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Old 09-20-2007, 06:37 AM
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Exclamation Frightening Reality of Drug Tests

In my case, this has been the worst period of my life. I have yet to even share any of it here because the last thing on my mind has been the internet.

I got caught in Mississippi at a road block with half a blunt. (I did not anticipate drug dogs and don't wear glasses so did not notice them either.) I was taken to jail and charged with possession of marijuana. I quit smoking the night I got arrested, after smoking every day (an average of six to ten times per day, depending on whether it was the week or weekend) for two and a half years. It has been three months and three weeks since I've inhaled or been around marijuana, and I'm still failing home drug tests with a 50ng/mL cut-off concentration. Granted I'm overweight, but I still know other people as big as me who didn't take longer than two months to get clean.

The problem is--and I suppose I'm naive to think they wouldn't be so callous--that the people at the Justice Network (justice my arse) refuse to believe it's even possible for someone to fail after 45 days of abstinence. (My mother knows a woman who it took four months to pass a test.) It's obvious to me that this is not true because I have no reason to lie to myself, and my friends know I won't even allow it around me--despite the evidence that second-hand smoke does not pose a significant threat to passing a test (at least when smoking in open areas).

I'm as scared as I've ever been. The conditions of my case are as follows: complete a drug and alcohol class (check), a negative drug screen, and $100 for court fees; if all of the aforementioned criteria are met, the charge will be dropped from my record, no probation, and I'll never have to take a drug test again. If I fail this test (which is tomorrow, by the way) I will go to jail for four months, no questions asked; and there's no telling what stipulations there will be once I get out (Drug Court, probation, etc.).

The reason I'm so afraid to go back to jail is not only because it's a terrible place, which is a given. It's also because I just got out two weeks ago for another charge (shoplifting), which was remanded after I served seventeen days in the local jail. It was the worst experience of my life, mainly because I'm gay and happened to be wearing make-up and a purse when I got arrested. The booking officers told some of the trustees and of course they told the inmates. Needless to say, it was the most terrifying time of my life. Including physical threats from Aryan Brotherhood members who had shanks to almost being raped. I thought those sorts of things only happened in prison, not county jails.

I hope I wasn't being too graphic, but I'm scared shitless.

I have a bottle of Xxtra Clean, which has worked for some people I know. They say to quit smoking at least two or three days before taking the test, but I haven't smoked since I got arrested (almost four months). I think I should be okay, but there is still that lingering anxiety. I'm just praying everything will be okay, to whatever guiding force there may be in this universe. (I don't personally believe in one, but praying in general can't hurt. I'll just consider it a mantra and dedicate it to Shiva.)

Anyone have any words of wisdom? I always come to the seasoned tokers section for good advice. Just don't tell me Xxtra Clean is worthless, because I've heard it before.. and at this point I have no other option (no $), so it's useless to hear it now. Anything moderately uplifting will do, because I'm sick to my stomach with worry.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:46 AM
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The politics from our Prison systems have dripped down to our county jails now. I figured that shit out back in 1996. In California, if you are white, you cannot eat/drink/smoke after african americans at all or you will be beat down. That's just one rule over here in the jail/prison system.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:49 AM
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The sad part here is that the guards don't care. It's scary how ignorant people can be.
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yea dude first time i went to county jail, 3-4 big mexicans came up to me and asked what gang i was from. and if this was my first time in county pen... i told em i dont bang and was indeed here for the first time, and this dude just clocked me across the dome i just fell str8 forward, i got up like 5 seconds later n all i remember him saying is 'yeah boy', and its true, ive only spent 25 nights in jail total, but ive seen some ruthless fuckin animals in there, and i mean animals. its barbaric. anyways, the guy who hit me turned out to be my cellmate, and i guess thats some 'ritual' they do to the 'new guy' lol, i dont know, this was as he was explaining to me, i learned quite a bit that summer sitting in prison but in the end, all i did was scam, the same thing i do outside the pen lol
i'd collect kool aid and trade it to the negros for various opiates n benzos like oxy/hydros and xanax/valium....blacks must really like there Kool Aid alot to be dishing out the pharms, but yea, in the end, i just kept gettin happy on pills untill i was finished w/ my stint...
so, during my stay i seen about 10 or so fights between inmates, 1 assault on an officer/gaurd, 2 white teens getting buttfucked and publicly humiliated , and a decent amount of blood shed. And now, i am scarred for life.....and wont be visiting again.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:09 AM
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I'm glad someone else agrees it's not a fun place, I kinda just feel like it's because I'm weak or something. I've never lost a fight in my life, but in jail I know I would have lost a lot of them if I had started any, lmao. I felt too vulnerable.

