The Purple Haze Debate

Skr8Fiah · #1 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 01:19 AM

Recently I got some stuff from my friend who said it was "purple haze." The buds were slightly purple and it was dank as hell, whether or not it was really "purple haze" I do not know -- I mean when you buy "trainwreck" or "NYC diesel" or whatever from your dealer you really have no way of verifying what strain it actually is, but everyone will agree that trainwreck, diesel, etc all EXIST.

See when I told my friends I got purple haze they were all like "its not real purple haze, real purple haze doesn't exist" and "it may be purple and it may be haze, but its not the Original 1972 Purple Haze" like it was some kind of regulated product or something. When I asked them to explain why they think it doesn't exist they are just like "well, there's like no way it can" and don't really have anything to back it up. I've seen people on GC say the same thing about purple haze not existing.

What I want to know is WHY people say it doesn't exist? I mean there definately is haze, and you can definately have haze that is purple in color (either through growing techniques or strain). Why is this haze with the purple color not allowed to be called "purple haze"? Since when do people know/care about the ORIGINAL strain or whatever? I mean maybe the ORIGINAL kush has died out, but you can still get kush and you can call it kush and people aren't like OMG YOU ARE RETARDED LOLOLOL.

Anyways I guess I'm just trying to open the topic up for debate. Why do people say purple haze doesn't exist? Please back up your opinion with sources/real evidence no "OMG PURPLE HAZE IS FAKE ROFL" posts.

Thanks.

BCRazzle · #2 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 01:25 AM

DAMN! i have no input on this, but nice post you bring up a valid arguement

tshen420 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 01:38 AM

yea im interested too. anyone shed some light?

mrblonde77 · #4 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 01:41 AM

Haha I didn't even know peopel denied its existence...wtf?

mooglemage · #5 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 02:15 AM

i think it has something to do with the fact that today there is considerable effort to maintain strain lineage, and when someone buys seeds for a certain haze, the genetics of those seeds are more or less directly carried through from the original plants companies named.
the only real argument ive heared is that "purple haze" was not perseved in anyway, and endlessly crossbread and such, so that today there is no plant that has the genetics handed down from the old mother plants.
from what ive seen, for example, there is no "purple haze" on menus in amsterdam, because growers simply dont have seeds from that "bloodline"

i dont know how much this is true, and certainly its hard to really tell how thoroughly lineages are maintianed today, because there is really no large-scale commercial grower that needs to keep a product mantained for a large market.
as i always say though, it doesnt really MATTER what we call it.
im sure even many of the medical plants sold as certain strains or whatever arent as consistant as people believe, because there is no real regulation for it. (think of the day when marijuana companies are forced to maintain lineage and product quality the way pharmeceutical companies have to.)
either way, you probably dont have REAL purple haze, even if it does exist. but if its dank and tasty, smoke it and call it whatever the hell you want.

p.s. one day if i decide to grow, ill probably use seeds from a real seedbank, and refer to the plants by the strain on the label, but who really cares what its called?

xchuyx122 · #6 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 02:19 AM

if its good pot, i dont care if its purple haze x xx x (whatever the hell its called)

JUST SMOKE IT

BongReviews · #7 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 02:37 AM

i've heard alot about this, but i've seen stuff that smoked like pyramid or uptown haze and was purple so i dunno, maybe not the original, but it was haze and it was purple.

sullyk · #8 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 02:41 AM

I have no real input except that I have also heard that "Purple Haze" no longer excists

LegitBaller · #9 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 02:48 AM

heres the legit answer, the real purple haze, a very potent strain most popular during the 60s or 70s, is extinct. u can never get 100 percent purple haze, however, there are clones, and im sure some seeeds are true purple haze x ( whatever )
that being said, in todays world if someone says they have purple haze, it could BE a clone/clippin/seed of the original purp haze, but most likely, its not even that....
100 percent purp haze = extinct
clones/ hybrids = 95 percent extinct... so if u do get lucky and somehow find a legit clone ( most likely from a club or grower from the 70's ) then salud for findin that.

all that being said, u can have a normal strand of haze, turn purple....which is then labeled purple haze, but is in no way even closely remote to the original in terms of thc %, cnb ratio, smell, etc

Skr8Fiah · #10 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 03:12 AM

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heres the legit answer, the real purple haze, a very potent strain most popular during the 60s or 70s, is extinct. u can never get 100 percent purple haze, however, there are clones, and im sure some seeeds are true purple haze x ( whatever )
that being said, in todays world if someone says they have purple haze, it could BE a clone/clippin/seed of the original purp haze, but most likely, its not even that....
100 percent purp haze = extinct
clones/ hybrids = 95 percent extinct... so if u do get lucky and somehow find a legit clone ( most likely from a club or grower from the 70's ) then salud for findin that.

all that being said, u can have a normal strand of haze, turn purple....which is then labeled purple haze, but is in no way even closely remote to the original in terms of thc %, cnb ratio, smell, etc

Thanks for good reply. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, but this is the type of stuff I've heard from other people like "it was a super powerful strain from the 60s" and its extinct and you can never get it etc etc. What is your source for this information? I'm pretty good with computers and for the life of me I can't seem to find a reliable source that says one way or the other.

