nibiru

[Blunder5]

has anyone hear about it?

supposed to be some planet or something wich is getting closer to the sun and we should be able to see it soon

but i don't know if its tru or not
but now people are supposed to be able to see it in down south in south america

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AmdazwAcgw

[Palmer Eldritch]

I'm sorry but this is garbage, not science at all. Ever hear of a little thing called gravity? if there were celestial bodies passing through our solar system, the orbits of the planets would have been altered and we'd have detected the anomaly a long time ago. A government cover up you say? not a chance, since there are thousands of private institutions who have the capability of detecting and analyzing large bodies traveling in our solar system. Hell, I could do it with a good telescope and my computer.

bad stoner! Stop the spread of misinformation and pseudoscience...

[Blunder5]

yeah,, I was just hoping that some one from chile or someone who had been in the south america would see this, so maybe they could tell me if its real or not... but the say that every one should be able to see it in 2010, so if not then i guess its not true...


but here is a picture of that new planet that was discoverd

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...05-images.html

[Maitereya]

its a ufo mother ship. they are coming back to get me.

[Blunder5]

no its not an ufo mother ship..

they say it is the 10th planet,
which used to br in our solar system,, but went of track and since that happend it comes like every 3600 years,


Zecharia Sitchin who is an archeologist,, who translated the sumarian language
and has been translating old texts,, but any way,, I find this really interesting it makes much more sense if this is supposed to be like this,, cause the life as we know it, the life that we live, has a lot of puzzles to solve........

if you are not intrested do not watch this

but if you are,, I recommend you to watch all 4 parts of that documentary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKwfS6zug_g

[Liquidtruth]

Or, Read This!

Originally Posted by Exit Mundi

You guessed it. If they ever start telling you about Planet-X, laugh your wits off. Don’t take any precautions – there’s no need. Planet X doesn’t exist. Never has. Never will. Off with you, Nibiru. Shoo.

[Blunder5]

ok I understand that nobody believes me,, I barely believe it my self,, but im just saying

if this is real,, than I would like to be informed by it,,,, so every one could prepare them self properly................

nobody knows what the americans is after in the middle eastern....

you don't have to believe anything,, this is just another possibility...

[pavlakos]

i think planet x is very real. its not necessary that its going to kill us all or anything though, i mean pluto was only discovered on the search for planet x anyway, which the sumerians knew about by the way. the sumerians also talked about nibiru too, why couldnt that one be real? pluto was.

[Liquidtruth]

Taken from Here.

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Q: "There could be such a thing as a Planet X around."

A: No, that's impossible. Planet X is said to have a highly elliptical orbit. But such orbits are unstable. Soon, the planet would get a circular orbit and become part of the 'normal' solar system - or it would fly off into deep space. There just is no other way.

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Q: "Sumerian mythology tells of a collision between two planets."

A: No, it doesn’t. In one particular Sumerian creation story, Earth is created after a violent conflict between Tiamat and Nibiru. But neither of them is a planet: they’re gods, the two of them. It was the writer Zecharia Sitchin who introduced the planets, not the Sumerians.

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Q: "The Sumerians knew of a planet they called `Nibiru'."

A: Wrong. `Nibiru' is just the ancient word for `ferry boat'. In some Babylonian texts, the word `nibiru' is used to describe the movement of the planet Jupiter - which was also called `Marduk'. So neither Nibiru nor Marduk refers to some weird planet. It just means: Jupiter! Nothing more, nothing less.

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Q: "The Sumerians knew very much about cosmology. That’s why you should take it serious when they say there is a Planet X around."

A: Wrong. Indeed, the Sumerians had the same amount of brain as we have. But they weren’t interested in astronomy at all. That came later, with the Babylonian civilization. And even then, the Babylonians believed Earth was a disk, with the Sun revolving around it! Just look at it this way: the Greek, the Chinese and the Maya knew lot more about cosmology than the Babylonians and the Sumerians– and they never mentioned a tenth planet!

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Q: "The Sumerians had a pictorial word, `shar', that means `planet', `orbit' and `3,600'. This must refer to the fact that Planet X has an orbit time of 3,600 years."

A: Far from it. 'Shar' means '3,600' alright. But in another language, Akkadian, there was a pictorial 'sharru' which meant 'Marduk' or 'supreme ruler' -- and nót `planet'. The mixing up of two completely different languages, once again, comes from Sitchin.

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Q: "The Babylonians frequently used the letter `X'. This means: `planet of the crossing'."

A: No, it doesn't. The Babylonians used X much like we do: to mark things. In specific, they used X's to mark their kettle. But the X doesn't refer to anything that has to do with planets.

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Q: "Planet X must have slammed into our world: that’s why the once-joined continents are split up and floating away from each other."

A: Total nonsense. The force that pushes the continents apart doesn't come from outer space – but from deep underneath the Earth’s crust. In the Atlantic, new seabed is constantly being formed, and this pushes the continents apart.

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Q: "Still, something huge did slam into our planet – modern science agrees on that."

