Mind control in the classroom.

[MNSmoker]

Wow

[quickdryink]

Originally Posted by stoned_soldier

that was a great read but i don't understand how it's a prison.. i'm not from the US so maybe explain to me how it was mind-control?

i agree 1984 is an eye and mind-opener..

heh, that's messed how there's barbed wire (WTF IN THE FIRST PLACE hahahah.. true..) and going inward.. that's fucked.. if you're still at the city, please respond, i'd love to hear more on this..

It's not prison. Public schools just have standards of behavior to keep liability low. Apparently, the poster didn't comply with those, and he blames "the system" for fucking him over, when, really, he probably did something to cause the "persecution".

Maybe it's just because both of my parents are involved in Public schools, but I'm inclined to say that toosicks is exagerating.

But then again, i'm sure my opinion will be discounted as one of those who was "brainwashed" by "the system" and is now a slave of "the man".

[sirsm0kesal0t]

thats why i pretty much quit going to school i just dropped out plus i have read up alot on the 9/11 conspiracy theories and it shows that it was done by our own government. So don't trust a government that is willing to kill its own ppl to make a point. You made an interesting post and its good some people can read it.

[pmmmmn]

i didn't like high school but i wasn't a big baby about it either

[pemberton]

I guess I'm just a mindless brainwashed drone, but I did well in high school and almost never got in trouble. Highschool isnt there as a means to preserve the status quo, its there to give you a set of tools that will help you succede in life. What you get out of high school is proportional to what you put in.

I'm not saying I liked high school. I hated it and I havent been back since I graduated, but I never let that stand in the way of getting an education. I always thought it was funny that people would try to give me shit for caring about my education. They sure shut up quick when it was time to start applying for college and they realized that they hadn't done jack shit for the past 4 years, and that their various sports achievments were worth absolutely nothing in the real world. The people I know that dicked around in high school or dropped out are the ones bagging my groceries, delivering my newspaper, and soaking up my tax money through the state prison system.

I just cant understand why anyone would be dumb enough to drop out of high school. Its only 4 years, probably some of the easiest 4 years you will have to deal with.

[hey bore hey]

im all for fighting the man, the system, the agents, whatever, but there is a line between subversive and paranoid that needs to be understood.

whether you like public school or not, by being there you are agreeing to a kind of social contract. you behave in a manner that is in line with what they expect, and you walk out in four years with a diploma.

if you dont want the diploma, or you truly disagree with the policies/teachers, you can walk the fuck out. pretending to injure yourself to get out of a class and cursing off the administrators is not a way to subvert said system, it is a way of making yourself more visible as a threat to the establishment.

there's no room for heroes in public school, there are no "red pills" as you say. you either play their game or you dont. you cant beat them at their own game, and maybe if you stopped watching the matrix and smoking bowls for a week or two you might start to see things differently.

i too had some entanglements with the school psychologists- my 11th grade chem teacher thought i was plotting to kill her, for example. but i wasnt so immature that i walked away believing i was some kind of hero fighting against the evil thought police. if you get to the end of 1984, you see what happens to winston- he plays the game against the state and he loses.

if you hate it so much, the answer isnt to punch cops. the answer is to live your life in a way that will not attract their attention. just my two cents, naturally. best of luck in the future, whatever battles you find yourself in.

[MNSmoker]

Replying to the above..

A - Fuckin- men

[unoit]

HIGH All, ahhh man you guys!!!!!!!! Been shifhting thought the pages and see TooSicKs....fuck me you guys sure like to bring up good memories eh!!! +rep to who did...and I'll see who did it late......................

[Rageon]

I have a friend kinda like you, Smart as fuck just ppl hated him because of his history.


Shame Humans hating Humans

[DarkCreed]

School is small fry, it is not big brother, it is little nephew maybe.....but what Orwell described, the social commentary that he made there-in fits far more apropriately with Current Govt. standards. You will find that the slightly over exaggerated "New World Order" is actually comming to pass, but not in my opinion how we first imagined during the Paranoid laden 90's.....Example : The USA, Canada, and Mexico have been suggested to join a North American Regional Governing body. We would have open borders and a single currency. Concurrently, Eastern Asia, Eurasia, Africa, and South America wouls all join regional bodys and use a single currency like the euro. No mind you the illuminati or whaever popular conspiracy you hold dear, are likely not real or involved in any way, on the contrary, the strings are being pulled by a select elite few, not sworn in by secret scocieties, but sworn in by the money they can offer thier constituants.....cash is Big Brother and he IS watching......

