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Old 10-12-2007, 08:27 AM
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So many salvia question

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Have a Sitter An individual planning to take Salvia divinorum should have a non-inebriated "sitter" present at all times. Under the effects of S. divinorum, people have been known to get up and walk around, completely unaware of their surroundings with a 'blank' look in their eyes. It is possible that someone in such a mental state might walk into traffic, off a ledge, etc. People have been known to stumble about, knocking over and subsequently breaking glass objects. A non-inebriated friend (preferably one who is familiar with the effects of S. divinorum and/or other psychoactive drugs) should act as a 'sitter', to protect one's physical body while one is in the S. divinorum 'trance'. In some cases the trance is considered a light one, and it can be broken by noise or by turning on the lights and opening one's eyes. Frequently the trance will come back, if one returns to quiet and darkness. In extreme cases, someone under the influence of S. divinorum may become agitated and need to be calmed down or restrained. It is very important to have a trusted, non-inebriated sitter present during all S. divinorum voyages, and particularly so during the early voyages when one is getting used to the effects of the plant. The sitter should know that in the majority of cases, even if the person who has taken S. divinorum is 'freaking out', such a condition does not last long and it is best to remain as calm as possible, try to non-verbally reassure the tripper at first, and keep them from leaving the pre-defined area, and verbally reassure the person if necessary. Within 10 to 60 minutes, the situation should improve. Inexperienced sitters should be encouraged to read for themselves about the effects and the basics of 'guiding'. There is some information at www.erowid.org/psychoactives/guides/guides.shtml, which can help the sitter have a better idea of what their role may entail. A search in the Erowid Experience Vaults on the term 'sitter' will turn up a number of accounts of S. divinorum use that might also be helpful to read.

Create a Safe Space The space where the experience will take place should have dangerous objects put away and should be surveyed for potential accidents. If there are any candles burning, a person moving around deep in a trance might accidentally start a fire. Experienced S. divinorum users strongly suggest that the best way to take S. divinorum is lying comfortably in bed in a dimly lit room. Do not smoke Salvia divinorum while standing. There should be nothing potentially dangerous around (fire, knives, guns, glass), and the phone should be taken off the hook so that one won't be disturbed.

Plan your Time Think carefully about when your next obligation to the outside world will occur and choose carefully a time that will not require driving or other activity for a period appropriate to the route of ingestion. Experienced users often choose to plan entire days for their work with powerful entheogens so that there is no obligation between the time they wake up and when they go to sleep. An individual using S. divinorum should not operate a car or heavy machinery until the effects have fully receded. One should wait until one is completely 'down' and no longer experiencing any effects, and then wait another hour to be safe before driving or operating machinery.

Prepare your Aesthetic Environment Along with creating a safe space to be in, it is also important to pay attention to the visual and audio aspects of the environment. Some people prefer silence, and others like various sorts of 'mood' music (generally without vocals). Many experienced users prefer to be in softly lit rooms.

Think about Medications As with all other strong psychoactives, its important that the user consider carefully the herbs, supplements, and medications that they have ingested within the last few days. While there is little known about cross-reactions between Salvia divinorum and other herbs and medications at this point, mixing medications can lead to unexpected results.

Know the Effects New users should acquaint themselves with the general effects of Salvia divinorum so that they are not expecting cannabis-like effects. The plant they are working with has the potential to be extremely powerful.
- Erowid


Smoking A shorter duration of effects can be obtained by smoking the dried leaves of Salvia divinorum. Repeated experimentation has resulted in a general consensus that using a bong is one of the most effective ways to smoke Salvia divinorum leaf because one can get large breaths full of the smoke quickly. There have been some reports of people smoking S. divinorum leaves rolled into 'joints', occasionally with effective results (and in a few cases people prefer this method). However, in the majority number of cases, people have reported little or no effects from smoking joints of leaves. Terence McKenna used to recommend a "gravity bong" as an even better way to smoke the dried leaves, saying "This does not fail."

A regular pipe lies somewhere between a bong and a joint, in effectiveness. People have suggested that using a pipe with a large bowl and a short stem is the best choice, as there is room for burning a lot of dried leaf this way, and the salvinorin A has less chance to condense out into the pipe when traveling though a short stem. With smoking, the effects come on much more rapidly, within a couple of minutes, and they are gone in about 20 minutes. Several "bong hits" in rapid succession—each held in for about 20 to 30 seconds—generally is enough for effects; effects produced depend on the amount smoked, the potency of the leaf, and the sensitivity of the individual smoking. A dose range of 250 mg to 500 mg of dried leaf, when smoked via a bong, should be sufficient for most people using leaf of average potency (that is, leaf which contains 2 to 3 mg or salvinorin A per gram of dried leaf). It has been noted that the primary active compound, salvinorin A, needs a lot of heat to vaporize, and it is suggested that one hold the flame over the dried herb for the whole time that one is inhaling. Some people report better results when smoking by using a mini-torch style lighter.







So be safe,sit Down

Smoke With a water Pipe or a bong. Light the whole time and hold for 30 seconds./ pass the pipe to sitter right away.

Have a sitter


also weigh out your hits when it comes to high extract
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:29 AM
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Wow. . .

good job, man. I was just about to take some salvia. . .
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:32 AM
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really dont trip just blaze that shit by yourself that is wack


btw good job copy and pasting erowid on the site ....
 
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I don't care how much salvia makes you hallucinate, it feels absolutely nasty.
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really dont trip just blaze that shit by yourself that is wack


btw good job copy and pasting erowid on the site ....
yeah it was copy and paste but there so many damn questions......and some day some one is going to be ignorant and get them selfs hurt boom salvia is illegal.



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