Proof for the Great Flood

[magg0t]

Lets say Carbon dating is wrong, and is off by millions of years, could this article mean a flood could of happened?

http://www.news24.com/News24/Technol...292908,00.html

[effektz]

I don't see anything in that article saying carbon dating is wrong, just that the dinosaurs didn't die by the oceans becoming acidic. And that's (I assume) a respectable scienfitif journal and they're talking in the billions of years, which any theist will tell you just isnt possible.

[Richi]

Why would we 'just say' carbon dating is wrong?

[Visine!]

Carbon dating is only accurate to about 100,000 years, there are other similar methods to determine older stuff though (Using vocanic rock i believe).

[notbakedenough]

Originally Posted by Richi

Why would we 'just say' carbon dating is wrong?

Good point.

Checkmate magg0t. lol

[mrblonde77]

Originally Posted by Richi

Why would we 'just say' carbon dating is wrong?

Why would we 'just say' a random guy died and came back to life? You can't reason with these people.

[Smokinscientist]

Well 95% of sea animals died and only 70% of land animals did (according to the article). So no, I don't think this proves the great flood.

Unless you argue that the flood unbalanced the sea salt content or something...

[Visine!]

Originally Posted by Smokinscientist

Well 95% of sea animals died and only 70% of land animals did (according to the article). So no, I don't think this proves the great flood.

Unless you argue that the flood unbalanced the sea salt content or something...

That would definitely unbalance the salt content of the sea, some fish can live in both fresh and salt, but most salt water fish cant. You ever tried having a salt water fish tank? Extremely hard to keep the salt content right, if the water evaporates just a little to much they die.

[Smokinscientist]

Originally Posted by Visine!

That would definitely unbalance the salt content of the sea, some fish can live in both fresh and salt, but most salt water fish cant. You ever tried having a salt water fish tank? Extremely hard to keep the salt content right, if the water evaporates just a little to much they die.

Yes, but I've never seen it used as an argument for the great floods. Actually, I might be the first to suggest such a theory. That creepy pope guy with love me!

But from a scientific standpoint, where does all that extra water come from Mr Wiseguy? huh?

[CosmicSerpent]

I think at some point early on in human history, there was very likely some type of great flood that killed a large percentage of the population and caused a lot of destruction. Not necessarily on a global scale, but at least in the Middle East and/or Mesopotamia. There are stories about it in the mythology of several separate civilizations, and although that isn't hard proof, it certainly makes you wonder. That doesn't mean there was a real man named Noah with a giant ark full of animals who survived it all, but I'm a firm believer that a large portion of mythological and Biblical stories have some basis in real history. People over the years inserted their own hero figures and divine intervention to turn it into the exaggerations we hear today.

No, I'm not a Christian. It's the same way I view Jesus.... sure there very well may have been a minor Jewish leader by the name of Yeshua in Israel sometime between 50 BC and 50 AD. He didn't walk on water, he wasn't born of a virgin, and he wasn't the son of God.... but enough people remembered his existence or had at least heard of him that he inspired a few books that make up the New Testament. They were written quite some time later, so the authors hadn't met him, and therefore most of the details of his life were fabricated. It isn't that far fetched.

I'm not saying any of this is true, I'm just saying it's the kind of thing that will probably never be proven definitively one way or another unless someone can go back in time and see the past.

[Visine!]

Originally Posted by Smokinscientist

Yes, but I've never seen it used as an argument for the great floods. Actually, I might be the first to suggest such a theory. That creepy pope guy with love me!

But from a scientific standpoint, where does all that extra water come from Mr Wiseguy? huh?

I've heard one theory that at one point the the earth's atmosphere had a water vapor layer and that some global disaster or climate change or something destroyed it making it come down to the ground. And if both the polar ice caps melted completely it could just about cover the earth with water... There IS enough water on earth to pretty much cover up all land if certain events took place.

[Smokinscientist]

Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent

I think at some point early on in human history, there was very likely some type of great flood that killed a large percentage of the population and caused a lot of destruction. Not necessarily on a global scale, but at least in the Middle East and/or Mesopotamia. There are stories about it in the mythology of several separate civilizations, and although that isn't hard proof, it certainly makes you wonder. That doesn't mean there was a real man named Noah with a giant ark full of animals who survived it all, but I'm a firm believer that a large portion of mythological and Biblical stories have some basis in real history. People over the years inserted their own hero figures and divine intervention to turn it into the exaggerations we hear today.

No, I'm not a Christian. It's the same way I view Jesus.... sure there very well may have been a minor Jewish leader by the name of Yeshua in Israel sometime between 50 BC and 50 AD. He didn't walk on water, he wasn't born of a virgin, and he wasn't the son of God.... but enough people remembered his existence or had at least heard of him that he inspired a few books that make up the New Testament. They were written quite some time later, so the authors hadn't met him, and therefore most of the details of his life were fabricated. It isn't that far fetched.

I'm not saying any of this is true, I'm just saying it's the kind of thing that will probably never be proven definitively one way or another unless someone can go back in time and see the past.

Man, that's probably the closest thing to my personal view I've heard of, yet.

You can find great flood stories in more than one religion. And scattered across the globe. Floods are a part nature and drastic changes in landscape and entire cities were swept away. Adding a divine cause was only natural in prehistoric time. In a "broken telephone" way, through many generations, exaggerated and skewed stories surfaced.

[HighGrowMan]

Originally Posted by Smokinscientist

Yes, but I've never seen it used as an argument for the great floods. Actually, I might be the first to suggest such a theory. That creepy pope guy with love me!

But from a scientific standpoint, where does all that extra water come from Mr Wiseguy? huh?

If a comet hit the ocean you would have water miles high at the coastal regoins near by. You would also have a lot of evaporated water that would fall as acid for a while. And the sun would most certainly be blocked out by the ash, for at least 40 days.

[Maitereya]

lets say science is wrong, jesus was a zombie and dinosaurs were alive 100 years ago. so the only thing that could have happened is jesus infected the dinosaurs, and they ate eachother to extinction convinently before anyone.... or!?!?!?!

just do what your told like a good little boy.

[Smokinscientist]

Originally Posted by Maitereya

lets say science is wrong, jesus was a zombie and dinosaurs were alive 100 years ago. so the only thing that could have happened is jesus infected the dinosaurs, and they ate eachother to extinction convinently before anyone.... or!?!?!?!

just do what your told like a good little boy.

I believe Jesus was an avid dinosaur hunter before starting his ministry.