Chem Trails, anyone?

[Mist425]

Who exactly is benefiting from the raining down of chemicals on people all over the U.S? The U.S government? I mean... the U.S government is located within the borders of the U.S, right? So they'd be raining these chemicals down on themselves right? Doesn't seem to make much sense....

[Madrid]

Originally Posted by Mist425

Who exactly is benefiting from the raining down of chemicals on people all over the U.S? The U.S government? I mean... the U.S government is located within the borders of the U.S, right? So they'd be raining these chemicals down on themselves right? Doesn't seem to make much sense....

shh rational thinking

[wackdeafboy]

Originally Posted by Mist425

Who exactly is benefiting from the raining down of chemicals on people all over the U.S? The U.S government? I mean... the U.S government is located within the borders of the U.S, right? So they'd be raining these chemicals down on themselves right? Doesn't seem to make much sense....

Us gov is part of the secret society. They don't give a shit about us.

[pavlakos]

Originally Posted by Mist425

Who exactly is benefiting from the raining down of chemicals on people all over the U.S? The U.S government? I mean... the U.S government is located within the borders of the U.S, right? So they'd be raining these chemicals down on themselves right? Doesn't seem to make much sense....

not the US govt. people honestly never even think about this but youre absolutely right. that would make no sense.

its certain secret organizations which lobby the govt, or did, who can sway them. these guys have basically infiltrated the govt long ago, and working toward their own agenda of control and a fixed population, at around 500 mill. they also run the UN.

edit: wackdeafboy the US govt is not part of a secret society, in fact many figures in the govt im sure are copmpletely oblivious to whats going on. The pawns they can use are in the secret societies though.

[HighHaze]

Originally Posted by Mist425

Who exactly is benefiting from the raining down of chemicals on people all over the U.S? The U.S government? I mean... the U.S government is located within the borders of the U.S, right? So they'd be raining these chemicals down on themselves right? Doesn't seem to make much sense....

you do know that its possible that they can only spray certain areas and NOT spray others, right? and they can just stay clear of the areas sprayed.

i dont 100% believe in chemtrails but for the most part i do.

and here is something to think about. how do you think our gov would handle overpopulation?

[resistance]

[quote=pavlakos;4210365]not the US govt. people honestly never even think about this but youre absolutely right. that would make no sense.

its certain secret organizations which lobby the govt, or did, who can sway them. these guys have basically infiltrated the govt long ago, and working toward their own agenda of control and a fixed population, at around 500 mill. they also run the UN.

edit: wackdeafboy the US govt is not part of a secret society, in fact many figures in the govt im sure are copmpletely oblivious to whats going on. The pawns they can use are in the secret societies though.[/quote]


i agree. most people in the government have no idea what the agenda is. theyre just doing their jobs. the people in the bottom and mid levels of the pyramid dont know shit about whats going on up top... they just do the work to hold it up.

[Madrid]

Originally Posted by pavlakos

not the US govt. people honestly never even think about this but youre absolutely right. that would make no sense.

its certain secret organizations which lobby the govt, or did, who can sway them. these guys have basically infiltrated the govt long ago, and working toward their own agenda of control and a fixed population, at around 500 mill. they also run the UN.

edit: wackdeafboy the US govt is not part of a secret society, in fact many figures in the govt im sure are copmpletely oblivious to whats going on. The pawns they can use are in the secret societies though.

i dont think anyone disagrees our government is controlled by the few in self interest...

But what about the millions of underlings needed to carry out all these conspiracies?

Where are all the assembly line chemical manufacturing grunts for these chemtrails? Where are the pilots? Where are the mechanics, where are the record keepers, .etc? There isn't, for all these different conspiracies, any ONE person who talks about it to a family member who posts it on the internet?

Nothing can be so secret.

Word domination through financial squeeze-by-the-balls tactics, yes. Chemtrails..noooo

[Floyd Y 420]

Originally Posted by Mist425

Who exactly is benefiting from the raining down of chemicals on people all over the U.S? The U.S government? I mean... the U.S government is located within the borders of the U.S, right? So they'd be raining these chemicals down on themselves right? Doesn't seem to make much sense....

Actually Washington D.C. is a city-state, not apart of America. The spraying is most likely some form of population control.

[Budwisesir]

No one figured it out yet?

These chemical droppings are for the weakening of the human immune system. With that being said, stock up on medicine before you need it when the prices go up.

[HighHaze]

Originally Posted by Madrid

i dont think anyone disagrees our government is controlled by the few in self interest...

But what about the millions of underlings needed to carry out all these conspiracies?

Where are all the assembly line chemical manufacturing grunts for these chemtrails? Where are the pilots? Where are the mechanics, where are the record keepers, .etc? There isn't, for all these different conspiracies, any ONE person who talks about it to a family member who posts it on the internet?

Nothing can be so secret.

