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Old 06-26-2007, 06:42 PM
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Something besides the THC causes paranoia?

hello. so i was smoking weed when i first started smoking cannabis. like many, my first few highs were paranoid as fuck and had panic attacks like crazy.

fast forward a year. here i am. i smoke weed and hash. some weed i vaporize, some i smoke. same with the hash. i just smoked a little of my hash and i was blown about 10 minutes ago. Still pretty high right now. a week prior i had smoked weed and got that high (usually i get moderately stoned, this was super baked) and i almost had a panic attack. i was a little paranoid, too.

when i was high from that hash, i felt not the slightest bit paranoid, nor any hint of a panic attack. it's the same way when i vaporize my weed as opposed to smoking it.

here is what i came up with (i'm pretty high, so bear with me). When you make hash you take the THC and other oils from the cannabis. when you vaporize you only inhale the thc along with some other oils. when you smoke weed or hash, you inhale everything that the flame touches. Of course, some ash remains, but not much.

I don't think it's all in my head. i didn't believe the guy who said that when he vapes his highs are calmer than when he smokes. I only realized it now after smoking a little more hash than i usually do.

could it be that smoking hash/vaporizing weed gives you a more comfortable high?


 
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:40 AM
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wicked theory bro, sorry i have no idea tho. this takin the thread to the top of the page should help get some more posters plzzzzzzz heh
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I get paranoid with hash, bud, or oils. THC is only one of about 66 other active chemicles in cannabis.
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There are about 400+ known different chemicals in marijuana (dont worry, this 'fact' is used often by anti-mj organizations... Most organic matter is composed of hundreds, if not thousands of different chemicals. To compare, the human body has over 10,000 different chemicals).

Only about 20 of those chemicals are canabinoids and can bind to canabinoid receptors in the brain.

Every different strain has different amounts of each canabinoid.

So, because each canabinoid affects receptors in different parts of the brain (and at different levels.... THC is often attributed as the main psychoactive molecule.), the strain you smoke will produce a different high.

So depending on how you smoke the marijuana (some of the canabinoids are 'stickier then others and get stuck to the glass or metal, or perhaps some of it dissolves in bongwater better then others), and the strain, the high will be different.
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There are about 400+ known different chemicals in marijuana (dont worry, this 'fact' is used often by anti-mj organizations... Most organic matter is composed of hundreds, if not thousands of different chemicals. To compare, the human body has over 10,000 different chemicals).

Only about 20 of those chemicals are canabinoids and can bind to canabinoid receptors in the brain.

Every different strain has different amounts of each canabinoid.

So, because each canabinoid affects receptors in different parts of the brain (and at different levels.... THC is often attributed as the main psychoactive molecule.), the strain you smoke will produce a different high.

So depending on how you smoke the marijuana (some of the canabinoids are 'stickier then others and get stuck to the glass or metal, or perhaps some of it dissolves in bongwater better then others), and the strain, the high will be different.

That is one of the best explainations I've heard of that topic in a long time. But I also would like to add that the paranoia when your first start smoking could be a psychological reaction to the THC you are consuming. Since everyone experiences it at some point or another, I'm guessing maybe the weed can grown with some different than previously smoked before, and can trigger the paranoia button so to speak. But from my own experiences, I only became paranoid when I first started to smoke, and I haven't had a panic attack/parnoia since.

I've only smoked maybe 10 times out of a vaporizer so I definately can't speak from OP point of view.
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The fact that THC causes rapid pulse pretty much tell you it as at least linked to paranoia. Almost every panic attack from weed is strongly linked with that racing heart. Besides, it is normal to have a panic attack very rarely.
 
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I don't think it's all in my head. i didn't believe the guy who said that when he vapes his highs are calmer than when he smokes. I only realized it now after smoking a little more hash than i usually do.
I've used a lightbulb vape a number of times, and the highs are definitely not camler. They are much more intense, and uncomfortable.
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I used to get anxiety and paranoid like a mofo if i smoked on an empty stomach, try eating a banana since the tiny amount of triptophan in it will sedate you and calm you a little bit.
Some herbal remedies are drinking chamomile tea, tension tamer tea or some kind of relaxing herb tea, and also try taking valerian root which is available at publix wal mart of a pharmacy and its OTC. These used to work wonders for me. Good luck though.
 
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