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Old 03-22-2008, 05:33 PM
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I actually think Nuclear is our smartest option as a non-carbon fuel source.
Actually, we have about 100 years or so left of nuclear energy (in its current form, of course). We will run out of uranium isotoppes by then.


There are currently "small scale" fusion reactors which are stating to take shape. I believe in around 2025 the first fusion reaction will be up (i think its Geneva, but don't quote me on that one). This might be the breakthrough we need since all that is needed as a resource is heavy water and lithium, in the milligram, or gram scale.

A bucket of water and a pebble would have enough energy to rival our current nuclear reactors. and we will never run out of rocks and water (it can be the most polluted water you can find).
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Actually, we have about 100 years or so left of nuclear energy (in its current form, of course). We will run out of uranium isotoppes by then.


There are currently "small scale" fusion reactors which are stating to take shape. I believe in around 2025 the first fusion reaction will be up (i think its Geneva, but don't quote me on that one). This might be the breakthrough we need since all that is needed as a resource is heavy water and lithium, in the milligram, or gram scale.

A bucket of water and a pebble would have enough energy to rival our current nuclear reactors. and we will never run out of rocks and water (it can be the most polluted water you can find).
A hundred years is an infinite amount of time when referring to technological advances.

A hundred years ago man was still shitting in a shack in the yard. And now look at the technology available. Can you imagine what technology will be available in a hundred years from now.

I beleive nuclear is the way to go, and with technological advances in the science will make it last well beyond 100 years. I also think they will eventually look towards mining planets and space. I also think that will start in the near future, say 25 years.
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A hundred years is an infinite amount of time when referring to technological advances.

A hundred years ago man was still shitting in a shack in the yard. And now look at the technology available. Can you imagine what technology will be available in a hundred years from now.

I beleive nuclear is the way to go, and with technological advances in the science will make it last well beyond 100 years. I also think they will eventually look towards mining planets and space. I also think that will start in the near future, say 25 years.
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A bucket of water and a pebble would have enough energy to rival our current nuclear reactors. and we will never run out of rocks and water (it can be the most polluted water you can find).
alright i dont really know much about science but how the hell does that work? maybe i misunderstand?
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alright i dont really know much about science but how the hell does that work? maybe i misunderstand?
E = m*c^2

Say we have 1 gallon of water in a bucket. The water weighs approximately 3.6 kg so m = 3.6 kg. c is the speed of light and c = 300,000,000 meters/second. The total energy the mass contains is 3.6*300,000,000^2 = 1,080,000,000 kg*m^2/s^2 = 1,080,000,000 Joules.


The largest current container ship in the world has a mass of m=
156,907,000 kg and a top speed of v=13.1 m/s. A rough estimate of the kinetic energy of the ship is E = 0.5*m*v^2 = 13,463,405,135 Joules.


1 gallon of water at rest:
1,080,000,000 Joules
1 container ship at top speed: 13,463,405,135 Joules

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E = m*c^2

Say we have 1 gallon of water in a bucket. The water weighs approximately 3.6 kg so m = 3.6 kg. c is the speed of light and c = 300,000,000 meters/second. The total energy the mass contains is 3.6*300,000,000 = 1,080,000,000 kg*m^2/s^2 = 1,080,000,000 Joules.


The largest current container ship in the world has a mass of m=
156,907,000 kg and a top speed of v=13.1 m/s. A rough estimate of the kinetic energy of the ship is E = 0.5*m*v^2 = 13,463,405,135 Joules.


1 gallon of water at rest:
1,080,000,000 Joules
1 container ship at top speed: 13,463,405,135 Joules
If we're going to have that kind of efficiency in harvesting energy than we need to fund the hell out of science.
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If we're going to have that kind of efficiency in harvesting energy than we need to fund the hell out of science.
That would seem an obvious solution, but those in charge would rather desperately throw money at the ever-depleting oil supplies.
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If we're going to have that kind of efficiency in harvesting energy than we need to fund the hell out of science.
Oh, believe me... Science will have its funding.
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