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Old 04-04-2007, 04:49 AM
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Why do they spend so much money targetting cannabis? Aren't cigarrettes and alcohol the first "drugs" people try? But i guess they pay the politicians so....

Please don't waste our taxes on a slew campaign against a plant that can help not only sick people, but our economy as well.
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“I was given my rst joint in the playground of my school. I’m a heroin addict now, and I’ve just nished my eighth treatment for drug addiction.”
— Christian, 23 years old

Uhmm... LOL
LMFAO. is this dude tryna blame it on that joint he smoked?? haha, he has other problems if hes been through 8 treatments.
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:51 AM
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:51 AM
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if you consider marijuana a gateway drug you'd have to consider cigarettes and alcohol a gateway drug too, both of those people usually try before marijuana. you cannot blame a substance for a person's choices, it is strictly the will of the person. everything anti marijuana comes from people totally ignorant to it. get real

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Old 04-04-2007, 04:52 AM
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Why do they spend so much money targetting cannabis? Aren't cigarrettes and alcohol the first "drugs" people try? But i guess they pay the politicians so....

Please don't waste our taxes on a slew campaign against a plant that can help not only sick people, but our economy as well.
Because people are stupid. They are close-minded morons that cant accept the fact that something that they grew up thinking was one of the worst things on earth, is in fact, probably the best thing on this earth.
Also, people cant stand to admit their short-comings so they look to other things to blame.
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:54 AM
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I believe it is rather shallow to look at mj. as a gateway to harder drugs. mj can be abused as any drug, or used in a responsible manner for recreation. for a younger person to want to experiment with anything self destructive, I think is a warning sign for parents or others concerned that there is a problem being dealt with incorrectly. of course, mj or any other drug isn't going to solve this problem, which will lead to other possible solutions. saying mj. lead little Billy to use of heroin is just a way of denying responsiblity. parents don't want to admit they missed warning signs, and weren't able to help their children. maybe the parents weren't even able to help, but there is still a need to blame something for Billy's use of heroin.
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The fact is, I don't think there is one single site about cannabis on the internet without some bias. A lot of sites feature information from government studies, which are often doctored, altered or edited to support current policies ( http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in564873.shtml ). Others are conducted by NORML or other pro-pot groups which also will not publish that which contradicts their goals.

I would love to see some completely independant, extensive research studies done in some country where cannabis is legal so I can really learn the truth about the long-term effects (if any) of the consumption of THC.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:56 AM
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“The teacher in the school I went to would smoke three or four joints a day. He got lots of students to start smoking joints, me included. His dealer then pushed me to start using heroin, which I did without resisting. By that time, it was as if my conscience was already dead.”
— Veronique, 19
Noone can push you to do herione. This website is fucking retarded. I don't even deal with dealers my sister does, I get it from her. If a person thats dumb enough to inject herione into their bloodstream because someone told them to.... well the age old saying, if someone told you to jump off a bridge would you?

“I was given my rst joint in the playground of my school. I’m a heroin addict now, and I’ve just nished my eighth treatment for drug addiction.”
— Christian, 23 years old

I ate at McDonalds 2 years ago, now I'm a herione addict. It's clearly McDonald's fault.

The reason kids start to smoke pot in highschool, is because they are smart enough to know that the scare tactics D.A.R.E and other propaganda anti-drug websites hand out are bullshit.

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Sixty percent of teenagers in drug treatment programs are there because of marijuana. According to a National Household Survey on Drug Abuse, kids who frequently use marijuana are almost four times more likely to act violently or damage property. They are five times more likely to steal than those who do not use the drug.
These stastics are bullshit because

-It's based on a correlation of statistics. Anyone whos stolen has probably smoked weed. Steeling is gross, a dirty crime. Marijuana is harmless in occasional use.

-Have you ever been stoned? IT makes you LESS violent, and who the hell wants to get violent and abuse property, just increases chances of getting busted.

-I consider my self one of the best people I know. I'm a good person. So I smoke pot on occasion, whoop dee doo.