Word domination through financial squeeze-by-the-balls tactics, yes. Chemtrails..noooo

so because it sounds like too big of a secret, it is impossible huh?

suppose that this stuff was true for a second....do you think that they would make it easy enough to find the freakin manufacturer? do you think that the pilots would go on national TV and say "yea i sprayed chemtrails on all of you!"

come on man

[Madrid]

Originally Posted by HighHaze

so because it sounds like too big of a secret, it is impossible huh?

suppose that this stuff was true for a second....do you think that they would make it easy enough to find the freakin manufacturer? do you think that the pilots would go on national TV and say "yea i sprayed chemtrails on all of you!"

come on man

Yes I do. Thousands of people have to in on this for it to work.

Not one comes forward? Not one single bit of evidence? You act as if the people running this are fucking Jesus and Satan. These people are just as human as you and I, only they have more money.

When the united states sunk its own ship to get into vietnam (or was it korea, i dont remember) and covered it up there were immediately tapes of Lyndon B Johnson giving the order.


nothing is kept secret among imperfect humans






put it this way...try a little bit of the other side...Attack your own beliefs and investigate against yourself.

Me, I have thousands of posts on AboveTopSecret.com, the #1 forum for conspiracy theories. I stopped posting when I decided to attack my own beliefs and get a non biased investigation going on this. ive been a sheep and a tin foil hat

[Medicine Al]

Madrid- nothing is kept secret among imperfect humans

Except the location of Jimmy Hoffa's body, and the original recipe for KFC chicken?

Barium occurs in nature, at various levels, and is spread around by the wind, so how can anyone prove it's source? Very difficult to prove where dust comes from, isn't it?

Barium is natural, so anyone delivering it would be told they are spraying natural substances, so why would anyone report it?

Barium is being found in majorly heightened amounts, everywhere in America. If you do not live near a large mining operation, this makes no sense, so if the air quality in your area shows heightened levels of Barium, you are probably being chem-trailed.

Barium exposure will make people have high blood pressure, gastroenteritis, heart palpitations, nervous tension, and a general feeling of physical weakness.

It will make many folks feel miserable, and they won't quite know why.

That sounds just like the US government I've always known.

I counted 63 trails in the sky at once, over the Nevada desert, on Nov. 28, 2008, driving north from Las Vegas on US 95.

I guess all those high altitude flyovers of Nevada, with their ensuing chemtrails, were just a government smokescreen over area 51?

I can also tell an actual contrail when I see one. It will disappear in 10-15 minutes tops. Some of these chemtrails are hanging up there, breaking up in slow, swirling patterns of descending fingerling clouds, for hours.

Barium has been used for weather control experiments, so it can be administered into the atmosphere at will, and can blamelessly be discounted, evidentially, as occuring naturally, anywhere.

It is the perfect substance for fooling all the people, all the time, and making a lot of people sick, who can't afford air filters and potassium supplements.(an antidote to Barium exposure)

Those would be the poor, and the elderly, and the immuno-compromised, to name a few.

It's not as far fetched as it sounds, really.

[Brassman27]

Originally Posted by Medicine Al

Nothing at all to this obviously crackpot theory, right?
http://www.chemtrails911.com/lab_tests_and_effects.htm

I am with Sam Spade. These formations are made by planes, and the trails are not moving because there is no wind at the altitude that the plane was at. It's simple science: Wind? Clouds disperse and move fast. No wind? Clouds hang and dissipate slowly.

[Madrid]

Originally Posted by Medicine Al

Except the location of Jimmy Hoffa's body, and the original recipe for KFC chicken?

Barium occurs in nature, at various levels, and is spread around by the wind, so how can anyone prove it's source? Very difficult to prove where dust comes from, isn't it?

Barium is natural, so anyone delivering it would be told they are spraying natural substances, so why would anyone report it?

Barium is being found in majorly heightened amounts, everywhere in America. If you do not live near a large mining operation, this makes no sense, so if the air quality in your area shows heightened levels of Barium, you are probably being chem-trailed.

Barium exposure will make people have high blood pressure, gastroenteritis, heart palpitations, nervous tension, and a general feeling of physical weakness.

It will make many folks feel miserable, and they won't quite know why.

That sounds just like the US government I've always known.

I counted 63 trails in the sky at once, over the Nevada desert, on Nov. 28, 2008, driving north from Las Vegas on US 95.

I guess all those high altitude flyovers of Nevada, with their ensuing chemtrails, were just a government smokescreen over area 51?

I can also tell an actual contrail when I see one. It will disappear in 10-15 minutes tops. Some of these chemtrails are hanging up there, breaking up in slow, swirling patterns of descending fingerling clouds, for hours.

Barium has been used for weather control experiments, so it can be administered into the atmosphere at will, and can blamelessly be discounted, evidentially, as occuring naturally, anywhere.

It is the perfect substance for fooling all the people, all the time, and making a lot of people sick, who can't afford air filters and potassium supplements.(an antidote to Barium exposure)

Those would be the poor, and the elderly, and the immuno-compromised, to name a few.

It's not as far fetched as it sounds, really.

Comparing a piece of paper, or a single dead body to a massive on-going operation directly involving thousands of people, and indirectly involving tens of thousands of people is not making me feel this is any more logical.

I also would like to know why no science has agreed with this?

I mean science has even backed up the harms of flouridated water. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposit...r_fluoridation

Measuring contrails' impact is not an exact science. Depending on a plane's altitude, and the temperature and humidity of the atmosphere, contrails can vary enormously in their thickness and duration, and therefore in their reflecting or insulating power. Most last minutes or hours, some last days. During the day, persistent contrails trap slightly more heat than they reflect back into space - at night they continue to trap heat. In areas with dense air traffic, such as Europe and North America, contrails could be warming the atmosphere by up to 0.1ºC, Minnis and colleagues found in 19992.

Src: Contrails and Aviation-induced Cirrus Clouds: Relation with Temperature (02)



You counted 63? Woohoo there are 150,000 flights per day in the United States







also, please cite a source here:

Barium is being found in majorly heightened amounts, everywhere in America.

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by Madrid

How do you know?

There is all sorts of variables regarding contrail dispersion...temperature, pressure, wind, humidity and other stuff that I dont know because im not a scientist

There isn't very much evidence for chemtrails being weapons

Uh... It's usually really windy where airplanes fly... Go stand on top of your house and see how much windier it is than being on the ground... Then add about 20,000 feet to that.

Originally Posted by Madrid

Where are all the assembly line chemical manufacturing grunts for these chemtrails?

Are there not bases around the world, in which we are not allowed to know what is being conducted there (A-51 for example - I believe there's more that we don't know about yet, too).

Originally Posted by Madrid

Where are the pilots?

The US military? When you're in the military, you do as your superior says. If he says "get in this plane, and drop your cargo over coordinates X, Y & Z", you do it. You don't say "But sir! What is it that I'm dropping?". Hell, even if you ask, they don't gotta tell you. They may not even know, themselves.

Originally Posted by Madrid

Where are the mechanics,

The same ones who fix the planes normally. You really think the mechanics know that the plane was used to drop chem trails?? All the mechanic knows is what's broken, and how to fix it. I fail to see why you would even use this as an example to disprove the existence of chemtrails?? Just because they fix the planes, doesn't mean they know what the plane is carrying, or why. They're just doing their jobs and fixing the broken parts.

Originally Posted by Madrid

where are the record keepers, .etc?

The record keepers would be the ones who are in charge of the projects. I'm pretty sure there are lots of things that happen within the various agencies that we never get to know about - because they are kept classified/top secret. Again, I use A-51 as an example of this. How many of you can tell me what happens behind the closed doors of A-51?

Anyone?

Didn't think so

Originally Posted by Madrid

Word domination through financial squeeze-by-the-balls tactics, yes. Chemtrails..noooo

World domination through chemtrails... Noooo... Population control? Or a way to keep people sick so they will continue to buy drugs from the pharmaseutical companies (some of the gov'ts biggest suppliers of donations)? Most definitely a possibility.

Originally Posted by Budwisesir

No one figured it out yet?

These chemical droppings are for the weakening of the human immune system. With that being said, stock up on medicine before you need it when the prices go up.

Werd. I feel it's either population control - or a means of keeping us sick so we continue to buy more drugs.

Originally Posted by Medicine Al

Except the location of Jimmy Hoffa's body, and the original recipe for KFC chicken?

Barium occurs in nature, at various levels, and is spread around by the wind, so how can anyone prove it's source? Very difficult to prove where dust comes from, isn't it?

Barium is natural, so anyone delivering it would be told they are spraying natural substances, so why would anyone report it?

Barium is being found in majorly heightened amounts, everywhere in America. If you do not live near a large mining operation, this makes no sense, so if the air quality in your area shows heightened levels of Barium, you are probably being chem-trailed.

Barium exposure will make people have high blood pressure, gastroenteritis, heart palpitations, nervous tension, and a general feeling of physical weakness.

It will make many folks feel miserable, and they won't quite know why.

That sounds just like the US government I've always known.

I counted 63 trails in the sky at once, over the Nevada desert, on Nov. 28, 2008, driving north from Las Vegas on US 95.

I guess all those high altitude flyovers of Nevada, with their ensuing chemtrails, were just a government smokescreen over area 51?

I can also tell an actual contrail when I see one. It will disappear in 10-15 minutes tops. Some of these chemtrails are hanging up there, breaking up in slow, swirling patterns of descending fingerling clouds, for hours.

Barium has been used for weather control experiments, so it can be administered into the atmosphere at will, and can blamelessly be discounted, evidentially, as occuring naturally, anywhere.

It is the perfect substance for fooling all the people, all the time, and making a lot of people sick, who can't afford air filters and potassium supplements.(an antidote to Barium exposure)

Those would be the poor, and the elderly, and the immuno-compromised, to name a few.

It's not as far fetched as it sounds, really.

Originally Posted by Brassman27

I am with Sam Spade. These formations are made by planes, and the trails are not moving because there is no wind at the altitude that the plane was at. It's simple science: Wind? Clouds disperse and move fast. No wind? Clouds hang and dissipate slowly.

Most planes fly in the stratosphere. It's very windy in the stratosphere.