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Old 01-04-2006, 10:04 AM
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schwagg: its problems and the rememedies of growing

Almost everyone here on the forum is an advocate and regular smoker of what is known as chronic, dank, diggity dank, or some other extremely high grade weed (usually, after these slangs are thrown around, if it is still of higher quality, the poster will actually post the strain, almost always because he grew it himself).

Now, while I have smoked chronic on occassion, I have never purchased even an eighth of the stuff because first and foremost, chronic tends to last an extremely long time and while the high is pleasant, I'm almost positive most strains that are dubbed as chronic or dank have a small amount of sativa influence. This would contribute to the fact that the high i have on chronic rarely follows by extreme drowsiness, instead I find myself suffering from insomnia. This is not a bad thing if you are looking for an extreme mind stimulator.

Here it goes: I admit it, the only stuff I smoke regularly is schwagg. This is mainly due to the fact that I like spending 20 bucks on .45 oz of weed rather than 50 bucks on 2.5 grams of chronic. Plus I get to keep the seeds, which has its benefits.

I figure that the strain that schwagg is lies somewhere in the indica strain and is bad for many reasons:

1. It's grown improperly most likely, receiving only the bare nutrients it needs to survive to maturity.
2. It's dried improperly. I've noticed that schwagg is almost always brown (though I've seen very green schwagg as well), this is due mainly to the fact that it was dried and cured outdoors with no protection from uv radiation and heat.
3. It's seeded. This indicates one of two things: Males were not taken care of beforehand OR its hermaphroditic. The latter is probably false due to the fact that I have never found male bananas in my weed.
4. It's packaged badly. This is perhaps the biggest reason why it sucks. While schwagg is already of only mid quality when it is finally ready to be shipped across the border, it is comrpessed for travel and secrecy reasons, thus it being named "brick." Most of the thc capillate stalks have burst and lie somewhere in the atmosphere of mexico rather than on the weed.

Now, based on these above probable assumptions, one can assume that the fertile seeds, which in schwagg, are abundant, grown under optimal conditions, haravested and dried properly, unfertilized, and packaged properly would put schwagg up closer to mids in quality. This is of course, an assumption, and cannot be proven unless someone has had a successful harvest with schwagg seeds and can tell me what the quality is like.

I have no problems with schwagg, but it is in my opinion that while I have a great deal of study put into weed, I have yet to become what is generally termed, a "connoseur," and this is due to my lack of general experience with a few things: growing, hash making, and vaporization using the highest quality strains I can get my grubby hands on. Right now I can barely call myself a "stoner" all things considered, but I think that an interest in anything truly worthwhile will always yield its results in either a good (successful harvest) or bad (getting caught by the police) results. Needless to say I have so far determined that the risks are worth the reward.

Anyways, thoughts?
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Old 01-04-2006, 11:32 AM
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fuck schwag man....smoke good weed for a week or so then come back
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Go for it dude, I like regs too. Gets me high as hell and a different kind of high.
 
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My thoughts are that you need to read up a little more or I need to be able to understand you better. These two comments make me a bit confused. “I'm almost positive most strains that are dubbed as chronic or dank have a small amount of sativa influence.” And “I figure that the strain that schwagg is lies somewhere in the indica strain and is bad for many reasons…” They seem to be contradictory.

The strain of marijuana is the actual name, AK47, blueberry, etc… All strains of marijuana are either Sativa or Indica or a mix of the two, be it dank or schwag. Sativa, Indica, and S/I mix are the plant type. (If you already knew this, I apologize your method of explaining led me to believe that you were unaware.)

I am not connoisseur either. I have had northern lights, blueberry, commercial grade hydro and some cross bread yummies. The rest have been mids or an unnamed bag of KB. My education started here on Grass City and is only growing.

I can’t make any comments on growing or cultivating marijuana but I have a very strong feeling that the technique has everything to do with what is considered schwag (compression process killing the resin glands). I've read that a lot of schwag comes out of Mexico which would be mostly sativa by default, but I've seen other schwag from around the US and it could be either indica or sativa...

I think whatever your income level, responsibilities in life, and/ environment affords you the ability to buy whatever bud you have. I have no intention of smoking schwag, nor do I or would I judge anyone for doing so. My choice has everything to do with taste, tolerance level, and the different high you get from bag to bag and nothing at all to do with what people on this board are doing. I appreciate all the pictures that get posted on GC. Looking at bud is a favorite past time. IMO if you are smoking schwag you are paying just as much as you would for mids. Schwag is less potent, so mids are going to go a longer distance for you leveling out how much you are paying as opposed to how much of it you smoke.

