TT's theory of end of "space"

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by GolgiApparatus

Also impossible.

The universe will end like this:

Because the universe is a constantly expanding force, it will eventually cross the line where its so large that the gravity containing it cannot sustain itself. Then, the entire universe will instantly come apart, where slowly slowly, black holes will suck everything up (i.e. join together into one massive part) into all the universes matter is compressed to something smaller then an atom. Then, the gravity will expand faster then the "ball" causing a massive explosion of all the matter kept inside this "ball" outward, thus starting the cycle again. And yes, the universe and all laws as we know it is just an endless cycle. Study physics sometime

Yes, you know the end of something that you don't understand 70% of at best. Dark energy... oh, and I guess dark matter as well.

Study my posts sometime.

[Zylark]

Gotta go with bkadoctaj here. There are a few hypothesis regarding how the universe will end, but nothing is quite certain yet. The "Big Crunch" hypothesis seems rather unlikely though, seeing as the universe is expanding exponentially. The "Big Rip" seems more likely. That is, the universe will peter out to a big cold nothing.

But again, that is not a certainty as of yet. Still mucho research to be done

[GolgiApparatus]

Not that i know but thats the established theory yes.

im not saying iknow alot about it, im just saying i watch the history channel alot hehe

[mrblonde77]

Originally Posted by blackdahlia515

What if each black hole leads to/is a galaxy or something like that and we're just on the inside/on the other side of one?

The term black hole is really a misnomer. It's not a hole. It's an object with mass that just so happens to have a fuckton of gravity (I know I'm objectifying gravity :\ sorry), so much that not even light can "jump" off the object. It just gets absorbed into it. Think of it like a ball of playdough, and you throw some crumbs at it and they get stuck in the playdough and can't fall off / get out of the playdough. What you're describing sounds more like a wormhole or something heh.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by GolgiApparatus

Not that i know but thats the established theory yes.

im not saying iknow alot about it, im just saying i watch the history channel alot hehe

That is history, I suppose.

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by mrblonde77

The term black hole is really a misnomer. It's not a hole. It's an object with mass that just so happens to have a fuckton of gravity (I know I'm objectifying gravity :\ sorry), so much that not even light can "jump" off the object. It just gets absorbed into it. Think of it like a ball of playdough, and you throw some crumbs at it and they get stuck in the playdough and can't fall off / get out of the playdough. What you're describing sounds more like a wormhole or something heh.

Would it theoretically be possible that the light is not absorbed, but rather bent "centripetally"? In other words, does light become invisible when bent by such intense mass?

[Liquidtruth]

That would be awesome, time would slow and I would maybe have enough time to get my nanites functioning before the world as we know it was crushed into insignificances to become the god of this universe!!11!!!1!!one!!1!one!!1!

[Smokinscientist]

Hmmmm, there are alot of misconceptions about black holes here.

You can't simply wikipedia it either. Modern physicists are way to pretentious to tell the truth.

Black holes are not even remotely proven. Alot, and I mean ALOT is assumed and guestimated when even trying to model a black hole. It is entirely conceptual and no "real" physics is ever involved here.

[SourDieselChick]

Originally Posted by TokingToker

Lets say that earth is in the middle of space, and were looking at space like a picture infront of us. We have 2 gigantic black holes to the left and right, or even 4 black holes from left, right, up and down. Everything is being slowly sucked in, now one would think we would be instantly sucked in. But what if these black holes were so far apart that its only pulling slowly. Since we have gravity galaxies will be pulled altogether into a black hole.

Crazy in'nit?

that is a crazy thought man. i'm always thinking of shit like this.

[negligent]

Originally Posted by TokingToker

Yeah you're right, thats why it's a theory.

no, thats why its a hypothesis, theory's are backed by fact and proof, hypothesis are idea's

[Rahzizzle]

Well Math proves that

1) Space, not just the distances between objects is expanding with an increasing acceleration

2) Mass IS Energy, just in a different form.
I have once tripped out so hard that I saw Energy Converted to Mass By Fission!!

3) There are more stars in the sky than Grains of Sand on all of the beaches in the World.

[mrblonde77]

Originally Posted by bkadoctaj

Would it theoretically be possible that the light is not absorbed, but rather bent "centripetally"? In other words, does light become invisible when bent by such intense mass?

The mass isn't intense. It's the density and gravity of the object are intense. The gravity is so intense it never stops increases the density. Anything that lands on the black "hole" never comes back off it. I would say the light becomes recycled in the mass of the blackhole, to later be re-recycled when the blackhole explodes from having such a high density. I think some black holes do explode, someone correct me if I'm wrong though. To me it woudl make sense that they would explode (or would it be implosion?) from having such a high degree of gravity.

I don't really understand what you're saying about light either. Are you trying to say that hte light doesn't actually "crash" into the black hole but rather continues to travel around it, as if it's orbiting the blackhole? If so, some light DOES orbit it. but if you get too close to the blackhole then you totally succumb to it's gravitational force, crash into it, and become one with the blackhole. Re-read my playdough analogy I think it was pretty good.

[Rotawee]

Originally Posted by Rahzizzle

Well Math proves that

1) Space, not just the distances between objects is expanding with an increasing acceleration
3) There are more stars in the sky than Grains of Sand on all of the beaches in the World.

Space is nothing. Nothing cannot expand.
And I really hate this statement (3). It cannot be proven. I like to fight it by saying there are only about 6000 stars in our sky on a nice night and more grains of sand than that in my hand (topic usually comes up on a beach naturally) And when they say universe I remind them about sand dunes, deserts, mountains, the bottom of the ocean, etc etc. I'm a firm believer that there really isn't more stars in the universe than grains of sand on our planet.

[Gumbo]

Originally Posted by Rotawee

Space is nothing. Nothing cannot expand.
And I really hate this statement (3). It cannot be proven. I like to fight it by saying there are only about 6000 stars in our sky on a nice night and more grains of sand than that in my hand (topic usually comes up on a beach naturally) And when they say universe I remind them about sand dunes, deserts, mountains, the bottom of the ocean, etc etc. I'm a firm believer that there really isn't more stars in the universe than grains of sand on our planet.

Do you really believe that you can see the entire universe from your one point of view on earth???

[AlphaQ]

Originally Posted by Rotawee

Space is nothing. Nothing cannot expand.
And I really hate this statement (3). It cannot be proven. I like to fight it by saying there are only about 6000 stars in our sky on a nice night and more grains of sand than that in my hand (topic usually comes up on a beach naturally) And when they say universe I remind them about sand dunes, deserts, mountains, the bottom of the ocean, etc etc. I'm a firm believer that there really isn't more stars in the universe than grains of sand on our planet.

Next time you are outside during a full moon on a clear night, observe the size of the moon when it is overhead. Now look at a small region in the sky that is 1/10 of the size of the moon. You see nothing, not a single star in that region.


Now call up your friend Hubble Telescope, he is watching that same 1/10 section of the sky also. This is what he sees:








In that tiny region of the sky, 1/10 the size of the moon, there are about 10,000 galaxies. The average galaxy has about 150,000,000,000 stars. The entire sky is about 12,000,000 times larger than 1/10 the size of the moon. So a rough estimate of the number of stars in the observable universe is...

10,000*150,000,000,000*12,000,000 = 18,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars