Ideas about humans... exceed all?

[remdog]

Originally Posted by trawepale

no you really have no clue what I'm talking about. as for echolocation, its primary uses are for hunting and navigation when visibility is poor. and typing is just an example don't over analyze it. I do know that animals communicative with each other and I'm not refuting that which it seems you think I am.

i know you are achknoledging the fact that they communicate, but i am stating where your argument fails is the fact that their form of communication is indeed complex, just like our own. i am not saying a dog could learn to speak human, but at the same time a human could not learn to speak dog. that is my opinon. i am sayin humans are not greater than any other species because of all the things animals can do that humans can not do. at the same time there are many things humans can do that animals can not. this is what makes us different species, each species has its own goals and its skills that are specifically benefical to thoose goals.

Originally Posted by klizzle

How do we even know we were even the first intelligent species to arise? According to that special on National Geographic, all obvious signs of human life (if we disappeared of the face of the earth) would vanish within ~1000 years. Have humans lasted long enough that archeologists 65 million years from now would be able to know we ever existed?


Just some food for thought, because in all likelihood we are the first.

i have much thought of this and the flaw i have with it is in my opinon we are clearly not the only intelligent species. it is clear to me that dogs, dolphins, chimps, lizards and pretty much any living organism is in fact intelligent.

[klizzle]

Originally Posted by remdog

i know you are achknoledging the fact that they communicate, but i am stating where your argument fails is the fact that their form of communication is indeed complex, just like our own. i am not saying a dog could learn to speak human, but at the same time a human could not learn to speak dog. that is my opinon. i am sayin humans are not greater than any other species because of all the things animals can do that humans can not do. at the same time there are many things humans can do that animals can not. this is what makes us different species, each species has its own goals and its skills that are specifically benefical to thoose goals.



i have much thought of this and the flaw i have with it is in my opinon we are clearly not the only intelligent species. it is clear to me that dogs, dolphins, chimps, lizards and pretty much any living organism is in fact intelligent.

I mean this in the sense of being able to establish a civilization and construct buildings, communicate, etc. I think it's very possible that during the age of dinosaurs intelligent species could have arisen and created civilizations before the end of the dinosaurs and we would be unable to distinguish it via fossil record. Perhaps a nuclear war caused the end of the dinosaurs instead of a comet, or perhaps this intelligent species created climate change that resulted in the death of dinosaurs. Would it even be possible to tell? Humans have only existed in a civilized manner for the last 10,000 years and if we cause our own demise in the next thousand that's only a blip on the radar for future intelligence to detect.

Unlikely, but possible?

[remdog]

Originally Posted by klizzle

I mean this in the sense of being able to establish a civilization and construct buildings, communicate, etc. I think it's very possible that during the age of dinosaurs intelligent species could have arisen and created civilizations before the end of the dinosaurs and we would be unable to distinguish it via fossil record. Perhaps a nuclear war caused the end of the dinosaurs instead of a comet, or perhaps this intelligent species created climate change that resulted in the death of dinosaurs. Would it even be possible to tell? Humans have only existed in a civilized manner for the last 10,000 years and if we cause our own demise in the next thousand that's only a blip on the radar for future intelligence to detect.

Unlikely, but possible?

very possible. if buldings crumble into dirt and sand identicle to that of just rock it would be virtully impossible to tell how intelligent a given species is based on fossils. but if nuclear war was the death of dinosaurs then we would detect changes in radiation levels in soil, kind of how we can not use radiation dating for anything after the 1940s since we invinted the atomic bomb and changed the radiation level in the soil and atmosphere

[jakeandbake]

i think we were placed here and nearly every thing in our culture is tied together.
all of our religions, movies, superstitions(sp?), and world leaders are all part of the same thing. nearly all cultures and beliefs tie into a lot of the same stuff, even confirm eachother while they contrast greatly.

Its nothing to fight about though, we have plenty of other things to worry about.

[bkadoctaj]

I'd say we'd be more complex than the Ideator but anything complex can be organized and taken in more simplistic pieces.

[Blunder5]

hey you know that guy Zecharia sitchin made his first book called "the 12th planet"

in it he traces the existing of humans all the way to the sumarians and ends with our being how it is today...

its pretty nice,, makes perfect sense

he is an archeologist and translated the ancient sumarian language....


I really reccoment all of you to listen to this book

http://mars-earth.com/sitchin.htm

[pavlakos]

very interesting. i agree with zecharia sitchin as well. the Anunaki made us!!! no seriously, they did.

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