Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[Kush Lord]

Originally Posted by shambala

yea buddy, mark it on ur calender.

even though im not one for myths and very skeptical when it comes to pretty much anything...there may be some significance to 2012, while its significant or insignificant, who knows....but it may be VERY significant compared to how our consciousness or life used to be back then...the changes may be a sort of gradual process.

im guessing we will advance somehow. But unless we're going to live eternally in paradise or something, im not gonna get too excited about it.

[letsgetPOD]

Lol, that reads like a club of rome document. The author seems brainwashed into thinking humans are causing an eco-disaster. This could not be further from the truth. This is political ideology, someone thinks humans are bad and they need to be punished, well you know what OP why don't you sign up to be sterilized, why don't you pay your carbon taxes, ahh the guilt, ahhh here take my money, save THE EARTH, OH GAIA, bullshit, you are moron if you believe this.

[blazin_busta]

Originally Posted by letsgetPOD

Lol, that reads like a club of rome document. The author seems brainwashed into thinking humans are causing an eco-disaster. This could not be further from the truth. This is political ideology, someone thinks humans are bad and they need to be punished, well you know what OP why don't you sign up to be sterilized, why don't you pay your carbon taxes, ahh the guilt, ahhh here take my money, save THE EARTH, OH GAIA, bullshit, you are moron if you believe this.

Don't honestly tell me that when you look at the giant concrete towers that cast a long shadow across the earth, you don't notice anything strange?

We're not bad, it's what we're naturally programmed to do, do you see our colonies swallowing up the earth? Do you see our ignorant friends destroying themselves and the people around them?

Constantly feeding, Constantly fucking, Constantly taking, There's nothing anybody can do about it though. Nothing can stop us, only a holocaust could.

Sorry for being pretentious, just throwing my opinion into the mix.

[letsgetPOD]

Originally Posted by blazin_busta

Don't honestly tell me that when you look at the giant concrete towers that cast a long shadow across the earth, you don't notice anything strange?

We're not bad, it's what we're naturally programmed to do, do you see our colonies swallowing up the earth? Do you see our ignorant friends destroying themselves and the people around them?

Constantly feeding, Constantly fucking, Constantly taking, There's nothing anybody can do about it though. Nothing can stop us, only a holocaust could.

Sorry for being pretentious, just throwing my opinion into the mix.

I want humanity to succeede, I don't want to see the people annihilated by the globalists. Technologically advanced society should work to perpetuate mankind, and allocate earth's resources effectively. The international banking elite who own most of the corporations are spewing out horrendous things on the people, chemtrails, gmo foods, etc and worst of all they are suppressing technologies that would free humanity. The game is run from the top down, and unfortunatley those men are evil and selfish, illuminati, bankers, whatever you want to call them. Society contributes, but we have the technology to maintain 10 billion plus, but the evil globalist want to see 500 mil Its time to start deprogramming ourselves, plain and simple from this enslaving system, and that can only be done through creating a new one, because the current one is corrupt, a holocaust does not need to occur for humanity to win, that is a rediculous idea.

[sushil_yadav]

Industrial Society has been spreading blatant lies over the years.

"Green Industry", "Green Technology", "Ethical Consumerism", "Sustainable Development".

These are contradictory terms – these are oxymorons.

Industrialization can never be green – it is impossible.

You cannot save a person after you have killed him.
You cannot save ecosystems after you have killed them for making consumer goods.


When we make consumer goods we kill Animals, Trees, Air, Water and Land - directly or indirectly.

Industrial Society destroys ecosystems - all Industrial Societies destroy ecosystems.

It hardly matters whether it is "Capitalist Industrial Society" - "Communist Industrial Society" - or "Socialist Industrial Society".

Industrial Society destroys ecosystems at every stage of its functioning - when consumer goods are produced - when consumer goods are used - when consumer goods are discarded/ recycled.

Raw material for industry is obtained by cutting up Forests. It is extracted by mining/ digging up the earth. It comes by destroying/ killing Trees, Animals and Land.

