the REAL problem is overpopulation

[wtfEver]

Originally Posted by Maitereya

^^ tell your grandchildren you lived it up, while they are stuck in a world with no resources and rampant disease.

Thats why i said.. do what we can to help...

I didn't think i needed to specify it was for future generations.

[TripleBla]

Well, the way I look at overpopulation ..

They make fossil fuels out of dinosaurs right?

Well, what else do you do with 5 billion dead bodies.. oil factory!

[DirtyPete]

Originally Posted by Maitereya

basically the population is sustainable, but we are too stupid to implement the sustainability.

QFT

[.ViciouS.]

Originally Posted by Maitereya

the technology is here to make the world a sustainable place and a place without rampant disease. the government is doing nothing to stop pollution and the energy problem, its basically letting the big corporations take control of the environment and the fate of earth.

Actually I think technology is playing a big part in the reason why life is so unsustainable and polluted. Technology comes at a price, which includes mass pollution, laziness (not to mention the weakening mind when everything can be done at the click of a button), and more. The agricultural movement is another part, which in most cases produces way more food then needed, causing population explosions in certain parts of the world.

I do assume though that one day the problem will probably fix itself, not to say that it will happen in a manner that we will all agree with. That's life for you.

Although, people need to stop being so transfixed on the end of the world. With that kind of mindset, it's just "plunder all we can while we're still alive." Yet life continues, and generations therefore after are left with the mess, usually taking on the same mindset of those before them. It's so easy to just continue this lifestyle, but so "impossible" to break out of the cycle. With the growing laziness and apathy of the world, if nothing happens soon then maybe, just maybe it might be too late. But I believe there is always hope, as long as humans can be considered an intelligent lifeform anyways.

[scoobydooby67]

Originally Posted by Maitereya

the technology is here to make the world a sustainable place and a place without rampant disease.

we need disease.

we need "genocides".

technology doesnt mean dick once there's no resources necessary for life left.

[wtfEver]

anything we do to the earth, she will recover..it could take billions of years, but she would.. and be able to sustain life again... in one way or another...

I doubt we could overpopulate the earth to the point of her destruction.... our OWN destruction, yeppers...u betcha'.

just my opinion.

For our own sake and safty we need to do what we can to keep our enviornment up to par for the living conditions we need.

[tokasmoka]

i think that nature is fully capable of handling human overpopulation. Like you said, "balance is important" and nature always has a way of balancing things out. Survival of the fittest until the population dies down. I think as long as we have the plants we'll manage.

[BlazinX1]

Originally Posted by Aceofbladez

All you have to do is take a look around. Google Earth is a great way to do this. A firm belief of mine is anything is moderation and balance is not bad. Even drugs/alcohol - used in moderation - are not bad. Balance is key. The Earth's population of Human Beings is way off balance, so much so that it is reaching the end of sustainability and plants, animals, and the atmosphere are suffering.

We wonder why there are food and water shortages. Global warming? How could that be? There are only 6 billion humans on earth - and that number is growing by the hour. It's really scary. Humans think the Earth is "ours". Like is was put here JUST for our pleasure and use. A viewpoint like that, to me, is just plain arrogant. Just because we evolved and can think for ourselves - which, by the way, is an AMAZING feat of nature, dont get me wrong - DOES NOT mean the earth is OURS to do with what we wish.

Back to the topic, until Humans realize just what we are doing to the Earth, and realize that we NEED to do something to curb the population explosion, it will most likely be too late. Too late for all the animals, plants, everything else that depends on the fragile balance that Nature has strived for millions of years to achieve.

You need to be a phramacist to dispense drugs, you need a license to drive a car and cut hair.

You need to get good grades to get into a good college
a good college is needed to get a good job.
Background checks are needed to be a cop,
you have to be elected to government jobs.

ANYONE CAN HAVE A BABY
Some people should not be allowed to have children, and there should def be a limit.

I'm sick of these families in poverty having a ton of kids. First off if they had less kids they could save more and get out of poverty, but instead they have a ton of unprotected sex and spawn more poverty stricken kids who thanks to their parents having 20 children will not be able to get out of poverty and the cycle will continues.

[seahag]

I'm sick of these families in poverty having a ton of kids. First off if they had less kids they could save more and get out of poverty, but instead they have a ton of unprotected sex and spawn more poverty stricken kids who thanks to their parents having 20 children will not be able to get out of poverty and the cycle will continues.

sick of it? you must be from a first world country with that sort of attitude, and internet.
and being from a first world country would allow you of all people to be more effective, and help change such problems. these are poor poor areas you are talking about. people who are birthed into poverty. from a young age these kids are working for the lowest of wages so you can sit on your ass and eat all those munchies. work is the keyword of these poverty stricken areas. 60% of of the food produced in 3rd world country's are exported.

the fact of the matter on these large families is these women are born working these extremely low wages just so they can have a meal weekly, sometimes. they dont go to school, they arent taught their language from books, and computers. these women are illiterate. they dont have a shelf of pamphlets telling them the dangers of meth, and coke, or let alone of safe sex, and how to avoid pregnancy. they have no access to protection. and maybe if your government, and family, and society wasnt so focused on our riches, and technology something would be done about it.

overpopulation wont cease to exist, and with that much more of us sitting on these computers, needing all this excess food for our daily meals, and such... this poverty will only get worse, the gap will only widen, and ignorant comments like yours will only increase.

[pavlakos]

Originally Posted by killachronic

Overpopulation....no chance. Did a research paper on it for argumentative writing. May be a problem for 3rd world poverty stricken areas....maybe. Something else will wipe us out before overpopulation. Too many factors involved. Also talked to some bio professors who were all skeptical of the chance of overpopulation.

i agree.

how about the govt wanting the population down to 500mill? how about global catastrophes/natural disasters; something like what hit the dinos is almost inevitable, and quite probable. heres another, humans killing eachother off like their doing right now, a possible world war 3? with the technology we have that would be quite deadly to the world. but then again that would fall into population control...

[redeyedfuk]

Yeah man the fuckin chinese are growing loads too. Theres too may of them and they always try and beat the rest at everything.

[pavlakos]

at least their doing something, the american people just go to work and chill, not many goals. the chinese are expanding all over the world, setting up businesses all over and moving to all different parts of the world. WITHOUT killing anybody.

[redeyedfuk]

True that but still man they say that the world will be dominated by the chinese in 100 years or so.

[L Rag]

Originally Posted by city4eva204

modern medicine has destroyed natural selection. this world of ours will not be able to support us for much longer. over population is a huge problem right now, not over crowding in places, but in general we have too large of a "footprint" to have population numbers this significant. we contribute nothing to this planets cycle of life, absolutely nothing. we only take and take and take. it is another belief of mine that the level of consciousness that we have is a curse, we are all afraid of death yet it is a natural balancing process. our societies are set up to rape the land, give nothing back in return, and to stay alive longer than u naturally can. everything is twisted so bad that something drastic will have to happen in order for things to balance out; unfortunately this might mean a drastic climate change and the end of us all, but earth has balanced itself before out and it most definitely will again

Modern medicine hasn't destroyed natural selection, because it's modern. Natural selection takes place over a loooong period of time.
We do contribute to the planets cycle of life, we plant trees..but yeah thats about it.
As you said, the earth has balanced itself out before.. but never from this much of a back step. So many more populations have become extinct, and they're still becoming extinct every day... theres so much pollution in the air, and so on... so I doubt it can recover from this.

[wtfEver]

Originally Posted by redeyedfuk

Yeah man the fuckin chinese are growing loads too. Theres too may of them and they always try and beat the rest at everything.