smoking and usage

-mu · #1 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 03:34 PM

A friend of mine has expressed a desire to grow her own pot. Most of the weed she smokes makes her paranoid, but as it's not something that bothers me, I couldn't recommend any particular strain.

She's looking for something that would be fairly easy to grow in a small space, not too much couch-lock, but with a good strong high, and no (or even anti-) paranoia.

Suggestions?

-mu

allsmokedank · #2 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 03:37 PM

i can't really suggest a certain strain, but maybe a high sativa strain with rather high thc.. my thoughts are that it would get you high enough that you wouldn't be able to be paranoid, yet still lack of couchlock... not sure if this is a good suggestion, just my first thought.

Stylez1877 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 03:58 PM

I think the paranoia can be beaten in other ways than strain variation. It is all about the environment. Who you are with, what you are doing, where you are at. That along with your tolerence seems to most effect paranoia and levels of it.

allsmokedank · #4 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stylez1877

I think the paranoia can be beaten in other ways than strain variation. It is all about the environment. Who you are with, what you are doing, where you are at. That along with your tolerence seems to most effect paranoia and levels of it.

completely agree, also your general mood when you are smoking..

not to mention the root of paranoia is guilt, so there could be many more problems not related to the weed itself..

-mu · #5 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by allsmokedank

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Originally Posted by Stylez1877

I think the paranoia can be beaten in other ways than strain variation. It is all about the environment. Who you are with, what you are doing, where you are at. That along with your tolerence seems to most effect paranoia and levels of it.

completely agree, also your general mood when you are smoking..

not to mention the root of paranoia is guilt, so there could be many more problems not related to the weed itself..

Good thinking. In fact, when she was round the other night smoking some of my clippings, she said "this stuff isn't making me paranoid", so perhaps it's more to do with her home environment or something (the clippings aren't nearly mature, so I didn't want to recommend this strain because when fully mature it may be quite different).

She's definitely prone to paranoia anyway, so I just wondered if there was any particular strains that might work against that, or at least, not add to that. I'm still hoping an anti-paranoia strain exists.

But maybe I need to recommend therapy, instead!

-mu

allsmokedank · #6 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 04:23 PM

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Good thinking. In fact, when she was round the other night smoking some of my clippings, she said "this stuff isn't making me paranoid", so perhaps it's more to do with her home environment or something (the clippings aren't nearly mature, so I didn't want to recommend this strain because when fully mature it may be quite different).

She's definitely prone to paranoia anyway, so I just wondered if there was any particular strains that might work against that, or at least, not add to that. I'm still hoping an anti-paranoia strain exists.

But maybe I need to recommend therapy, instead!

-mu

who knows, i can kind of relate anxiety to paranoia, and i know some buds i have smoked have helped me with that quite a bit.. there may be an anti paranoia strain, its a wonderful plant, with as i have seen so far, endless uses, and they just seem to be developing more and more.

i have never really liked the idea of therapy by somone else, maybe its just a personal thing that i don't like anyone to know to much about me, i perfer self-therapy if you will, maybe meditation, it works wonders.

-mu · #7 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 04:45 PM

I was joking about the therapy, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Self-discovery is the key, yes. Thanks for catching that, allsmokedank. I've recommend meditation myself, many times. Especially when you've got some nice bud in you!

And yes, I do believe such a strain could exist. Cannabis never ceases to amaze me, the more I learn about it. I basically said to her, "If there isn't such a strain, you create it!".

It is my belief that humans and cannabis form a powerful synergistic relationship, the plant feeding from the human (fluids, vibes, smells, whatever), and eventually responding with perfect medicine. The tricky part may be getting the right genetic material to start with, preferably "something close".

-mu

allsmokedank · #8 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 05:01 PM

hmm, seems like we have a lot of the same views, yeah, im sure if somthing doesn't exist that could help, somthing can be made that will help, but i think it would be much easier and a lot less time consuming to work through it some other way.. im not really fond of treating somthing (nomatter how much i like the medecine) when it can be helped by some other non chemical solution, i think that even if there is an anti paranoia strain, it isn't the best solution, because it is doing nothing but covering it up, instead of killing it at the root.

sorry about the lengthy post, it may be un-clear and run on a bit. i find it hard to express my thoughts sometimes.

TokingChocolate · #9 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 05:24 PM

Northern Lights is easy to grow and a real nice strain also

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FormrlyKnownAs · #10 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 05:34 PM

haze grows anywhere... even if you barely do anything...

solve the paranoia... smoke alone... learn to except it... then it adds something special to your high... i speak from experience... course i still recommend therapy...

-mu · #11 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FormrlyKnownAs

solve the paranoia... smoke alone... learn to except it... then it adds something special to your high... i speak from experience... course i still recommend therapy...

You didn't read the thread, did you?
Thanks for the Haze recommendation, though. Maybe a haze cross will be the ticket.

TokingChocolate, I've no experience with Northern Lights, though I've heard many great things about it. But, isn't it a total couch-lock high?

I hear you good allsmokedank, the "magic bullet" approach is at best, second-best. I don't take pills. Period. But I do think there's a place for cannabis in any form of self-realisation, even if it simply allows us to make connections that weren't possible before. In our minds, I mean.

A little paranoia is useful, essential even. There are aspects of my own thoughts that, if taken to their extreme, could be called paranoia, but they don't trouble me; quite the opposite.

But this isn't about me, and I don't have that much influence over her life (though I give advice and suggestions), I'm mainly looking for strain advice!

