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namron_420s · #1 (**permalink**) 03-28-2003, 03:22 PM

I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fighting for
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

hippie john · #2 (**permalink**) 03-28-2003, 03:42 PM

Thats beautiful man, beautiful

MSMJ · #3 (**permalink**) 03-28-2003, 08:09 PM

Thanks for that, Namron. We do need to remember!

Stylez1877 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-28-2003, 08:18 PM

beautiful, and oh so true.

did you write that?

followed · #5 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 01:36 AM

no comment.

ReformMaryJaneLaws · #6 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 01:38 AM

That was great, Norm!!! It really was! I know I haven't forgotten...about that or anything else that we've endured.

KraziHare · #7 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 01:52 AM

here we go again...

first off lemme say something I said in another thread this morning; 9/11 has nothing to do with Iraq or saddam hussein. Trying to tie the two together only dishonors the memories of those who lost their lives that day. This kind of self righteous deviciveness sickens me

Saddam may support terrorism with his words but that's simply a ploy to gain support from his own people and the countries around him.

Bin Laden is not from Iraq.
Iraq did not give him money, weapons, or any sort of support other than a thumbs up after Sept. 11th
The men who crashed those planes were not from Iraq.
Iraq hasn't done anything to any countries, not even it's neighbors, since the gulf war.
War means death, no matter what it's supposedly for it leads to death and destruction, because of this war more Iraqis will die than Americans did on that day.

I haven't forgotten Namron, I'm reminded of the despicable acts of terror that happened that day every time I turn on the news and see my country doing the same thing.

A Shock and Awe Attack:

ReformMaryJaneLaws · #8 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:00 AM

I don't see anywhere in any of the posts in this thread that Iraq was even mentioned...*yeah, we're fighting but nothing was said specifically about it.

Why does every thread have to lead to this?????

*** Addition: We all disagree on this but allow some of us to honor those fighting and those who we love who are over there in some way or another.

Also, unless you are Saddam...you don't really know if he funded the terrorism we experienced. None of us knows for sure either way.

KraziHare · #9 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by namron_420s
I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for

is that so RMJL?

followed · #10 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:10 AM

see, when i said no comment, what I really should have said is what Krazi hare just posted.

ReformMaryJaneLaws · #11 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:13 AM

KraziHare...it is apparent that you are against this and that fine but why argue in every thread?

Norm was just trying to do something good and I appreciate it as did some others. But some of us have friends and family who defend our rights...the same rights that you enjoy... and so many of the citizens of Iraq don't even get a glimpse of that because Saddam wants to keep them under his control. He takes away their rights as humans and not all of them are against this. Former Iraqis who live in this country are glad that this is happening. Disagree...that's your right...but why start something in every thread about it?

KraziHare · #12 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:16 AM

RMJL,

My best friend, a friend I've known since I was 3, is fighting right now. I'll honor and support him by sending him letters and hoping he comes home safely, what does any of what was posted have to do with supporting troops anyway?

You may think Namron was trying to do a good thing (in fact I do too, I just think he did it in the worst way possible), but I think I was trying to do a good thing, if he gets to speak his mind so do I.

And I'm arguing because I think what Namron posted is fundementally wrong, it's something I'd do whether or not it was about war. There's never a time when one shouldn't speak their mind and I believe we can all love and respect each other even if we don't agree.

We'll be rivals in theory and blades in spirit

edit: Besides, despite what you're saying you still argued some of my points, if you don't want to argue don't, I'm sure some of the other pro war people around here would take up the slack And if words are truly as powerful as it says in your signature then why would you want to stop arguing?

CREATOR63420 · #13 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by namron_420s
I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fighting for
Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

Thats a fucking country song. I heard that shit on the radio when i was working on my bronco at my stepdads friends house.

ReformMaryJaneLaws · #14 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:32 AM

I want to stop arguing because while I do believe in my quote...it doesn't always work. That's obvious. There's enough fighting going on in this world that I don't have to participate in it here. So, from now on...I'm staying out of these threads as I had done for so long before because this issue hits way too close to home for me.

The war is something that we can agree to disagree on and I feel no need to argue about it, anymore.

KraziHare · #15 (**permalink**) 03-29-2003, 02:38 AM

heard ya loud and clear RMJL, I just want to add one comment regarding your last post (not to contend or contradict what you said); I am arguing about this war because it hits too close to home, two people I know have been effected by this drastically, one of them is putting his life at risk for something I believe to be unjust, how do you think that makes me feel?

