A perplexed smoker who needs help

[emitch]

Okay, I've tried to figure this out before. When I first started smoking it was the best thing in the world. Every time I was high was the best time ever. Nothing could go wrong when I was high and everything was the best. It was like that for a while. I've been smoking for about 2 - 3 years now and my highs are totally different than what they used to be.

I don't get the happy, peaceful and content feeling I used to always get. Now I just become a stoned out jerk who doesn't even move or say anything. I don't know why I keep smoking. Maybe it's because deep down I have hope that my euphoric high will come back.

Is it just me or has this happened to anyone else? Does anyone know of a remedy? The sad thing is it seems like every drug does this to me now - even alcohol which always used to get me into an upbeat social mood. I don't know what went wrong with me. But it's getting me really down cause now when I chill with friends and we smoke together I feel like a fuckin jackass cause I don't say anythin. In other words it doesn't get me into a positive mood.

I don't think it's the type of bud either because I've smoked plenty of different kinds. Maybe they were all indica? All kinds of bud used to be good.

I just want to be able to enjoy smoking again. A smoker friend in need. If I don't figure this out I sadly may have to stop smoking which would be very sad.

Is it just me?

[syntax13]

Take a tolerance break.

[bayareabongman]

dude i know exactly what you need i used to do the same thing....you need to stop doing any alchohol and weed for like 2 weeks to a month, the longer the better it will be when you start back up again it will be just like your first time. u just gotts stay away for a little bit of time it really works.

[Pro.Pot.]

i get that when i smoke to much, but if i smoke like a lbunt or 2 i can go play basketball or hockey. i enjoy doing everything hi... but i dotn like doing things when i m TOO high. maybe just smoke a bong pack to ur head, u'll get that happy high again

[Shadowstalker]

i get the same feeling but i only smoke once a week usually so tolerance isnt the issue.

[emitch]

Yeah, I have tried going off of it for a like 2 weeks to a month. It didn't really help.

[emitch]

There's no like marijuana doctor I could talk to is there? Maybe in Jamaica...

Damn I am really down about this. Is my brain fucked up? Why can't this beautiful sacred herb work its wonders on me anymore??

[Einstoner]

Ok....so, i'll explain to you all i know about the body and tollerance to hopefully make it understandable. First off, when you smoke the awesome feeling you get is because of THC circulating through your body and later it is stored in your fat and slowly released as the body is cleansed..that is why you drink water or make yourself sweat when trying to pass a DT. Sometimes marijuana is thought to have a reverse tollerance because of the fact you get higher the more you do it. Everyone who eats sleeps and breathes has THC in their blood that their body has created and when in extreme situations your body will produce more THC to give your body a sense of numbness and is considered a natural pain killer. For, instance a victim of a car crash would have a high level of THC in their blood because the body created it to releive itself of the pain and not overload the brain with sensory messeges.

hopefully you are still with me.

Now once more and more marijuana enters the body it keeps stacking up in the fat cells and constantly raises the amount of euphoric feeling because you get to a point where there cannot be much more THC stored in the fat..... Now the coincidental thing about this THC storing is that it is your bodies way or stoppng you high and correcting its blod content to work better. As with any sickness the blood cells and antibodies in you will try to adjust your system to not have harder effects once the body has too much THC and will start to make a tollerance or immunity to these different chemicals....so your buzz may get better within the first month or two of you smoking but then afer the body will slowly build up anit-bodies t stop it from hitting you so hard. After you stop though the anti-bodies die out and your body will make less and less because it won't need them anymore. This is why people say it cures basic ilness, because your body build the anti-bodies and has them ready. once you havce quit and drained you body of all THC you will then need to smoke and refil your body again an will be all parts of stoned at the same time....this is why you should take a tollerance break......to drain and clean your body so you can once again load up on the THC and be trippin balls. that is part of why people don't get really fucked up the first time they smoke, because they don't have enough THC in the body and when the add what they smoked the body will relax itself but will be able to handle it because of your natural levels. hope that helps but its what i learned from researching on the net for a few days before i started smoking....

[emitch]

Originally Posted by Einstoner

Ok....so, i'll explain to you all i know about the body and tollerance to hopefully make it understandable. First off, when you smoke the awesome feeling you get is because of THC circulating through your body and later it is stored in your fat and slowly released as the body is cleansed..that is why you drink water or make yourself sweat when trying to pass a DT. Sometimes marijuana is thought to have a reverse tollerance because of the fact you get higher the more you do it. Everyone who eats sleeps and breathes has THC in their blood that their body has created and when in extreme situations your body will produce more THC to give your body a sense of numbness and is considered a natural pain killer. For, instance a victim of a car crash would have a high level of THC in their blood because the body created it to releive itself of the pain and not overload the brain with sensory messeges.

hopefully you are still with me.

