Bad Trips

phenomenaltrust · #1 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 06:48 AM

I would like to talk to you guys about a problem I have been having for the past couple of months. I am in no way anti-marijuana or anything like that, just getting it out there now just in case some people don't understand where I am coming from.

I have been smoking for since about 8th grade, and I am now going to be a sophomore in college. Last semester I smoked almost everyday consistently without suffering any bad trips and having an enjoyable time. Well this year on 4/20 me and my friends decided to make some brownies and we did and I ate a shitload and got shitfaced off them and eventually during that night we were suppose to go see the Wailers and I was meeting my girlfriend outside the concert hall and I was by myself. At this point is where things started to go bad, I began to trip hard, like when I looked at strangers for a second they looked like people I knew, which isn't really that bad. But then I got sharp shooting pains that were in my teeth and seemed like the pain traveled up my face and sometimes feels like it is in my brain, and now this continues to happens often now when I smoke. This pain only happens while high off of marijuana, never when sober and I have no idea what could be the cause. After that, I just went back to my room with my girlfriend and we relaxed and everything was chill again.

I smoke more recently and everything is nice and chill and then all of a sudden I become paranoid or panicked and my teeth get this pain and I become very scared and paranoid. Now I have never had bad trips with pot until I made those brownies. I can feel my heart racing and whatnot. I am looking for advice on what to do. I really loved smoking pot and would help me relax, fall asleep, just made everything enjoyable, but now it just makes me panicked and paranoid.

I really appreciate and thank every person that takes the time to read this and even more thanks to the people who post and attempt to help me. I miss the days when I could just chill and relax and get high without any problems.

Green Ganja · #2 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 06:59 AM

the ganja you got from the brownies . did you get the same ganja from the same dealer before or is this a new dealer ? cause it could be bad stuff . but problly not. and does this happen to everyone or just you ?

next time just dont think about the pains like dont even think it ever happened . try some mind over matter stuff. like dont even think about the pains before you smoke or during or after. keep a postive mind ...

Green Ganja- May you hit til you ganja hits you

smokeupmarley · #3 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:02 AM

dont take this the wrong way dude, but your doin it to yourself. cuz now everytime you smoke you know that pain is coming. this is really hard to fix cuz how do you try to not think about something? it has to be psychological cuz your mouth would hurt when you werent high also. i dont know how to fix it. get drunk and smoke maybe? im really sry that this is happening to you bro. that really sux. i say go have fun and dont even think about it. take a tb. idk.

when i was fouteen i had chocolate chip cookies with ganja and got really sick to the point of dry heaves. and now i cant eat chocolate chip cookies, which really blows cuz i love em'. but your prob is much worse. try seeing your doc or sumthing.

anyway i hope i helped, peace...

phenomenaltrust · #4 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:03 AM

Nope, it's always different stuff. It usually only happens in situations where I do not feel most comfortable. Like once in my dorm room when there were some kids there that I did not know so well, another time when I was in my room by myself, and most recently last week with some friends of mine on his back porch. We were smoking a joint and taking bong rips and everything was fine until his neighbor who is a little girl started jumping on the trampoline next door, it made me bug out. I never think about having a bad trip when I smoke, it just kind of happens, I think it might be panic attacks. But other times when I am at my friend's house just chilling on the couch and stuff everything is fine, when I am with my girlfriend, everything is fine. It's just weird and I wish it wasn't like that. I also get completely ripped out of my mind at the same time, and I was thinking next time I would try smoking less, cut myself off. Just take enough to get myself a nice buzz.

Because · #5 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:17 AM

You could go get a medication prescribed for it.

JackBeNimble · #6 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:23 AM

Yeah, they're panic attacks. You have to convince yourself you're not in danger. The more times you overcome it the easier it'll get to control and then it'll eventually go away.

1 Toke over · #7 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:29 AM

Something happened like this to me a few years ago. I was sitting on my steps waiting for a ride right after roasting a bowl of dank. All the sudden i saw this little white car thing in my parepheral vision like going back and forth over and over and then i noticed my heart going faster than normal and the more i thought about it the more annoying it got and then all the sudden it felt like it popped and warm shit started oozing down my chest, but at the same time it didnt hurt. Keep in my whenever i look up and think about teh little toy car it comes back into vision.
So yea after that sometimes Id think about it while high or id feel warm water on my hands id feel that wierdass oozing feeling. I dont get it anymore because i know it was a hallucination and Ive forgotten what it felt like so I dont feel it anymore, LOL.

BioSpiN · #8 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by smokeupmarley

try seeing your doc or sumthing.

(I shortened the post) Sorry, but that just made me laugh really hard.
you: "doc, I can't smoke like i used to! what should i do?"
doctor: "move onto heroin..."