A: Yes, but that particular event took place 4,5 billion years ago. In those days, a huge heavenly body cleft our planet in two, creating the Moon. But there weren’t even single-celled bacteria around at that time. Let alone Sumerians with clay tablets to write about the event.

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Q: "But the Sumerians were in contact with an alien race. They told them all about Planet X."

A: There is not a shred of evidence to support such hocus-pocus. Think of it this way: if the ancient Sumerians indeed were such good friends with an alien race, then why didn’t they even have the technology to prevent their culture from being run over again and again by invading neighbors? The Sumerians were pretty simple, rudimentary farmers that lived off of the land.

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Q: "But still, there's the `Berlin Seal' (also known as the `Akkadian Seal'). On it, you clearly see more planets than there are in our solar system:"


A: But what you see isn't a map of the solar system at all. It's decoration, probably. Or a picture of Venus, as seen from our planet, and surrounded by stars. The ancient Babylonians made funny little drawings like this all the time. And they all looked different. So it's just coincidence this one resembles a solar system.
We do know for sure that it isn't a map, because the Babylonians believed the Earth was the center of the solar system. No Babylonian would have placed the Sun in the center. Besides, the `map' is full of errors. The planets are out of proportions and Saturn has no ring. And obviously, there are too many `planets'.

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Q: "Joshua tells of a `long day’ – while the West Coast Indians have stories of a `long night’. That’s a clear indication the planet stopped rotating for a while when Planet X last came by.

A: No, that is impossible. Planets cannot just stop rotating for a while and then start again. Physics forbids it. And hey, if you'd read enough ancient writings, you would find `evidence’ for almost anything!

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Q: "Still, around 3,600 years ago, something awful did happen. There's a lot of evidence telling us that the world was struck by disaster."

A: Yes, but a volcano and not Planet X was the culprit. Around 1628 BC, the Greek volcano of Thera erupted, causing darkness even in China and a sudden, sharp climate drop all over the world. That's bad enough, but eruptions like these happen all the time. What's more, Thera was still a relatively small volcano, as you can read elsewhere on this site. It is worth noting that none of the ancient texts about the Thera disaster mentions anything about unusual events in the sky.

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Q: "Many astronomers believe Planet X exists. And for good reason: there’s some mysterious object tugging at the orbits of Neptune and the outer asteroids."

A: Not anymore they do. Indeed, for almost 150 years, astronomers assumed there could very well be another planet out there. But by now, we know that the astronomers were wrong. They simply didn't have the orbits of the outer planets correct, because they lacked the tools. By now, we know there is nothing strange about the orbits of the outer planets. And since then, the calculations add up fine.

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Q: "There's good geological evidence for Planet X. Once in a while, Earth is struck by mass extinctions. These extinctions show a very regular pattern, suggesting the planet is struck by disaster periodically."

A: Not true. Indeed, in 1984, two renowned palaeologists claimed the discovery of an `extinction pattern'. Every 26 to 30 million years, there's a `wave' of extinctions. But they withdrew that theory later. When you look over a longer period of time, there's no pattern to be found at all. Besides, the palaeologists weren't thinking of Planet X -- but of a twin Sun called Nemesis.

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Q: "NASA has photographed Planet X in 1983"

A: No, they haven’t. In 1983, the IRAS satellite spotted something unexplained that turned out to be a new type of very distant galaxy. But for lack of anything better, the press concluded that NASA had spotted a tenth planet.

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Q: "The Russians have photographed Planet X in their `Norlock’-project."

A: That’s a hoax. There’s no such thing as a secret project called Norlock. The hoax was set up by someone claiming to be an anonymous Russian scientist who had `finally decided to share this important information with the world.’ Yeah, sure.

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Q: "This is Planet X:"


A: Nope. It's Io, moon of Jupiter. The picture was taken by the Hubble Telescope in June 1997.

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Q: "This is Planet X:"


A: Nope. It's a hoax: the resolution of the planet differs from the resolution of the surrounding galaxy.

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Q: "This is Planet X:"


A: Nope. It's exactly what it looks like: a bad space photo with a vague dot in it, thousands of times too faint to be a nearby planet. It's a distant star, probably.

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Q: "Planet X is definitely closing in. You can tell by looking at the volcanic activity. Over the last few years, this has been increasing."

A: Total rubbish. Even if there were a huge Planet X heading our way, it wouldn’t affect our volcanoes. The gravitational effect of Planet X would be only a tiny fraction of the gravity of Jupiter. And that, in turn, is just a tiny fraction of the gravitational pull the Sun and the Moon exert on our planet every moment of the day.
Indeed, volcanic activity slightly increased over the years 1970-2000. But that may be coincidence, or, more likely, the result of more accurate equipment

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[pavlakos]

Good article, but the tenth planet was found more recently by Hubble, heres a link to NASA. Although they named it 'Xena' and it only has an orbit of 560 years, its still interesting.
Also, the article is just that, an article. It failed to give any evidence or to elaborate on its claims. Im not talking about where it debunked those dumb hoaxes either, that much is known. But, one main point is that a planet with an highly eliptical orbit, would not necessarily eventually fly off deep into space. Especially if at the opposite end of the path is another planet or heavenly body that keeps the gravitational pull even and thus stable. of course there is no way to know about something like that, but it is safe to assume that there is, in the sense that compared to how many bodies are out there it would be irrational to assume otherwise.
anyway, there is a Planet X, even if its not the famed Nibiru, so this article is void.