Now once more and more marijuana enters the body it keeps stacking up in the fat cells and constantly raises the amount of euphoric feeling because you get to a point where there cannot be much more THC stored in the fat..... Now the coincidental thing about this THC storing is that it is your bodies way or stoppng you high and correcting its blod content to work better. As with any sickness the blood cells and antibodies in you will try to adjust your system to not have harder effects once the body has too much THC and will start to make a tollerance or immunity to these different chemicals....so your buzz may get better within the first month or two of you smoking but then afer the body will slowly build up anit-bodies t stop it from hitting you so hard. After you stop though the anti-bodies die out and your body will make less and less because it won't need them anymore. This is why people say it cures basic ilness, because your body build the anti-bodies and has them ready. once you havce quit and drained you body of all THC you will then need to smoke and refil your body again an will be all parts of stoned at the same time....this is why you should take a tollerance break......to drain and clean your body so you can once again load up on the THC and be trippin balls. that is part of why people don't get really fucked up the first time they smoke, because they don't have enough THC in the body and when the add what they smoked the body will relax itself but will be able to handle it because of your natural levels. hope that helps but its what i learned from researching on the net for a few days before i started smoking....

Yes, I've done quite a lot of research myself. But like I said I have taken tolerance breaks. I mean I've not smoked for weeks at a time. Maybe the high is a little different when I come back to it, but nothing compares to what it was when I first started smoking. I was hoping you would have a real remedy or something. Maybe I need to just quit for a few years or more. Do you think that might help or would it be just the same as not smoking for a few weeks?

[Einstoner]

well, like i said, the reason new smokers get so high is because the body has never induced such a level of THC and so i just freaks out on you.....and people say in a month its all out of your system, but in fact it is not but it is low enough to pass a DT because the FDA said even people exposed to high stress and physically demanding environments have a certain level of THC so they allow for you to have a little in your body and still pass....once the THC in your fat get to a lower level it slows dramatically in the filtration process because it no longer has as much to remove....in my educated oppinion if you were to quit for a few years and the body restored itself to a very low level (a natural level) you may get those good highs back but again it could take quite a long time to get to that place. i planned on doing a study on this once i enter med school this spring but until then i can only tell you what i read.

[Venomous Puffer]

Originally Posted by Einstoner

Ok....so, i'll explain to you all i know about the body and tollerance to hopefully make it understandable. First off, when you smoke the awesome feeling you get is because of THC circulating through your body and later it is stored in your fat and slowly released as the body is cleansed..that is why you drink water or make yourself sweat when trying to pass a DT. Sometimes marijuana is thought to have a reverse tollerance because of the fact you get higher the more you do it. Everyone who eats sleeps and breathes has THC in their blood that their body has created and when in extreme situations your body will produce more THC to give your body a sense of numbness and is considered a natural pain killer. For, instance a victim of a car crash would have a high level of THC in their blood because the body created it to releive itself of the pain and not overload the brain with sensory messeges.

no offense dude but alot of that info is wrong. first of all, yes THC is stored in your fat, so therefore drinking water does NOT help you pass a drug test because it is stored in your fat and is not water soluble. Second of all, your body does NOT create THC lol, your body creates a chemical called anandamide and THC mimics that chemical in order to bind with the cannabinoid receptors in the brain. And a car crash victim would not have a high concentration of THC in his brain unless he had just been blazin a bowl lol.

[emitch]

Well, any suggestions venemous puffer?

[Venomous Puffer]

tolerence break would be my main suggestion. other than that (since he said that that didnt help any) i would say your just sick of it. It has become a substance that your just constantly using every day and your bored. It no longer has the same joy as when you were a kid, blazin with your friends and just kinda hiding it from people and experimenting for the first time. It seems like all the excitement of the whole process is just gone for you. This isnt something you can fix by just taking a short break, in my opinion (i kno, sorry GC) you need to either stop smoking or stop for like a year cause this isnt gonna get better.

It sounds to me that your still getting high, but ur not happy when you do it. Same with alcohol. This is a sign to slow down or stop because ur just not having fun anymore. I hope it works out for you but like you said, why would u keep smoking if its not making you happy? dont just do it to do it, do it for a reason. good luck man

[J Dylan]

the way you feel when you're high has a lot to do with the way you feel before you get high.

getting high when you're down probably won't help you much.

one of the amazing things about marijuana is the extent to which your mindset and mood contribute to the type of high you feel.

if you say you've taken tolerance breaks and they haven't really helped, it makes me wonder if the problem is purely in your head.

maybe your attitude towards pot isn't the same as it was when you first started. maybe you go into smoking now expecting that same old stonified stone, and that's why you get it.

when you first started, i bet you felt a whole lot different toward marijuana then you do now.

i really don't know if anything i'm talking about could be a contributing factor to your problem... however, i smoke for months at a time without tolerance breaks, anywhere from 3-5 times a day, sometimes more.

although i admit that marijuana will never get me fucked like it did when i was just starting, i still maintain a very respectful and loving attitude toward the plant. and i still get pretty fucking high. i rarely get euphoric when alone. when i smoke alone i do more thinking and really become involved in the high. it's when i'm with people that the laughter and what not begins.

i mean, if before every time you smoke you wonder to yourself why what you're smoking isn't satisfying you, then you're probably not gonna be satisfied after you smoke either.

[HerbsINtheBurbs]

My thoughts? If you've tried tolerance breaks, then you have other options. One option is based on the possibility that you have developed some sort of mental block. To remedy this, with time, meditation could be utilized to re-center yourself on the effect of the ganja. Try a couple week break, and then when you return, do it alone, just concentrate and feed off the energy around you, you'll get that euphoria, just be joyous.