All kidding aside, that IS quite a dilemma. I think you're having a panic attack because you're thinking too much about having one. Perhaps if you got really drunk first, then started toking, maybe the fear would be gone.

hashyboy · #9 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 07:53 AM

from a very well respected ganja connsisseur , "high levels of thc (what we find more in sativas) tend to elevate the heart rate and brain wave rhythms, this can be interpreted by the brain as a threat, thus inducing panic attacks"

your response is normal, however there is a certain control you can have over your highs. a kush strain or blueberry will probably be good for your symptoms, because they counteract the thc elevated blood pressure. other than that you have to be in control over your ganj.

weed is a mild drug compared to all others, you need to learn to control it.

GoliathToker79 · #10 (**permalink**) 07-25-2007, 08:04 AM

yea I been there, when i started i didnt have these troubles, i would go to most shadiest places and not even think anything of it, but after learning bout the harsh laws, and a few buddies on probation which is torture just as friend to go through, it makes me a lil more parnoid then i used to be, but i have gotten over that recently..pennsylvannia / new jersey suck balls and are probaly one of the most corupt governments and the least open minded. As for tooth pain, i'd see my dentist bout that shit.

sickblitz · #11 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 01:28 AM

holy shit the first poster i have the same shit goin on as you its fuckin crazy i have all that same shit happen to me now it fuckin sucks

zentrxtr · #12 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smokeupmarley

when i was fouteen i had chocolate chip cookies with ganja and got really sick to the point of dry heaves. and now i cant eat chocolate chip cookies, which really blows cuz i love em'...

omg, same thing with honey for "honey pots" we used to make... i'm so glad i can eat honey again!

but anyway, i guess i figured it was just something that everyone might go through at least once, but i only say that because toking has gone through a bunch of stages in my own life, and i remember that one, it was a long time ago though... i quit for a (little) while

Hank Scorpio · #13 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JackBeNimble

Yeah, they're panic attacks. You have to convince yourself you're not in danger. The more times you overcome it the easier it'll get to control and then it'll eventually go away.

ya man I was like that too, but since I started smoking all the time i don't get parinoid. i told my family i smoke weed a few times a week, which is a lie but they still flipped on me. I talked to them and told them how safe it is and how its not a gateway drug and how cigs are worse and weed doesnt kill people.

the reason why you think people are your friends is because weed is like that, your friends with everyone when your high. well i am lol.

i was so high when i told them too. it felt good doing it because now I don't need to hide it. I can't grow in the garage anymore, so im gonna move out in a month. Tomorrow im going to get a job. $600 won't last me more than a month, plus im saving money to move out.

gdp · #14 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 02:15 PM

Sorry, didn't read the entire thread, but eating marijuana can produce much different and often my stronger effects than smoking it. It's metabolized as a different chemical (THC-Delta11) and is a different experience. I to have "tripped" after eating so much weed (like 7g) and it was not the most enjoyable experience (I'll stick to 'cid for that). Anyway, stick to smoking it if you don't care for the effects of eating it.

TheHashanator · #15 (**permalink**) 07-26-2007, 03:37 PM

I am a sufferer of panic attacks also, but you can control them. I have learned to cope with them. Just picture it like this, in life you are driving a bus, and theres always someone in the back of the bus to give you trouble. The guy in the back is a panic attack, and when he comes to the front to give you trouble you just have to realize you are in charge and flow with it and he will eventually give up and go back to the back of the bus.

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#1 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 06:48 AM
phenomenaltrust Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21	Bad Trips I would like to talk to you guys about a problem I have been having for the past couple of months. I am in no way anti-marijuana or anything like that, just getting it out there now just in case some people don't understand where I am coming from. I have been smoking for since about 8th grade, and I am now going to be a sophomore in college. Last semester I smoked almost everyday consistently without suffering any bad trips and having an enjoyable time. Well this year on 4/20 me and my friends decided to make some brownies and we did and I ate a shitload and got shitfaced off them and eventually during that night we were suppose to go see the Wailers and I was meeting my girlfriend outside the concert hall and I was by myself. At this point is where things started to go bad, I began to trip hard, like when I looked at strangers for a second they looked like people I knew, which isn't really that bad. But then I got sharp shooting pains that were in my teeth and seemed like the pain traveled up my face and sometimes feels like it is in my brain, and now this continues to happens often now when I smoke. This pain only happens while high off of marijuana, never when sober and I have no idea what could be the cause. After that, I just went back to my room with my girlfriend and we relaxed and everything was chill again. I smoke more recently and everything is nice and chill and then all of a sudden I become paranoid or panicked and my teeth get this pain and I become very scared and paranoid. Now I have never had bad trips with pot until I made those brownies. I can feel my heart racing and whatnot. I am looking for advice on what to do. I really loved smoking pot and would help me relax, fall asleep, just made everything enjoyable, but now it just makes me panicked and paranoid. I really appreciate and thank every person that takes the time to read this and even more thanks to the people who post and attempt to help me. I miss the days when I could just chill and relax and get high without any problems.

#2 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 06:59 AM
Green Ganja King of the Bong Force Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In sprit of every session in the world Posts: 1,109	the ganja you got from the brownies . did you get the same ganja from the same dealer before or is this a new dealer ? cause it could be bad stuff . but problly not. and does this happen to everyone or just you ? next time just dont think about the pains like dont even think it ever happened . try some mind over matter stuff. like dont even think about the pains before you smoke or during or after. keep a postive mind ... Green Ganja- May you hit til you ganja hits you __________________ Thank you adamti91 for making this sig.

