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Old 09-10-2007, 02:15 AM
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People sayin' Coke and Heroin is bad news, and herb is PRO? Da fuck, you tellin' me about how herb grows out of the ground and that's why its ok and yayo and the H is evil? Fuck that man, Coca plants and poppy fields are as natural as it gets. They're just plants too... ya'll need to revise your arguments.

I'm not sayin yayo and H are straight or anything, and herb IS PRO. But not with that argument. If you throw that factor out you're no different than a blind government trying to convince me of some shit that ain't true.

Just throwin it out there... think about what you say and how you try to argue your beliefs. Because if you use an argument for your purpose just because you think it works and not because it's true, than you're fucked from the beginning. Yeah, of course herb grows out of the god damn earth, but so does everything in some way.

Bush was birthed from human beings and ate food from the earth to grow into an adult... that doesn't make him "good" in anyway. Damn, what a shitty example, I'm really drunk so it's hard for me to come up with something better. Work with me here tho. You see what I'm talkin' about or did I drop my time unwisely?

naw what needs to be said is that there is a chemical derivitave process to get H and coke. with weed u pick a flower and light it on fire. one you chemically extract stuff.
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is the dea using Thermal vision to see through walls of peoples houses so they can see grows? like if i had one in my attic (hypothetically i honestly not tongue in cheek but honestly dont grow) but if i did could they see?
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is the dea using Thermal vision to see through walls of peoples houses so they can see grows? like if i had one in my attic (hypothetically i honestly not tongue in cheek but honestly dont grow) but if i did could they see?
Do you even know what thermal means?
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FUCK THE DEA!! they should put themselves to better causes by for example working on getting mass traffickers, not on a harmless potsmoker that grows a couple plants for personal use!!
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Do you even know what thermal means?
yeah i do. its heat. im talking about heat vision goggles/imaging and whatnot. are they using that at large/random scales on houses. or only on houses they believe have weed being grown there. because a. weed and pine trees are the only two plants that can show up in thermal imaging due to the fact that they retain heat. so your dumbass rebuttal fuckin sucked. and b. ever think about all the lights involved in growing a marijuana plant? its gonna show up glowing red. which is exactly how i figure they use this stuff. im wondering if without reason they would just go around aerially or on ground and just look through walls and houses see if anyones doing this?
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Having a light isn't illegal, and so many things are hotter in your house. A water heater, stove, normal lights..
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but if in ur attic would it show up as a plant? like a weed plant or just a room that has alot of heat signatures? cuz if i ever grow when im like 60 and old this is how i want to.
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I'm not sure, I've heard of them having some type of crazy camera thing on helicopters to spot plants but i'm not sure if it's thermal or what. I think that's usually for large scale grows though.
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and i dont think 5 plants at a time would register as anything. but when i build a growroom im going to own the house. and line the entire outside of it with one door into but the entire outside will be lined with styrofoam. they use that shiza on nasa ships. seems like it would block alot of heat signatures.
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yeah i do. its heat. im talking about heat vision goggles/imaging and whatnot. are they using that at large/random scales on houses. or only on houses they believe have weed being grown there. because a. weed and pine trees are the only two plants that can show up in thermal imaging due to the fact that they retain heat. so your dumbass rebuttal fuckin sucked. and b. ever think about all the lights involved in growing a marijuana plant? its gonna show up glowing red. which is exactly how i figure they use this stuff. im wondering if without reason they would just go around aerially or on ground and just look through walls and houses see if anyones doing this?
Did you just call me a dumbass? You're the one asking if DEA uses "thermal" imaging to "see through walls". You are a fucking MORON. Yes the plants retain a little bit of heat, but computers, tv's, toasters, dogs, cats and refrigerators generate heat also. They use thermal scanning via helicopter to search for large scale grows by looking for heat from multiple lamps with ballasts, and generators.
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What a fucking waste of money. Seriously, if this isn't another reason to cheat on your taxes, I don't know what is. "The war on Drugs" my ass. This is how power hungry politicians disperse money that can be used to educate the uneducated masses, provide healthcare for the sick, etc. This makes me want to steal.
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Yeah well chewing coca or brewing it in a tea will not kill you, and smoking opium is also pretty harmless.

Yes, obviously the problem is addiction and thats my point. The DEA thinks that if they try to cut off the supply of drugs coming into the country that less people will get addicted or use, while in reality all they're really doing is busting a few of the head traffickers, and exploding it into the media convincing us that they're doing their job.

But if they stopped using those billions of dollars and started a large rehabilitation campaign I'm sure the numbers would drop significantly. Of course, users are going to be users and if you're deep into a heroin addiction and your dealer gets arrested or you do, you're only going to resort to worse to get more. So, there's where you get your criminal drug users.
Smoking opium is pretty harmless?Where did you read this? Did someone tell you this? Hey,try growin some poppies (papaver somniferum) there real easy to grow then milk um,dont even purify it at all then smoke your opium for a while. When you wake up for work one morning without this harmless drug, pukeing,sweating,bones hurt,chills,headake,constapated without sleep let us know how harmless THAT one really is. This is a perfect example of why the DEA needs to be educated about what there real priorities are!
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Smoking opium is pretty harmless?Where did you read this? Did someone tell you this? Hey,try growin some poppies (papaver somniferum) there real easy to grow then milk um,dont even purify it at all then smoke your opium for a while. When you wake up for work one morning without this harmless drug, pukeing,sweating,bones hurt,chills,headake,constapated without sleep let us know how harmless THAT one really is. This is a perfect example of why the DEA needs to be educated about what there real priorities are!
Dude, you have some personal issues. I've smoked plenty of opium and never had any problems like that. From heroin, yeah, but not opium. If you use opium irresponsibly to that extent then that's your fault. Just because there's some idiots out there who don't have any self-control so they decide to blame their problems on the drug I have to have my life effected by the laws that are a result of such bull shit.
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Dude, opium basically paralyzed half of China during the 19th century...
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