Industries/ Factories use Water. The water that comes out of Factories is contaminated with hundreds of toxic chemicals. What to speak of Rivers - entire Oceans have been polluted. Industry kills Water.

Industries/ Factories burn millions of tonnes of fuel - and when raw material is melted/ heated up, hundreds of toxic chemicals are released into the atmosphere. Industry kills Air.

Industrial Society has covered millions of square miles of land with cement and concrete. Industry kills Land.

When consumer goods are discarded/ thrown away in landfills it again leads to destruction of ecosystems.

When consumer goods are recycled, hundreds of toxic chemicals are released into air, water and land.

Consumer goods are sold/ marketed through a network of millions of kilometers of rail / road network and shipping routes which causes destruction of all ecosystems that come in the way.


We have limited resources/ ecosystems on earth which is just 40,000 km in circumference.

If we destroy ecosystems for fewer things the ecosystems will last longer.

If we destroy ecosystems for more things [consumer goods] the ecosystems will finish much sooner.

The fewer things we make the more sustainable we are.

This is common sense - plain common sense - which the so called smart, intelligent, advanced, civilized and developed Industrial Society does not possess.



We are alive because of ecosystems - we owe our very existence to ecosystems.

Industrial Society has destroyed most ecosystems within a span of 250 years after Industrial Revolution.

Industrial Society has destroyed necessary things [animals, trees, air, water and land] for making unnecessary things [consumer goods].

Ecosystems are not consumer goods that can be manufactured, repaired or restored by MultiNational Companies in industries and factories.

The collapse has already happened for millions of other species. Most of them have been decimated.

Very soon it will be the turn of man to go.



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Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[dv1033]

^^^ Um, ecosystems have constantly been destroyed and rebuilt over billions of years throughout earth's history. You are taking this to the extreme.

[Zylark]

Originally Posted by dv1033

^^^ Um, ecosystems have constantly been destroyed and rebuilt over billions of years throughout earth's history. You are taking this to the extreme.

Nonononononononono, do not feed the troll. Read the thread from the start, all his ramblings have been countered.

He just did a Lazarus trick on this thread, only one he's ever posted in btw, that is on this forum, though in some thousands (currently, 10.300) of other forums, he's posted the exact same thing.

Just google the first few sentences in the original post of this thread and see for yourself.

[dv1033]

My bad

[sushil_yadav]

Originally Posted by blazin_busta

Don't honestly tell me that when you look at the giant concrete towers that cast a long shadow across the earth, you don't notice anything strange?

We're not bad, it's what we're naturally programmed to do, do you see our colonies swallowing up the earth? Do you see our ignorant friends destroying themselves and the people around them?

Constantly feeding, Constantly fucking, Constantly taking, There's nothing anybody can do about it though. Nothing can stop us, only a holocaust could.

blazin_busta,

Thanks for your post. You are right, humans are superpredators - the superdestroyers.

What is most amazing about the issue of sustainability is the fact that modern society is trying to sustain the unsustainable - it is trying to sustain a consumerist system which has existed for almost zero percent of human existence on earth. The present consumerist lifestyle has existed for about 100 years. If we compare this with the total duration of human existence on earth it comes to almost zero percent.

Economy is a non-issue. Environment is important. Economy will not even exist without environment. Humans will not even exist without environment.

Modern society has plunged to extreme depths of insanity.
Modern society thinks it can be sustainable while it continues producing thousands of consumer goods.
Modern society thinks a peaceul world is possible while it continues to sell billions of tonnes of weapons all over the world.
Modern society thinks cancer can be cured while it continues flooding the ecosystems with thousands of carcinogens.

On a small planet which is just 40,000 km in circumference the first rule of sustainability is - destroy less.

We destroy ecosystems for food - for clothing - for shelter - and for thousands of consumer goods.

The less we destroy - the more sustainable we are.

The fewer things we make - the more sustainable we are.

On a small planet like earth only a non-consumerist society can be sustainable - only a society that destroys ecosystems for food, clothing, shelter[and health care] can be sustainable.