Besides that point, I also have the question of why people always have to be like "OMG PURPLE HAZE DOESN'T EXIST." If it's purple and it's haze, it's purple haze. DIfferent seedbanks may have "blueberry" seeds that aren't genetically identical, but when you grow it the product is still blueberry. It doesn't have to be directly descended from the first plant ever called blueberry to be blueberry you know what I mean?

LegitBaller · #11 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 04:08 AM

shit dude, my sources are like erowid and lots of other drug/seed sites....i learned that over the yrs so i really dont have an exact source for ya, its more like a compilation of everyhting i have seen n learned over the yrs
however like some1 said b4, think of it as a bloodline...
haze thats purple is not 'purple haze'....yes the name is the same but go beyond that....its like 2 people with the same name, and look identical....everythun on the outside may appear to be the same, but genitacally, there not

twave33 · #12 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 04:12 AM

I really could care less about a strain name so it wouldn't matter to me but I am sure its around somewhere!

Norvy1 · #13 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 04:28 AM

I have always been a believer of the story that says the real purple haze is extinct becuase it sounds legit. Most people will tell me they have "purple haze" and I kindly tell them it is probably not that but whatever, and then they fight with me about how it really is purple haze and blah...Ibut have come to this conclusion.. that a certain few old-timers from the 60's-70's has the origional strain and continues to breed it and distribute it to another certain few and so on. But most likely the "purple haze" your getting from a sick connect is just some dank that may be purple. I have also heard that any bud can get purple from improper temps during growing? Any experienced growers have the real answers?

LegitBaller · #14 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 04:31 AM

thats basically it, if u no a legit grower who grew it in the 70s and still breeeds it today, other than that, you pretty much shitta outta luck as for testin any tru purple haze

ZerO Stay Tokin · #15 (**permalink**) 11-06-2006, 04:32 AM

dude, the strain "purple haze" has been extinct for years, but the strain "haze" that is purple, is because the cold weather turned the haze purple.

or atleast thats what i've been told my alot of home growers.

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#1 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 01:19 AM
Skr8Fiah Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 366	The Purple Haze Debate Recently I got some stuff from my friend who said it was "purple haze." The buds were slightly purple and it was dank as hell, whether or not it was really "purple haze" I do not know -- I mean when you buy "trainwreck" or "NYC diesel" or whatever from your dealer you really have no way of verifying what strain it actually is, but everyone will agree that trainwreck, diesel, etc all EXIST. See when I told my friends I got purple haze they were all like "its not real purple haze, real purple haze doesn't exist" and "it may be purple and it may be haze, but its not the Original 1972 Purple Haze" like it was some kind of regulated product or something. When I asked them to explain why they think it doesn't exist they are just like "well, there's like no way it can" and don't really have anything to back it up. I've seen people on GC say the same thing about purple haze not existing. What I want to know is WHY people say it doesn't exist? I mean there definately is haze, and you can definately have haze that is purple in color (either through growing techniques or strain). Why is this haze with the purple color not allowed to be called "purple haze"? Since when do people know/care about the ORIGINAL strain or whatever? I mean maybe the ORIGINAL kush has died out, but you can still get kush and you can call it kush and people aren't like OMG YOU ARE RETARDED LOLOLOL. Anyways I guess I'm just trying to open the topic up for debate. Why do people say purple haze doesn't exist? Please back up your opinion with sources/real evidence no "OMG PURPLE HAZE IS FAKE ROFL" posts. Thanks.

#2 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 01:25 AM
BCRazzle Registered Stoner Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 92	DAMN! i have no input on this, but nice post you bring up a valid arguement __________________ "Victor proceeded to roll the biggest bomber anybody ever saw. He rolled (using brown bag paper) what amounted to a tremendous Corona cigar of tea. It was huge. Dean stared at it, popeyed. Victor lit it and casually passed it around. To drag on this thing was like leaning over a chimney and inhaling. It blew into your throat in one great blast of heat. We held our breaths and all let out simultaneously. Instantly, we were all high."

#3 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 01:38 AM
tshen420 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 45	yea im interested too. anyone shed some light?

#4 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 01:41 AM
mrblonde77 use_linux Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,348	Haha I didn't even know peopel denied its existence...wtf?

