pack and I'd forgotten mine so we had to use them all day long. I had this one spliff that got scorched so badly I literally couldn't smoke it. I mean, it was a windy day and all but the lighter had never before done that to one of my reefs, ever. It just completely leapt up halfway down the joint and completely ruined it, it was horrible to smoke and I got about 3 clean tokes out of the whole thing. My friend had even worse luck, one of his joints got so badly roasted by a small flame that he lost 3 quaters of his joint before he'd even sparked it. Then on his second attempt at lighting the whole reef got burned down the one side and he threw it away without getting a single hit. Every single spliff we rolled from these papers sideyed horribly or even worse, scorched. Do NOT be fooled by the professional looking packaging, these look like they'd be great rizzas but mark my words, they're absolutely terrible. Even on the unlikely occasion that the reef doesnt sidey or get scorched it burns extremely fast and the tokage is unfullfilling. They're extremely smooth papers and fairly sturdy, so the joints don't look that bad, but smoke horribly. I can safely say High Rollers are hands down the worst papers I have ever used. Worse than 2 top 5s stuck together, I'm not even joking. If I had to roll with either 2 small rizzlas (which I HATE doing) or High Rollers, it would be an all too easy choice, and it wouldn't be the latter.


Ease of Rolling: 7
Sturdyness: 8.5
Appearance of joints produced: 8
Tokage: 3
Duration of Joints produced: 4
Likelyness to sidey: Extremely High
Likelyness to be scorched: Extremely High
Overall: 3

[Oblivion2123]

great idea bro I'll add to it later

[Appocolyptik]

Swan Kingsize Blue



I stumbled across these papers by accident while intending to purchase my normally favoured Zig Zag blues. I happened to accidently buy these as I was blazed and they look really similar (they're also both 4 packs for £1 at my local market). I was very skeptical when I took them out the packet, they looked a bit cheap and artificial but boy was I mistaken. Literally as soon as I skinend my first reef with them I knew these were stellar papers. They simply flowed from my fingers with superflous ease, easily crafting a perfect J. One of the many cool things about these papers is the way the lines flow down the spliff, making any reef you roll look better than it actually is. It's hard to explain but you'll know what I mean when you roll with them. They're very easy to roll with and I've never personally had any problems crafting bifters with them. They also burn very slowly, despite looking like they'd go up in flames instantly. The packaging is a bit crappy looking but oh boy how it conceals a rollers dream. These papers are fucking amazing, I'm shocked at how cheap and widely produced they are. They're completely overlooked by people looking for exotic, strikingly packaged papers and really are a diamond in the rough. You can literally roll a really perm joint every single time with ease. It's incredibly hard to fuck up a roll with these papers and the finished product is sublime. I initially overlooked a few problems with these papers that stopped them getting top marks, but using them soley to roll a half ounce worth of widow joints, I found a few. The tar seems to build up quite badly at the bottom and they're extremely nasty to smoke towards the end, so I end up tossing the roach whereas I'd usually take a couple more tokes on other papers. It's no biggy, but annoying when the joint gets nasty because of the tar build up. Also the sticky curls, which I havent found a problem but it's ruined a friends joint entirely, discarding its' contents to the wet concrete below. And the end of the joint curls around the roach, meaning you have to keep singing it off to avoid 'bum sucking' the spliff. Overall, these papers are excellent, but perhaps they should release a blacks edition specifically for joints to rectify some of the problems involved.



^ Prepared with Swan Kings for my visit to the John Moore University in Liverpool.

Ease of Rolling: 9.4
Sturdyness: 9
Appearance of joints produced: 10
Tokage: 9.3
Duration of Joints produced: 9.5
Likelyness to sidey: Extremely Low
Likelyness to be scorched: Extremely Low
Overall: 9.4

[B|unted]

wheres the big bambu's at

[SourDieselChick]

i like your reviews keep em comin

[silkyjohnson]

great thread

keep adding to it, this kind of info is real useful to me

[Highbinder]

Originally Posted by Appocolyptik

Ease of Rolling: Are these papers easier or harder to roll with than usual? 10 being the easiest and 1 being the lowest
Sturdyness: How flimsy or sturdy is the paper during the rolling process? How sturdy is the finished joint? 10 being the strongest and 1 the flimsiest
Appearance of joints produced: Are the joints produced consistently better looking than usual? 10 being the sexiest and 1 the ugliest
Tokage How nice are these joints to toke? Are the hits filling etc?
Duration of Joints produced: How fast or slow do the papers burn? 10 being slowest and 1 being the quickest
Likelyness to sidey: How likely are these papers to sidey? A sidey is when one side of the joint burns quicker than the other, tragically wasting weed
Likelyness to be scorched: A scorching occurs when the lighter sets the paper ablaze so one side of the joint is scorched and wont burn properly. Without skillfull repairs scorches can easily wreck a joint.
Overall Score: Self Explanatory

No offence, its a nice idea, but its hugely subjective and has more to do with personal preferences and individual rolling skill than the papers themselves. Applying an arbritary scoring system is meaningless.

[jfeezy]

Zig Zag oranges are my faves, as they're easy to roll with and burn nice and slow. I also like original Zig Zags, King Size Clear Wraps, JOB oranges are pretty decent, Juicy Jays are acceptable but a little thick for my liking and sometimes they run.

Shitty papers include Brown Sugar brand, TOP's (obviously, but sometimes it's all we've had), Smoking papers (my buddy gets em downstate, 3 packs for a buck) umm... shit its been so long since I've twisted one up (fucking felony probation) I don't even remember any more, but I know most papers not listed in the first paragraph that I've used aren't worth mentioning.

[suburbantoker]

Job 1.5

I asked a friend to pick me up some Job lights (best they have at the nearest gas station), since I was too lazy/cheap to drive and get some and this is what he comes back with... I was kinda mad but I figured what the hell. This paper is thick, difficult to roll(and i'm damn good at rolling j's), and 1.5s are just useless for weed, waaay too much paper unless you're trying to roll a 3g monster fatty J. these are definately CIG ONLY papers, use them to roll your fags, they'll work well for that. i usually cut off the extra .5 so that they're regular size, but they still flat out suck.


Ease of Rolling: 6.5 (hard to tuck, glue SUCKS)
Sturdyness: 8 (lots of paper, again)
Appearance of joints produced: 8 (look like cigs because there is so much paper to roll around)
Tokage: 6 (too much paper unless cut to size, taste like shit)
Duration of Joints produced: 8
Likelyness to sidey: Low
Likelyness to be scorched: low
Overall: 6.5-7


good thread, i'll be updating frequently with new papers

[Appocolyptik]

I'm going away camping with my friends until Friday this week, but I'll be updating the thread when I get back. I'm taking a half oz of white widow and will post the pictures when I return.

[rumandromanism]

Originally Posted by Highbinder

No offence, its a nice idea, but its hugely subjective and has more to do with personal preferences and individual rolling skill than the papers themselves. Applying an arbritary scoring system is meaningless.

Well, of course it's subjective. That's in the nature of reviews.


Keep 'em coming, it is interesting to hear about other people's subjective personal preferences and individiual rolling skills!

[Oblivion2123]

Juicy Jays are terrible

Everything zero

Plus they taste like pure toxic chemicals it makes me gag everyone get RAW unbleached papers there the best and they have absolutley no taste

[ston3rf4g]

+rep for this thread. very nicely put together and informative