When something goes wrong with our cars, computers and aeroplanes, we contact the manufacturer to know how they could be repaired - where they could be repaired.
All ecosystems on earth are getting destroyed moment by moment. To repair, restore and regenerate them we need to contact the manufacturer. But where is the manufacturer of ecosystems? There is no human manufacturer - There are no multiNational Companies that manufactured rivers and oceans, fertile soil, forests, millions of species, millions of members in millions of species, arctic ice and other glaciers.

About 30 years ago most people refused to believe that arctic ice was melting or could melt in future.

Then satellite pictures started appearing and provided proof with "before and after" pictures. People reluctantly accepted that ice was melting - but were still not alarmed. They said it would take hundreds of years - thousands of years for ice to melt to a dangerous level.

If we compare satellite pictures of arctic ice of this year with those taken 30 years ago we would know how alarming the situation is.

Every ecosystem is in grave danger. The doomsday scenario is approaching hundreds of times faster than predicted earlier. The signs - the indicators are already there - the recent climate changes - the extreme weather conditions - droughts, floods, fires, hurricanes and typhoons. The collapse has already happened for millions of other species - they have been decimated. Human collapse is very near - just around the corner.



sushil_yadav
Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[sushil_yadav]

Very soon science is going to announce the gene for environmental destruction.

Humans are not responsible for environmental destruction - it is the gene.

Humans are not responsible for anything - the genes are responsible for everything.

It is the gene which is responsible for obesity.

It is the gene which is responsible for cancer.

It is the gene which is responsible for violence/ aggression.

It is the gene which is responsible for mental suffering.


When it comes to Olympic medal they will give it to a person - not to the gene.

When it comes to Nobel Prize they will give it to a person - not to the gene.

When it comes to rewarding work they will pay million dollar salary to the CEO - not to the gene.

When it comes to "Theory of Relativity" they will give credit to Einstein - not to the gene.



On earth we have got oceans and oceans of water - which have been polluted/ poisoned by man - but this is hardly news for humans.

Recently Man bombarded the moon with a rocket to discover traces of water - and it became the newspaper headline across the world.

They call it progress, growth, development.

Height of insanity - Height of abnormality.

Don't search for a few molecules of water in outer space.

Take care of the water that is available on earth.


sushil_yadav
Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[Felt]

Originally Posted by letsgetPOD

I want humanity to succeede, I don't want to see the people annihilated by the globalists. Technologically advanced society should work to perpetuate mankind, and allocate earth's resources effectively. The international banking elite who own most of the corporations are spewing out horrendous things on the people, chemtrails, gmo foods, etc and worst of all they are suppressing technologies that would free humanity. The game is run from the top down, and unfortunatley those men are evil and selfish, illuminati, bankers, whatever you want to call them. Society contributes, but we have the technology to maintain 10 billion plus, but the evil globalist want to see 500 mil Its time to start deprogramming ourselves, plain and simple from this enslaving system, and that can only be done through creating a new one, because the current one is corrupt, a holocaust does not need to occur for humanity to win, that is a rediculous idea.

Then technology overall has not been used for the benefit of mankind. For example, over seas 3rd world countries are getting garbage dumped on them.

Idiological wars? Come on, the government is after poppy and gum for their friend corporate.

Better health? What about all the shit they've spilled in our backyard in the past? And the diseases caused by injecting livestock and agriculture with countless chemicals? Safe the argument of "safe" chemicals. That's propaganda science for politics.

And not only are we given diseases and being sold 'cures' by the same people. But also, having our specices' immune systems being weakened over time.

And ..people DIE. Just like animals do. It's just a balance. It's nature's check to populations. Whether earth is able to sustain 10billion or not, doesn't matter. A lot will die in the future by natual disasters. It is possible. Wait until Yellowstone erupts, wait till the gulf stream stops. We'll see how great technology is.

Technolgy in reality is not being used for a better way of life or keeping the environment safe. Far from it.

Just used to be manipulated by those who don't give shit about anyone but how green they can get. Get it?