#5 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 02:15 AM
mooglemage Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 396	i think it has something to do with the fact that today there is considerable effort to maintain strain lineage, and when someone buys seeds for a certain haze, the genetics of those seeds are more or less directly carried through from the original plants companies named. the only real argument ive heared is that "purple haze" was not perseved in anyway, and endlessly crossbread and such, so that today there is no plant that has the genetics handed down from the old mother plants. from what ive seen, for example, there is no "purple haze" on menus in amsterdam, because growers simply dont have seeds from that "bloodline" i dont know how much this is true, and certainly its hard to really tell how thoroughly lineages are maintianed today, because there is really no large-scale commercial grower that needs to keep a product mantained for a large market. as i always say though, it doesnt really MATTER what we call it. im sure even many of the medical plants sold as certain strains or whatever arent as consistant as people believe, because there is no real regulation for it. (think of the day when marijuana companies are forced to maintain lineage and product quality the way pharmeceutical companies have to.) either way, you probably dont have REAL purple haze, even if it does exist. but if its dank and tasty, smoke it and call it whatever the hell you want. p.s. one day if i decide to grow, ill probably use seeds from a real seedbank, and refer to the plants by the strain on the label, but who really cares what its called?

#6 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 02:19 AM
xchuyx122 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: 40 ounces from freedom Posts: 525	if its good pot, i dont care if its purple haze x xx x (whatever the hell its called) JUST SMOKE IT

#7 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 02:37 AM
BongReviews Har Har Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 666	i've heard alot about this, but i've seen stuff that smoked like pyramid or uptown haze and was purple so i dunno, maybe not the original, but it was haze and it was purple.

#8 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 02:41 AM
sullyk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 166	I have no real input except that I have also heard that "Purple Haze" no longer excists

#9 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 02:48 AM
LegitBaller major w/out a major deal Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: chi 2 the bay Posts: 5,483	heres the legit answer, the real purple haze, a very potent strain most popular during the 60s or 70s, is extinct. u can never get 100 percent purple haze, however, there are clones, and im sure some seeeds are true purple haze x ( whatever ) that being said, in todays world if someone says they have purple haze, it could BE a clone/clippin/seed of the original purp haze, but most likely, its not even that.... 100 percent purp haze = extinct clones/ hybrids = 95 percent extinct... so if u do get lucky and somehow find a legit clone ( most likely from a club or grower from the 70's ) then salud for findin that. all that being said, u can have a normal strand of haze, turn purple....which is then labeled purple haze, but is in no way even closely remote to the original in terms of thc %, cnb ratio, smell, etc __________________ "You know, we always called each other good fellas. Like you said to somebody, You're gonna like this guy. He's all right. He's a good fella. He's one of us. You understand? We were good fellas. Wiseguys."

#11 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 04:08 AM
LegitBaller major w/out a major deal Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: chi 2 the bay Posts: 5,483	shit dude, my sources are like erowid and lots of other drug/seed sites....i learned that over the yrs so i really dont have an exact source for ya, its more like a compilation of everyhting i have seen n learned over the yrs however like some1 said b4, think of it as a bloodline... haze thats purple is not 'purple haze'....yes the name is the same but go beyond that....its like 2 people with the same name, and look identical....everythun on the outside may appear to be the same, but genitacally, there not __________________ "You know, we always called each other good fellas. Like you said to somebody, You're gonna like this guy. He's all right. He's a good fella. He's one of us. You understand? We were good fellas. Wiseguys."

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#12 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 04:12 AM
twave33 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: FL Posts: 1,647	I really could care less about a strain name so it wouldn't matter to me but I am sure its around somewhere! __________________

#13 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 04:28 AM
Norvy1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: iowa Posts: 502	I have always been a believer of the story that says the real purple haze is extinct becuase it sounds legit. Most people will tell me they have "purple haze" and I kindly tell them it is probably not that but whatever, and then they fight with me about how it really is purple haze and blah...Ibut have come to this conclusion.. that a certain few old-timers from the 60's-70's has the origional strain and continues to breed it and distribute it to another certain few and so on. But most likely the "purple haze" your getting from a sick connect is just some dank that may be purple. I have also heard that any bud can get purple from improper temps during growing? Any experienced growers have the real answers? __________________

#14 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 04:31 AM
LegitBaller major w/out a major deal Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: chi 2 the bay Posts: 5,483	thats basically it, if u no a legit grower who grew it in the 70s and still breeeds it today, other than that, you pretty much shitta outta luck as for testin any tru purple haze __________________ "You know, we always called each other good fellas. Like you said to somebody, You're gonna like this guy. He's all right. He's a good fella. He's one of us. You understand? We were good fellas. Wiseguys."

#15 (permalink) 11-06-2006, 04:32 AM
ZerO Stay Tokin ALL ABOUT GETTIN PAID. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: N Y C Posts: 3,867	dude, the strain "purple haze" has been extinct for years, but the strain "haze" that is purple, is because the cold weather turned the haze purple. or atleast thats what i've been told my alot of home growers. __________________