I think you should branch out and enjoy more of a variety of weed. It can only enrich your life and take nothing away from it.
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Im with you man! my friends will blow 25$ on high quality bud and get high for one night, while me spending the same amount ill get high the whole week.

Also, people saying its better high is bogus, its either the schwagg is a different strain from their dank because the tetrohydracannibinol is not any different from schwagg than dank if you think about it. THC is THC!!! there are just higher and lower concentrations
 
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Also, people saying its better high is bogus, its either the schwagg is a different strain from their dank because the tetrohydracannibinol is not any different from schwagg than dank if you think about it. THC is THC!!! there are just higher and lower concentrations
maybe its bc im blazed off some hash and chronic i picked up last night or something but i dont even kno how to respond to that comment besides...wow...
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Im with you man! my friends will blow 25$ on high quality bud and get high for one night, while me spending the same amount ill get high the whole week.

Also, people saying its better high is bogus, its either the schwagg is a different strain from their dank because the tetrohydracannibinol is not any different from schwagg than dank if you think about it. THC is THC!!! there are just higher and lower concentrations
...what? dude ur sayin if u buy ur bag of brown/ugly and smoke one bowl ull be as high as me if i smoke a bowl of green/good nug? wrong..
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Also, people saying its better high is bogus, its either the schwagg is a different strain from their dank because the tetrohydracannibinol is not any different from schwagg than dank if you think about it. THC is THC!!! there are just higher and lower concentrations
I disagree with most of this statement. I still love ya, but what you said isn't entirely true. Schwag IS weed that has been compressed into bricks to be distributed across the world/U.S./ wherever. When you get your schwag it will probably be in a bag just like any other weed, but you will notice that the buds are flat and dull in color due to their transportation method. Compressing weed into bricks does in fact kill resin glands which will give you less tetrohydracannibinol per bud for your buck. So while THC is THC, the amount you get in a bag of schwag is lower. So buying a 1/8 of mids unofficially can contain the same amount of THC in 1/4 of schwag. Just know that a bag of schwag will never contain as much THC as the same size bag of mids or better. (that's why it's schwag...)
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I never said that schwagg is the same as dank, the only differences is the thc concentrations in both.

I still dont understand what you all are disagreeing on, the thc in dank is the same thc in schwagg just different concentrations..
 
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most schwag is grown in mexico and is called dirt weed,its brown and flat from drying in piles outside..its to make a buck and thats it...
You will not get just as high as to smoking top strains...
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and the only reason why u dont get as high is because the schwagg contains less THC.

Im sure if u spent 25$ and bought some dank and spent 25$ on schwagg which would last longer? schwagg!
 
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If you decide to grow your own bud and look at seed companies their seeds will have varying THC levels. Some have 8%, some have 13%, and some have 19%. They also tell you that THC percentage does NOT mean that the bud will be stronger or more potent.

This entire thread is silly. Shwag is indica so it sucks? Chronic is sativa so it rocks? Just stop. Have you ever even seen a Chronic plant? If you ever get the chance to, you'll see it has stubby fat leaves. That strain is predominantly indica. And that's only if you find it. If someone says they got some Chronic they're probably full of shit. People need to stop putting so much emphasis on this stupid name game that comes with strains and whatnot. Just buy some good weed from a dealer you trust.

And don't even try to play Geneticist with these plants. Without a physical example consisting of the entire plant, you'll never know much about the bud you're smoking. Don't even try.
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Im sure if u spent 25$ and bought some dank and spent 25$ on schwagg which would last longer? schwagg!
Please elaborate. Its futile to keep discussing this but I really want to know how this is possible since better weed has a higher consentration of thc? It seems your logic is backward. I not saying you shouldn't buy schwag or that schwag is bad. Not even close...its just that, well, your statement is incorrect.
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I don't see where the big debate is. He wants to take seeds from poorly grown weed and grow a better crop from it. Why is everyone trying to tell him to just buy chronic when he doesn't want it?

If you grow it right it will look better, taste better, and get you higher. Go for it dude.
 
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oh well i think im gonna blow 100$ on a dank quarter since i cant get my ounce of schwag for 60
 
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