[DEFSTONES]

Lol, why is everyone praising this guy for being extremely paranoid and dillusional? Maybe you should relax and not make the world out to be so bad and just enjoy yourself, I think you might find life to be a bit more enjoyable.

[Phish_Head]

heres a "learning outcome" from my hs:
Learner outcome 9.01:The student is alwaysprepared, on time, and has the proper materials required for class. Through his/her encouragement and example, the entire class is ready to work.

you got a separate grade each quarter for 9.01 on a 4 point scale, if you dont get above a 2 in every class you cant graduate. The teachers used it as a catchall threat. If we didnt participate during class or "set a good example" we could fail, even if we did all our work and got good grades. It was grading based on our personality.

[4Frnt]

Originally Posted by hey bore hey

im all for fighting the man, the system, the agents, whatever, but there is a line between subversive and paranoid that needs to be understood.

whether you like public school or not, by being there you are agreeing to a kind of social contract. you behave in a manner that is in line with what they expect, and you walk out in four years with a diploma.

if you dont want the diploma, or you truly disagree with the policies/teachers, you can walk the fuck out. pretending to injure yourself to get out of a class and cursing off the administrators is not a way to subvert said system, it is a way of making yourself more visible as a threat to the establishment.

there's no room for heroes in public school, there are no "red pills" as you say. you either play their game or you dont. you cant beat them at their own game, and maybe if you stopped watching the matrix and smoking bowls for a week or two you might start to see things differently.

i too had some entanglements with the school psychologists- my 11th grade chem teacher thought i was plotting to kill her, for example. but i wasnt so immature that i walked away believing i was some kind of hero fighting against the evil thought police. if you get to the end of 1984, you see what happens to winston- he plays the game against the state and he loses.

if you hate it so much, the answer isnt to punch cops. the answer is to live your life in a way that will not attract their attention. just my two cents, naturally. best of luck in the future, whatever battles you find yourself in.

word best post ive read in a long time



i really hate school too but i guess i just cant relate cause my sistuation is so differnt. My elemetry and middle school were good times and i enjoyed living as a 'normal' kid, going to school dances, playing on sports teams, and being myself at the same time. I think a lot of the time things are just worse if you try to fight them like that. Highschool sucks but then again its only 4 years and you get to go to college which is gona be sick. I go to a private boarding school now and ive had a lot problems accepting following their bullshit rules and drug testing based on suspecion and shit like that... but then i realize my parents are paying 40000 a year of their hard earned money for this so i just suck ti up and try to finish well.



still i enjoyed your perspective, like someone said i can see that being made into a movie.

[Hardsmoker]

I`m way too stoned to read this, so I am just gonna come back later

[ColoradoWolf]

Very interesting thread. While I do think toosicks dealt with his high school "education" experience in a manner that leaves a bit to be desired, he does hit upon the fact that public schools are more and more nothing but indoctrination centers to produce compliant workers that know not to put a round peg in a square hole. There is not even the pretense of teaching students critical thinking. That's why I've always believed that the U.S. Department of Education should be abolished, because education can only be effectively handled at the local level. That's beside the point, though.

Personally, I was lucky enough to be able to attend a private high school, and had teachers of college caliber. They did teach us how to think critically, and form our own opinions based upon investigation of the available facts. Sadly, my experience turns out to be the exception rather than the rule, and it angers me that all kids attending indoctrination centers ... err ... public schools are not being taught how to use all of their resources causing many to lash out as toosicks did. I know I would've, more likely than not, if I had attended public high school.

The U.S. population has been systematically dumbed down. Just look at the history and statistics related to education since the founding of the Department of Education. It's not a pretty sight. The federal government was never the answer to education for this country, nor did the Constitution give the federal government the right to stick its nose into the area of national education. That right was always meant to be handled at the state and local level, as stated in the 10th Amendment. Not that the Constitution has ever stood in the way of federal usurpation of states' rights. Remember, President Bush thinks that the Constitution is "only a goddamned piece of paper." So much for his oath to uphold, defend, and support that goddamned piece of paper, which, it appears, is superceded by his oath to Skull & Bones, as well as his being beholden to Corporatocracy and neo-con dogma.

All I would ask of my fellow blades is that you all educate yourselves, while you still can (the Internet is slated to be censored soon). Knowledge and information are power, truthfully. We need to realize that lashing out only puts a bullseye on our foreheads. Think for yourself, and question authority. Arm yourself with knowledge, arm others with knowledge, and be not afraid to speak truth to perceived power. The system will survive the lashing out of a few, but can be reshaped through the dedicated, thoughtful, and unified efforts of the many.

Peace.