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#1 (permalink) 03-28-2003, 03:22 PM
namron_420s Old School Stoner Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 5,341	have you forgotten? I hear people saying we don't need this war I say there's some things worth fighting for What about our freedom and this piece of ground We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend Have you forgotten how it felt that day? To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden Have you forgotten? They took all the footage off my T.V. Said it's too disturbing for you and me It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say If it was up to me I'd show it everyday Some say this country's just out looking for a fight After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right Have you forgotten how it felt that day? To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden Have you forgotten? I've been there with the soldiers Who've gone away to war And you can bet that they remember Just what they're fighting for Have you forgotten how it felt that day? To see your homeland under fire And her people blown away Have you forgotten when those towers fell? We had neighbors still inside going thru a living hell And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout bin Laden Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten all the people killed? Some went down like heros in that Pennsylvania field Have you forgotten about our Pentagon? All the loved ones that we lost and those left to carry on Don't you tell me not to worry about bin Laden Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? Have you forgotten? __________________ i stepped in a pile of dirtydingus while taking a big poppa puff of sensimil, got mad and went to reform mary jane laws, that didnt work so now igotthecottons, last night my neighbor caught me smokinokie so i chased that critter off, went inside, and rubbed my nubbin

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#6 (permalink) 03-29-2003, 01:38 AM
ReformMaryJaneLaws RMJL-Forum Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 16,900	That was great, Norm!!! It really was! I know I haven't forgotten...about that or anything else that we've endured. __________________ RMJL GC Rules

#8 (permalink) 03-29-2003, 02:00 AM
ReformMaryJaneLaws RMJL-Forum Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 16,900	I don't see anywhere in any of the posts in this thread that Iraq was even mentioned...yeah, we're fighting but nothing was said specifically about it. Why does every thread have to lead to this????? Addition: We all disagree on this but allow some of us to honor those fighting and those who we love who are over there in some way or another. Also, unless you are Saddam...you don't really know if he funded the terrorism we experienced. None of us knows for sure either way. __________________ RMJL GC Rules**

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#11 (permalink) 03-29-2003, 02:13 AM
ReformMaryJaneLaws RMJL-Forum Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 16,900	KraziHare...it is apparent that you are against this and that fine but why argue in every thread? Norm was just trying to do something good and I appreciate it as did some others. But some of us have friends and family who defend our rights...the same rights that you enjoy... and so many of the citizens of Iraq don't even get a glimpse of that because Saddam wants to keep them under his control. He takes away their rights as humans and not all of them are against this. Former Iraqis who live in this country are glad that this is happening. Disagree...that's your right...but why start something in every thread about it? __________________ RMJL GC Rules

#12 (permalink) 03-29-2003, 02:16 AM
KraziHare Likes Carrots Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Somewhere... probably Posts: 2,426	RMJL, My best friend, a friend I've known since I was 3, is fighting right now. I'll honor and support him by sending him letters and hoping he comes home safely, what does any of what was posted have to do with supporting troops anyway? You may think Namron was trying to do a good thing (in fact I do too, I just think he did it in the worst way possible), but I think I was trying to do a good thing, if he gets to speak his mind so do I. And I'm arguing because I think what Namron posted is fundementally wrong, it's something I'd do whether or not it was about war. There's never a time when one shouldn't speak their mind and I believe we can all love and respect each other even if we don't agree. We'll be rivals in theory and blades in spirit edit: Besides, despite what you're saying you still argued some of my points, if you don't want to argue don't, I'm sure some of the other pro war people around here would take up the slack And if words are truly as powerful as it says in your signature then why would you want to stop arguing? __________________ Nonfamiliarity makes you scared to see the beauty in front of your eyes, you're thinking narrowly. Everything is an unpredictable occurrence if you've experienced everything except the purpose. Last edited by KraziHare; 03-29-2003 at 02:25 AM.

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#14 (permalink) 03-29-2003, 02:32 AM
ReformMaryJaneLaws RMJL-Forum Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 16,900	I want to stop arguing because while I do believe in my quote...it doesn't always work. That's obvious. There's enough fighting going on in this world that I don't have to participate in it here. So, from now on...I'm staying out of these threads as I had done for so long before because this issue hits way too close to home for me. The war is something that we can agree to disagree on and I feel no need to argue about it, anymore. __________________ RMJL GC Rules

#15 (permalink) 03-29-2003, 02:38 AM
KraziHare Likes Carrots Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Somewhere... probably Posts: 2,426	heard ya loud and clear RMJL, I just want to add one comment regarding your last post (not to contend or contradict what you said); I am arguing about this war because it hits too close to home, two people I know have been effected by this drastically, one of them is putting his life at risk for something I believe to be unjust, how do you think that makes me feel? __________________ Nonfamiliarity makes you scared to see the beauty in front of your eyes, you're thinking narrowly. Everything is an unpredictable occurrence if you've experienced everything except the purpose.