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Marijuana itself does not lead the person to the other drugs: people take drugs to get rid of unwanted situations or feelings. The drug (marijuana) masks the problem for a time (while the user is high). When the "high" fades, the problem, unwanted condition or situation returns more intensely than before. The user may then turn to stronger drugs since marijuana no longer “works.”
-If someones smoking marijuana to escape a problem. It isn't marijuana thats the problem. It is the PERSON. Of course the person is going to go on to harder drugs if their life is fucked up enough to use a drug to escape it.

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Long-term use can cause psychotic symptoms.
The way thats worded it makes it sound like you go crazy from smoking pot.

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Marijuana is often more potent today than it used to be. Growing techniques and selective use of seeds have produced a more powerful drug. Correspondingly, there has been a sharp increase in the number of marijuana-related emergency room visits by young pot smokers.
So what? People in the sixties had hash, which is way more potent than 99% of marijuana. Quote a source for the sharp increase in emergency room visits. I'd like to see it.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:57 AM
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The fact is, I don't think there is one single site about cannabis on the internet without some bias. A lot of sites feature information from government studies, which are often doctored, altered or edited to support current policies ( http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in564873.shtml ). Others are conducted by NORML or other pro-pot groups which also will not publish that which contradicts their goals.

I would love to see some completely independant, extensive research studies done in some country where cannabis is legal so I can really learn the truth about the long-term effects (if any) of the consumption of THC.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:00 AM
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“At 13 years of age I took my first drink and soon after was introduced to marijuana. Then LSD quickly fell into my hands and I became addicted, eating it like candy."
LSD is scientificly proved to be non-addictive, what the fuck is wrong with your website?
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:04 AM
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Alright, I guess, there's something, but I'd like more. Do they do their own studies or just feature those of others? Seems like this site gives more diverse prespectives but still relies on outside research.

However you look at things, the legalization of cannabis would probably do more good than bad. Currently, the cannabis trade requires a black market, just like alcohol during prohibition. This leads to violence and puts a lot of money in the wrong hands. Since studies have definitively shown that alcohol is more harmful to the human body than marijuana, there is no reason it shouldn't be legalized. We could keep prisons free and vacant for people who should be there, not just someone who gets pulled over with some weed in his car. This would also allow for the government to control or regulate the quality of the cannabis to eliminate possible health concerns deriving from cut, spiked or otherwise bad weed. Not to mention information campiagns promoting vaporization use can become more widespread, and eliminate the possibility of cancer.

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Old 04-04-2007, 05:14 AM
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So what? People in the sixties had hash, which is way more potent than 99% of marijuana. Quote a source for the sharp increase in emergency room visits. I'd like to see it.
They get this bullshit stat from more and more ignorant kids trying weed at too young an age, and they get high and start thinking they're dying so they run to the emergency room.

Is there anything wrong with them? Of course not, they're discharged 15 minutes after they enter. But it still counts as a "marijuana related ER visit".

I saw an article saying "Teenagers rushed to emergency room after consuming marijuana brownies". These kids had never been high before, freaked out, and told their parents, at which time they were taken to the hospital. There was absolutely no medical danger at any time, and they were laughed out of the hospital. To someone reading the headline, it looked like kids had almost died after using a dangerous narcotic drug, which is absolutely false.
 
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cannabis is not a gateway drug, the true gateway drugs are alcohol and nicotine.
think about it, i'd say like 95% of people who smoke weed had tried drinking or smoking before they toked.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:22 AM
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i was making shinanagins one time with my fellow companions. we have a posse, we gather for scotch and horse racing occasionally. this one shady looking fellow approaches from over yonder. he offers us some product and goods for purchase. me and my fellow posse members consult each other. we decide it best if we had inquired him on what kind of product this humble merchant is selling. he opened his hand, and, i was shocked! in it was a crack rock! I said "what the fuck am I supposed to do with this, eat it? Keep that shit!" And the lady said, "Beat it, he told you your money gone, so get your ass on!" I just did it cause I wasn't alone.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:29 AM
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This popped up in the 'related thread' section and I thought I'd share it for those who are interested: http://forum.grasscity.com/general-m...marijuana.html
 
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