It was full of the kind of people who never lose fights.

Anyways, I'm hoping I don't go back. There is that slim chance everything will work out.
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Damn, bro. Best of luck to you.

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Because the canabinoids are stuck on your fat, you have to wait for that layer of fat to be used as energy (fat is the way our bodies store unused energy). As you burn the fat, the canabinoids are again released in your bloodstream, and are turned into urine by your kidneys.

Why does this blow? Most people take a long time to metabolize all the fat that has canabinoids dissolved in it. The more you smoke, the longer it lingers. The slower your metabolism, the longer it lingers.

Heres an example... John is a lanky bastard with only 4% body fat. He is a pothead and smoked every day for a few years. His friend Jake is a lard ass with over 30% body fat. He smoked with John every day. John exercises and is completely canabinoid free after two weeks of non-smoking. Jake also exercises with John, but even after three weeks he is still testing positive for marijuana.

Not only is John a lucky bastard, but he has a high metabolism rate. I'm sure we've all seen skinny people who you never see without food in their hand. You wonder why they never gain weight! Its because they have a quick metabolism. Diet and exercise are the only way to increase metabolism.
Link: http://forum.grasscity.com/seasoned-...-cannabis.html

That topic WILL help you.

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my friend went through the same problem as you but hes short and a proper weight i suppose (5'4" and 120"). he failed a few tests (federal probation) and was sent to the halfway house where he took a drug test every day. basically he tested positive for cocaine and marijuana for a month. for marijuana it usually take 2 weeks - a month for it to be out of your system while cocaine is usually a week. maybe its because you just smoked alot for a long period of time. i'm pretty sure if you keep failing tests they will start testing for the levels of thc in your system wich will keep going down if you are staying clean. thats what they did to him.
 
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Good luck tomorrow man. I hope everything goes well and you test neg. You probably should have been working out and eating clean to hopefully clean out your system, but I guess it's too late for all of that. Only advice I can give now is don't carry a purse and don't wear any makeup if you go to jail. You are lucky to not have been destroyed in every way, verbally, physically, emotionally, from that short stint in jail. I would recommend to try and limit or remove any and all signs that you might be gay. If you are effeminate or have a lisp or carry yourself a certain way, dudes will know.

It's a sad fact, and I don't mean to tell you how to live or to change who you are, but if you want to avoid being shanked in the back or being forced to lick the asshole of a large black fellow named Tyrone, I'd say cut the gay.
 
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why not try some of the techniques that have come up in forums here lately, like drink alot of water and take a couple creatine and b12 pills. that should help you out even on a day's notice.
 
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Good luck tomorrow man. I hope everything goes well and you test neg. You probably should have been working out and eating clean to hopefully clean out your system, but I guess it's too late for all of that. Only advice I can give now is don't carry a purse and don't wear any makeup if you go to jail. You are lucky to not have been destroyed in every way, verbally, physically, emotionally, from that short stint in jail. I would recommend to try and limit or remove any and all signs that you might be gay. If you are effeminate or have a lisp or carry yourself a certain way, dudes will know.

It's a sad fact, and I don't mean to tell you how to live or to change who you are, but if you want to avoid being shanked in the back or being forced to lick the asshole of a large black fellow named Tyrone, I'd say cut the gay.
Oh yeah, I definitely try to act as manly as possible while I'm in there. The only downside is my eyebrows are arched and I have a female shape and long hair. When I first came in the tank some of them were already mad because they thought I was a girl, lmao.

I go to take my drug test in two hours. Wish me all the luck in the world, please.
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4 months of jail ain't bad i would shave my head if i had long hair before goin to jail
 
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cant you just ask to spend your time in "the shoe" or whatever their solitary unit is called?They usually separate gays,pedos,etc away from general population-well in prison anyway.
 
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any number of supplements can cause a false possitive

check out the DT section of erowid and keep some hemp seed oil/flax oil/ect on hand

if they wanna start shit you blast 'em with logical falses and claim the fuckers are out to get ya

bitch loud enough and they should get off your back since they really don't like media attention and a slightly 'over weight' guy busted with a piss ant half blunt getting fucked with for this long is obviously harrasment

fucking hell DUI pieces of scum sucking shit get off with warnings/shit probation w/o forced payment for probation/ect

if a drunk behind the wheel can swing that shit why the fuck is a toker getting reamed for half a blunt?
 
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fuck jail....jail sucks for the people who see their loved ones as well that go through alot of shit in there and cant do anything about it. =(

i hope everything works out alright for you. i wish you the best of luck.

Lets us know how it goes.
 
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