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How do Atoms Work on Everything?

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Okay so I'm doing some bio study, and in general I've always thought about this, but how is it that atoms have the effect they do on everything. For example, I'm doing some revision of DNA and stuff,

DNA is basically a repeating structure of nitrogen, carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and phosphorus. How is it that these repeating structures, if we go down to the lowest level... these arrangement of protons, neutrons and electrons make up direct cells to do what they do, and to create a living, functioning entity such as us?

How is it that THC, also just a structure of protons, neutrons and electrons have the effect they do. Or any other substance for that matter?

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Electromagnetism.
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Fundamental physical laws and great spans of time.

Give it a try: John Conway's Game of Life

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Vibrational frequencies.

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Electromagnetism.



This.

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mostly electromagnetism- also include the other intermolecular forces (they're not all the same exact thing)

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Electromagnetism.


This. I think strong and week forces may also be involved. Because the question you're asking is how does a particle arrange its self in three dimensional space. Well, we've learned that these particles have certain properties like charge. These charges are electromagnetic fields emitting from the particle which will act on other particles fields. Therefor resistance keeps particles apart, and attraction brings particles closer together (in the case of an electron it keeps it spinning around the nucleus. Any one know why an electron doesn't crash into the nucleus? Does it have too much energy?)

This question is about physics. You're project is on biology though, DNA is an arbitrary code used to encode biological information. What DNA are you revising? any model organisms?

Edited by jomo, 02 May 2012 - 09:50 PM.

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Isn't it crazy how electrons and protons somehow come together and create living, breathing, replicating cells? ..from just bits of orbiting electrons, lifeless inorganic bits of compressed energy create such amazing structures that are alive and self sustain themselves..

Who/whatever designed all of this had to be one wise mofacka :smoke:

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This. I think strong and week forces may also be involved. Because the question you're asking is how does a particle arrange its self in three dimensional space. Well, we've learned that these particles have certain properties like charge. These charges are electromagnetic fields emitting from the particle which will act on other particles fields. Therefor resistance keeps particles apart, and attraction brings particles closer together (in the case of an electron it keeps it spinning around the nucleus. Any one know why an electron doesn't crash into the nucleus? Does it have too much energy?)

This question is about physics. You're project is on biology though, DNA is an arbitrary code used to encode biological information. What DNA are you revising? any model organisms?

I don't think the strong force is that involved. It's mainly involved in keeping the nucleus of the atom together and has a very short range. Now, I would say that the weak force can be involved due to the fact that the decay of radioactive particles can potentially cause cancer.
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Who/whatever designed all of this had to be one wise mofacka :smoke:

Who says that there was a designer?
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Who says that there was a designer?



Common sense.. lol



I don't have to see a manufacture assemble a Ferrari first hand to know that this is a product of intended design rather than something that formed through natural causes..

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Who says that there was a designer?


If I said there was a designer, and you said there wasn't, I'd say we'd both be right, I'd be right, you'd be right, and neither of us would be right, at the same time.

There are no current answers.

And I'm not talking about a 'religious god' designer, either

I even asked a girl one time after a terribly lack luster blow job, "Don't you take any pride in doing it?" She said "No. Why would I? I just feel like a whore."

And many many women have those same feelings. If they were good at sex they wouldn't be proud they would be embarrassed.

It could be the women in my area though. Where I live is in the south and 9/10 of them are white, repressed, and christian.


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If I said there was a designer, and you said there wasn't, I'd say we'd both be right, I'd be right, you'd be right, and neither of us would be right, at the same time.

There are no current answers.

And I'm not talking about a 'religious god' designer, either



Well I think there are definitely ways of testing this.. we determine whether things are designed or formed naturally on a daily basis in the blink of an eye, it's almost like a pre-programmed feature in the human brain that we were meant to have and use.

There are definitely ways of measuring whether intelligence was involved or not.

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Who says that there was a designer?


Nobody, but I am 100% sure there is one.

It isn't God either.

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Well I think there are definitely ways of testing this.. we determine whether things are designed or formed naturally on a daily basis in the blink of an eye, it's almost like a pre-programmed feature in the human brain that we were meant to have and use.

There are definitely ways of measuring whether intelligence was involved or not.


If such a test could be devised then you wouldn't be having this dispute. It would be a fact like say, evolution.



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If such a test could be devised then you wouldn't be having this dispute. It would be a fact like say, evolution.


Umm ever heard of the SETI space program?


It's a space program that's whole main purpose is to differ random space noise from encoded messages from intelligent life.

If we can't devise a way to tell the difference between something being designed and something that naturally occurs, wouldn't you say that the SETI space program would be a bit of a waste over the past x amount of years..? lol

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It's definitely either magic or hydrogen bonding.

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Common sense.. lol



I don't have to see a manufacture assemble a Ferrari first hand to know that this is a product of intended design rather than something that formed through natural causes..

Oh, it's this argument again. Boring. Sorry, but the universe doesn't bear any real resemblance to any human artifact, so one can't infer that it was designed the way one can infer design from something like a car or a computer. Also, common sense would lead one to believe that the sun revolves around the earth, but that's wrong, so common sense is not a rational reason for believing something.
"The scientist does not study nature because it is useful to do so. He studies it because he takes pleasure in it, and he takes pleasure in it because it is beautiful." - Henri Poincaré

"To those who do not know mathematics it is difficult to get across a real feeling as to the beauty, the deepest beauty, of nature. If you want to learn about nature, to appreciate nature, it is necessary to understand the language that she speaks in." - Richard P. Feynman

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If I said there was a designer, and you said there wasn't, I'd say we'd both be right, I'd be right, you'd be right, and neither of us would be right, at the same time.

There are no current answers.

And I'm not talking about a 'religious god' designer, either

It wouldn't be possible for either of us to be right. Either there is a designer or their isn't. It's a binary option.

Edit: It would be possible for both of us to be wrong if there are multiple designers, but either the universe was designed or it wasn't. Both and neither are invalid options.

Edited by stonedphysicist, 04 May 2012 - 01:23 AM.

"The scientist does not study nature because it is useful to do so. He studies it because he takes pleasure in it, and he takes pleasure in it because it is beautiful." - Henri Poincaré

"To those who do not know mathematics it is difficult to get across a real feeling as to the beauty, the deepest beauty, of nature. If you want to learn about nature, to appreciate nature, it is necessary to understand the language that she speaks in." - Richard P. Feynman




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