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What does the world really look like?

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I have been thinking about this. Human can see stuff in a certain way and that's how we think the world looks like but some animals can see the world in a entirely different way, like ultraviolet vision, and that's how they think the world looks like. What does the world really look like?

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universally? ... who knows

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My idea is that it doesn't look like anything. It is just energy moving around and our brains perceive this energy with visions.

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My idea is that it doesn't look like anything. It is just energy moving around and our brains perceive this energy with visions.


That's a very interesting look on it. :)

Aside from the fact we'll probably never know, who's to say that it isn't exactly what we see? My other 4 senses verify that my sight is correct in what it sees. Unless were all in the Matrix.

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My thought is either invisible pure white, maybe even solid black. However, our universe acts different when there is an observer, so their can't exist an objective sight. Ultimately the world really just looks like how you see it, there really exists 7 billion different worlds each slightly different. :bongin:

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It doesn't look different we just can't see some things

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It doesn't look different we just can't see some things

Yeah this. Unless somehow energy/matter can exist independent of our three(four?)-dimensional perception

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how it looks, or how it appears?

Because it looks the same to anything perceiving any form of light... light bounces and hits a receiver... doesnt really matter what light it is, even infrared still makes the same shapes, just different appearance of the filling and such... Atleast to the spectrum of light we know to exist.... But if there are other forms of light i would be included to assume they also bounce off an object and hit a receiver so things can see lol

what about bats though, using sound.... i wonder if it draws them a nice picture or if its just rough shapes so they can avoid slamming into walls and shit

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Well as far as illumination and color, neither exists in the external world. Our mind fills in these colors based upon specific frequencies of electromagnetic waves picked up from the outside.

This world that we perceive is extremely illusory to what's actually truly there.. I'm not even sure words can describe what's really out there.. there is no pitch black or complete pure white because both are attributes of color.. it's very strange to think about lol

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Well as far as illumination and color, neither exists in the external world. Our mind fills in these colors based upon specific frequencies of electromagnetic waves picked up from the outside.

This world that we perceive is extremely illusory to what's actually truly there.. I'm not even sure words can describe what's really out there.. there is no pitch black or complete pure white because both are attributes of color.. it's very strange to think about lol


Well, the colors are mind made, but the different wave lengths of light aren't.

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Well, the colors are mind made, but the different wave lengths of light aren't.



Well according to the double slit experiment in quantum mechanics the very act of observing photons makes light collapse from a superposition of possibilities into a single photon.. so our very consciousness and awareness itself creates these definite measurable bits to be then processed by our brain to be filled in with light and color... A very vicious cycle lol

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Our ways of 'measuring' reality may be different, but the actual reality that is being measured so far remains constant for everything that exists. When a dog chases a mailman, and a cat watches through the window of a nearby house, they all have to follow rules such as physics and gravity.

There are still more things that we haven't been able to even perceive yet, but until something tells us that the universe can say 'fuck reality', I will stick to this idea :P

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Well according to the double slit experiment in quantum mechanics the very act of observing photons makes light collapse from a superposition of possibilities into a single photon.. so our very consciousness and awareness itself creates these definite measurable bits to be then processed by our brain to be filled in with light and color... A very vicious cycle lol


The universe created observation, therefore it is part of reality

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The universe created observation, therefore it is part of reality



I'm pretty sure the double slit experiment is telling us the exact opposite, that awareness itself creates reality... That awareness must've existed before reality ever did.

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I'm pretty sure the double slit experiment is telling us the exact opposite, that awareness itself creates reality... That awareness must've existed before reality ever did.


Awareness is a result of the universe..... everything that exists, is part of the universe by definition

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Awareness is a result of the universe.....


How do you know this?


If observing matter makes it collapse from a state of superimposed wave possibilities to a definite solid state, in what state was the universe in before any lifeforms ever came to exist to observe any of it?

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universe = everything that exists

if it exists, its part of the universe

im not sure how much more simple i can make that

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It's definitely alot more colorful than we perceive it, as there are lots of colors we cant see.

I'd like to see what it's like through the eyes of a mantis shrimp, they can see things on the hyperspectral, and polarized level.

Birds can see magnetic fields and polarized light..

We just have HD vision, lol.

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universe = everything that exists

if it exists, its part of the universe

im not sure how much more simple i can make that


But earlier you were seemingly claiming that the universe brought awareness/consciousness to being, while science seems to be saying that awareness and consciousness itself brings about and creates physical reality..


If observation collapses reality into a definite state, in what state did the universe exist in when there were no lifeforms here? What would reality have actually 'looked' like?




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