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/arc...leases/2004/14
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/...05-images.html
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hu..._20060410.html

[Liquidtruth]

No man, there is no tenth planet. There is no 9th planet. And actually, if they had kept Pluto as the ninth planet, we would be living in a 13-14 planet solar system right now. The fact of the matter is there are many Pluto sized objects in the Kuiper belt. None of which are the 10th planet that people have been talking about, i.e. Nibiru. Also, the article did not say that the planet would certainly fly off to space, it said its orbit would either become more like that of the other planets, or, it would fly off into space. It (the article) was full of evidence, perhaps you are upset because it did not link to sources? Well, that could indeed be problematic, though, it is not hard to copy/paste stuff into a search engine and bring up sources yourself.

So, the article still stands, still debunks Nibiru, still debunks everything everyone has said about it, and there is no tenth planet because there is no ninth planet.

Originally Posted by Kuiper Belt Wiki Entry

Pluto, a dwarf planet, is the largest known member of the Kuiper belt. Originally considered a planet, it is similar to many other objects of the Kuiper belt, and its orbital period is identical that of the KBOs known as "Plutinos".

From the article you posted...

Originally Posted by Hubble Site Link

Does this mean Sedna is not a planet?

Moon or no moon, Sedna is too small and its orbit too elliptical for it to be considered a planet. It has been gravitationally battered around the outer solar system like a tennis ball. It is a primordial body from the early solar system, and its odd appearance and behavior may yield clues to the early solar system.

From your last link...

Originally Posted by NASA - Hubble Finds 'Tenth Planet'

Finding that the largest known Kuiper Belt object is a virtual twin to Pluto may only further complicate the debate about whether to categorize the large icy worlds that populate the belt as planets. If Pluto were considered to be the minimum size for a planet, then Xena would fulfill this criterion, too. In time, the International Astronomical Union will designate the official name.

Note that your last two links are from 2005 and 2006 respectively.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14489259/

Personally, when all this was going down, I felt that Pluto should have retained its planet status, as well as those other objects becoming planets in the solar system as well. For the reasoning as to why they are not planets, Click Here.

As for Exit Mundi's sources... I am emailing them right now asking for some. If they respond, I will most certainly post the details here.

[blueend]

Originally Posted by Liquidtruth

No man, there is no tenth planet. There is no 9th planet. And actually, if they had kept Pluto as the ninth planet, we would be living in a 13-14 planet solar system right now. The fact of the matter is there are many Pluto sized objects in the Kuiper belt. None of which are the 10th planet that people have been talking about, i.e. Nibiru. Also, the article did not say that the planet would certainly fly off to space, it said its orbit would either become more like that of the other planets, or, it would fly off into space. It (the article) was full of evidence, perhaps you are upset because it did not link to sources? Well, that could indeed be problematic, though, it is not hard to copy/paste stuff into a search engine and bring up sources yourself.

So, the article still stands, still debunks Nibiru, still debunks everything everyone has said about it, and there is no tenth planet because there is no ninth planet.



From the article you posted...

From your last link...Note that your last two links are from 2005 and 2006 respectively.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14489259/

Personally, when all this was going down, I felt that Pluto should have retained its planet status, as well as those other objects becoming planets in the solar system as well. For the reasoning as to why they are not planets, Click Here.

As for Exit Mundi's sources... I am emailing them right now asking for some. If they respond, I will most certainly post the details here.

+rep for this excellent stuff.

[pavlakos]

eek...i gotta say youre right...but i still think its a good possibility that Nibirus out there. as for Nibiru being a god...WRONG! its is sometimes revered as a god, but is called the abode of the gods. either way...id rather nibiru not be real, but chances are it is. (in my head at least)

[Liquidtruth]

Man, everything I have been saying and showing you shows that Nibiru does not exist. If it did we would most certainly know about it due to its gravitational effects on other objects. It is really as simple as that, and Palmer made mention of that in the very first response to this thread.

Would it be cool if there was a rogue planet out their hell bent on our destruction? Well... Actually no. Believe me, there are many other ways this planet can go down the tubes. Exit Mundi is a good site for listing a whole bunch of possible (and some highly improbable) methods by which this world, or us, could come to an end.

[pavlakos]

yeah i know that, and im saying itd be better off if Nibiru was bull, but i still dont think it is. a main reason i still believe sitchin is because all the debunkers and critiques who argue against him claim to be experts and have phds in semitic languages. theres the problem. the reason why there is so much controversy on the sumerian lexicons and grammar is because sumerian is not a semitic language at all. in fact it is quite unique, although some words seem to have been adopted and altered. and if nibiru is real it is not hell bent on our destruction, people just associate it with the end of the world because its supposed to come back around in the 2012-2025 time period. if the inhabitants are hell bent on our destruction thats another story....