#3 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 07:02 AM
smokeupmarley Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 98	dont take this the wrong way dude, but your doin it to yourself. cuz now everytime you smoke you know that pain is coming. this is really hard to fix cuz how do you try to not think about something? it has to be psychological cuz your mouth would hurt when you werent high also. i dont know how to fix it. get drunk and smoke maybe? im really sry that this is happening to you bro. that really sux. i say go have fun and dont even think about it. take a tb. idk. when i was fouteen i had chocolate chip cookies with ganja and got really sick to the point of dry heaves. and now i cant eat chocolate chip cookies, which really blows cuz i love em'. but your prob is much worse. try seeing your doc or sumthing. anyway i hope i helped, peace... __________________ heaven...

#4 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 07:03 AM
phenomenaltrust Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 21	Nope, it's always different stuff. It usually only happens in situations where I do not feel most comfortable. Like once in my dorm room when there were some kids there that I did not know so well, another time when I was in my room by myself, and most recently last week with some friends of mine on his back porch. We were smoking a joint and taking bong rips and everything was fine until his neighbor who is a little girl started jumping on the trampoline next door, it made me bug out. I never think about having a bad trip when I smoke, it just kind of happens, I think it might be panic attacks. But other times when I am at my friend's house just chilling on the couch and stuff everything is fine, when I am with my girlfriend, everything is fine. It's just weird and I wish it wasn't like that. I also get completely ripped out of my mind at the same time, and I was thinking next time I would try smoking less, cut myself off. Just take enough to get myself a nice buzz.

#5 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 07:17 AM
Because Bali Hai Kings Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 148	You could go get a medication prescribed for it. __________________

#6 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 07:23 AM
JackBeNimble Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: California Posts: 33	Yeah, they're panic attacks. You have to convince yourself you're not in danger. The more times you overcome it the easier it'll get to control and then it'll eventually go away.

#7 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 07:29 AM
1 Toke over Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102	Something happened like this to me a few years ago. I was sitting on my steps waiting for a ride right after roasting a bowl of dank. All the sudden i saw this little white car thing in my parepheral vision like going back and forth over and over and then i noticed my heart going faster than normal and the more i thought about it the more annoying it got and then all the sudden it felt like it popped and warm shit started oozing down my chest, but at the same time it didnt hurt. Keep in my whenever i look up and think about teh little toy car it comes back into vision. So yea after that sometimes Id think about it while high or id feel warm water on my hands id feel that wierdass oozing feeling. I dont get it anymore because i know it was a hallucination and Ive forgotten what it felt like so I dont feel it anymore, LOL.

#9 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 07:53 AM
hashyboy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: so cal Posts: 215	from a very well respected ganja connsisseur , "high levels of thc (what we find more in sativas) tend to elevate the heart rate and brain wave rhythms, this can be interpreted by the brain as a threat, thus inducing panic attacks" your response is normal, however there is a certain control you can have over your highs. a kush strain or blueberry will probably be good for your symptoms, because they counteract the thc elevated blood pressure. other than that you have to be in control over your ganj. weed is a mild drug compared to all others, you need to learn to control it.

#10 (permalink) 07-25-2007, 08:04 AM
GoliathToker79 Goliath Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Some Suburb near Philly Posts: 1,254	lol true to that yea I been there, when i started i didnt have these troubles, i would go to most shadiest places and not even think anything of it, but after learning bout the harsh laws, and a few buddies on probation which is torture just as friend to go through, it makes me a lil more parnoid then i used to be, but i have gotten over that recently..pennsylvannia / new jersey suck balls and are probaly one of the most corupt governments and the least open minded. As for tooth pain, i'd see my dentist bout that shit. __________________ Thats the real truth, right there toke on.

#11 (permalink) 07-26-2007, 01:28 AM
sickblitz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1	holy shit the first poster i have the same shit goin on as you its fuckin crazy i have all that same shit happen to me now it fuckin sucks

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#14 (permalink) 07-26-2007, 02:15 PM
gdp Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 33	Sorry, didn't read the entire thread, but eating marijuana can produce much different and often my stronger effects than smoking it. It's metabolized as a different chemical (THC-Delta11) and is a different experience. I to have "tripped" after eating so much weed (like 7g) and it was not the most enjoyable experience (I'll stick to 'cid for that). Anyway, stick to smoking it if you don't care for the effects of eating it.

#15 (permalink) 07-26-2007, 03:37 PM
TheHashanator Hey MAN, dont spray that Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: On the top of Mt. Fuji Posts: 170	I am a sufferer of panic attacks also, but you can control them. I have learned to cope with them. Just picture it like this, in life you are driving a bus, and theres always someone in the back of the bus to give you trouble. The guy in the back is a panic attack, and when he comes to the front to give you trouble you just have to realize you are in charge and flow with it and he will eventually give up and go back to the back of the bus.