-mu

TokingChocolate · #12 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 06:44 PM

Well you could grow arjan's strawberry haze ...
I've grown it bymyself and that should be the right high when u want the Energetic "high".
I would say that u can get a nice trip with no paranoia from any strain.
U will have to just try the different strains and get the one that suits you best.
NL-there are many different NLs from different breeders-most of em are couch-lock some are niiiiiice crosses that get u way beyond sky.

allsmokedank · #13 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 06:51 PM

sorry about that, i was just trying to make good conversation on a subject i like to talk/think about, as far as strains, i think nevilles haze would be good for it, never tried it, but heard nothing but good things.

Russian Roulett · #14 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 07:51 PM

I would suggest to be in a perfect surrounding with nice music and good envirment surrounded with people he/she fully trusts and loves.

-mu · #15 (**permalink**) 11-28-2006, 08:01 PM

Oh, it's all good, allsmokedank! Your input is very much appreciated. And I'm up for exploring paranoia, too, I'll even pass on any good suggestions!

I keep hearing good things about neville's haze. Do you know if it is easy to grow? She has zero experience, though I'm working on that, of course.

-mu

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#1 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 03:34 PM
-mu me+cannabis=me Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: somewhere between here and here Posts: 916	pot without paranoia. recommendations? A friend of mine has expressed a desire to grow her own pot. Most of the weed she smokes makes her paranoid, but as it's not something that bothers me, I couldn't recommend any particular strain. She's looking for something that would be fairly easy to grow in a small space, not too much couch-lock, but with a good strong high, and no (or even anti-) paranoia. Suggestions? -mu __________________ smoke seeds every day

#2 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 03:37 PM
allsmokedank piss off yo. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 791	i can't really suggest a certain strain, but maybe a high sativa strain with rather high thc.. my thoughts are that it would get you high enough that you wouldn't be able to be paranoid, yet still lack of couchlock... not sure if this is a good suggestion, just my first thought. __________________ thanks Dark_Angers!

#3 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 03:58 PM
Stylez1877 Stoner-Pornstar-Mod Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 4,151	I think the paranoia can be beaten in other ways than strain variation. It is all about the environment. Who you are with, what you are doing, where you are at. That along with your tolerence seems to most effect paranoia and levels of it. __________________ Nutrients/Bugs/Various Problems Guide Germination step by step Growing Vocabulary

#7 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 04:45 PM
-mu me+cannabis=me Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: somewhere between here and here Posts: 916	I was joking about the therapy, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Self-discovery is the key, yes. Thanks for catching that, allsmokedank. I've recommend meditation myself, many times. Especially when you've got some nice bud in you! And yes, I do believe such a strain could exist. Cannabis never ceases to amaze me, the more I learn about it. I basically said to her, "If there isn't such a strain, you create it!". It is my belief that humans and cannabis form a powerful synergistic relationship, the plant feeding from the human (fluids, vibes, smells, whatever), and eventually responding with perfect medicine. The tricky part may be getting the right genetic material to start with, preferably "something close". -mu __________________ smoke seeds every day

#8 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 05:01 PM
allsmokedank piss off yo. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 791	hmm, seems like we have a lot of the same views, yeah, im sure if somthing doesn't exist that could help, somthing can be made that will help, but i think it would be much easier and a lot less time consuming to work through it some other way.. im not really fond of treating somthing (nomatter how much i like the medecine) when it can be helped by some other non chemical solution, i think that even if there is an anti paranoia strain, it isn't the best solution, because it is doing nothing but covering it up, instead of killing it at the root. sorry about the lengthy post, it may be un-clear and run on a bit. i find it hard to express my thoughts sometimes. __________________ thanks Dark_Angers!

#9 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 05:24 PM
TokingChocolate European hardcore smokah. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Estonia Posts: 357	Northern Lights is easy to grow and a real nice strain also . __________________

#10 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 05:34 PM
FormrlyKnownAs Lost and Found Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 123	haze grows anywhere... even if you barely do anything... solve the paranoia... smoke alone... learn to except it... then it adds something special to your high... i speak from experience... course i still recommend therapy...

#12 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 06:44 PM
TokingChocolate European hardcore smokah. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Estonia Posts: 357	Well you could grow arjan's strawberry haze ... I've grown it bymyself and that should be the right high when u want the Energetic "high". I would say that u can get a nice trip with no paranoia from any strain. U will have to just try the different strains and get the one that suits you best. NL-there are many different NLs from different breeders-most of em are couch-lock some are niiiiiice crosses that get u way beyond sky. __________________

#13 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 06:51 PM
allsmokedank piss off yo. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ohio Posts: 791	sorry about that, i was just trying to make good conversation on a subject i like to talk/think about, as far as strains, i think nevilles haze would be good for it, never tried it, but heard nothing but good things. __________________ thanks Dark_Angers!

#14 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 07:51 PM
Russian Roulett Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 537	I would suggest to be in a perfect surrounding with nice music and good envirment surrounded with people he/she fully trusts and loves.

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#15 (permalink) 11-28-2006, 08:01 PM
-mu me+cannabis=me Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: somewhere between here and here Posts: 916	Oh, it's all good, allsmokedank! Your input is very much appreciated. And I'm up for exploring paranoia, too, I'll even pass on any good suggestions! I keep hearing good things about neville's haze. Do you know if it is easy to grow? She has zero experience, though I'm working on that, of course. -mu __________________ smoke seeds every day